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RegalPotoo, in Neil deGrasse Tyson knows what he did.
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Actual paper if anyone is interested in reading: adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1993A%26A...275..630T

southsamurai, in Neil deGrasse Tyson knows what he did.
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Oh, yeah; he knew :)

computerscientistI, in poggers

I always thought like that:

Hmmm: 1 + 2 + 3 + … + 99 + 100

Kommutativgesetz be like: This equals:
100 +1 + 99 + 2 +98 + 3 . . . And this equals: 101+ 101+ 101+ . . .

How often do I need to do this? I use up 2 numbers for each 101. I have 100 numbers total. So that’s 50x101.

Now you can think about: What if it’s 1000 instead of 100? But it#s easy from here…

troyunrau, (edited )
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I’m a spatial-visual person, so when presented with this problem as a teenager, I instead solved it spatially. If you stack squares like.

█.
██.
███.

To the hundredth row, you get a shape that is a half filled square that is 100x100. Except the diagonal is fully filled in, so you need to add another 50.

So the answer was 0.5x100x100 + 0.5x100. Easy to visualize, easy to solve. 5050.

There’s a similar problem in sports – I was a teaching assistant for our rural school’s gym class so this one also popped up for me as a teenager. If you have 100 teams and each team needs to play each other team once… You fill in a similar grid, with the teams on both the x and y axis. The diagonal gets removed in this scenario because a team cannot play itself. So the answer is 0.5x100x100 - 0.5x100. 4950. Anyone who has ever tried to plan any sort of tournament can probably solve this intuitively, but 25 years ago I though I was the smartest gym class teaching assistant ever ;)

Asafum,

This is why I never succeeded at math. Like why does this shit work?? How can people just take a problem and be like, nah I’m going to just throw numbers all over the place and reassemble them in all sorts of ways and get an answer somehow…

I can’t just memorize arbitrary nonsense that “just is” I need to know how it works or it never sticks and all the math I’ve ever been taught was just “memorize this arbitrary nonsense and regurgitate a specific formula for a specific application that we’ve spent 0 time explaining other than telling you to memorize it. You want proofs and you can’t get proofs until advanced college courses” well guess I’ll just never understand mathematical manipulation then…

I feel like 50/50 school failed me and I failed at math.

Rediphile,

It’s not arbitrary. Really try to think about the problem at hand. The ‘why’ is quite apparent. Ask yourself why did they go with 99+1+98+2… in the first place? And why is that the same as 101+101…? What was the benefit of simplifying it to that? How did it save the student time?

You can deduce this yourself and literally no memorization is involved to figure this out. No formulas needed either.

rasensprenger,

Once you have the idea, seeing that it works if often easy. But coming up with ideas like that can be really hard, which is why gauss was the only one in his class who got it. There is no general method, you just have to think about stuff for a while, but you can get better with practice. And it feels really good when you prove something for yourself, even if it’s relatively straightforward. You can just try to prove some simple things yourself, if you want, the advanced college courses are just for proving really advanced stuff.

nova_ad_vitum,

The rules underpinning math are axioms in the end, but they’re not completely arbitrary, because if you change them in most cases it just fucks everything up.

The axioms that were chosen were chosen for good reason, and the rules they result in (such as summation and multiplication being commutative so 3x4=4x3 and 3+4=4+3) allow more complex rules to be created.

There’s a lot of philosophy of math at the core of all this , but it’s not really true that this is all arbitrary.

cucumber_sandwich,

But commutation is not an axiom, is it?

stolid_agnostic,

You were failed by people who didn’t help you learn intuitions and instead caused you to focus on memorization.

TserriednichThe4th,

Look up how to solve it by george polya

nova_ad_vitum,

The algorithm gets a little weird if you’re summing the numbers to an odd number, though since there will be a left over number you have to deal with . By calculating 2S it works exactly the same in either case.

Blue_Morpho, (edited ) in poggers

Is it required to wear a silly hat to be a genius mathematician? I’ve seen Euler and his hat. But I didn’t realize Gauss was in on it too.

doctorcrimson,

Legends say Sir Isaac Newton never found a hat to fit over the glorious wig.

Kanda,

A Wig is actually just a terribly silly hat

neveraskedforthis, (edited ) in Whatever I use 10

I get half of the joke, but completely lost on the second half, and title.

sag,

For explanation of Title: Actually most of the time I take g as 10 in numericals and give answer in approx.

FrankTheHealer, in Whatever I use 10

A pig without (3.14 AKA pi) = g

G is gravity which is 9.8 metres per second on earth

For anyone not sober wondering wtf this meant.

bane_killgrind,

I am not sober thank you

LordGimp, in poggers

… am I the only one who learned 1+100, 2+99… to make 101 times 50 pairs? Lmao feels like it’s much easier. 101 × 50 = 5050

nova_ad_vitum,

Sorry if this is stupid but how to deal with sums to odd numbers ? Won’t you have a number left over after pairing all the others?

0x0,

Nope, because what you’re doing is copying the entire sequence, reversing it, and pairing up each element left to right. There’s no way to have any leftovers because the original sequence and the new reversed sequence have the same number of elements.

A perhaps less intuitive way of thinking of it is you start with a sequence of 1 up to N, which contains exactly N elements. The sequence from 1 to N and its reverse together contain 2N elements, which is by definition an even number, regardless of whether N is even or odd. Because it’s even we can break it into pairs without leftovers.

LordGimp,

Add the last number onto the end. So the sum of all numbers between 1 and 101 is 50 pairs of 101 plus one extra 101 and the end. It’d end up being 5050 + 101 or 51x101 or 5151

stolid_agnostic,

This is my first time seeing this problem. Interesting that they taught it in school.

LordGimp,

Had a statistics and probability class in hs instead of the standard precalc. I feel it’s more applicable for students now than precalc anyways. It felt pretty cool to sit down in class and figure out the odds of winning on a lotto ticket and when the odds indicate you should buy a ticket.

stolid_agnostic, (edited )

Yeah pre-calc is pretty much remedial math nowadays. You don’t even get 100 level math until you’re at intermediate algebra!

Thinking of it in terms of statistics makes a lot of sense, I can see how this problem would help develop intuitions.

0ops,

The math is the same, you just wrote it more “casually”. For me it was 0+100, 1+99, 2+98 … 49+51 -> 100 x 50 = 5000, then add the 50 that was missed from the middle for 5050. But yeah I remember coming up with that when I was really young.

leftzero, in After 100ish years, Graffiti becomes noteworthy
sarmale, (edited ) in After 100ish years, Graffiti becomes noteworthy

That roman dude who schatched his name into a pyramid?

SnipingNinja, in poggers

Can also be called a programmer move

Chakravanti,

Not a good one.

idiomaddict, (edited )

Better than a regular grammer move

Chakravanti,

That’s an unecesaary rm

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug, in Let's meet those headlines

Consider the following

Saxophone - Persephone

MaxVoltage,
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MalEcoLes ParTecUles

samus12345,
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Sax-oh-fo-nay

entropicdrift,
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Huh, the way I say Persephone (per-seh-fuh-knee), Saxophone would be pronounced sax-aw-fuh-knee or maybe sax-oh-phony (the way I say saxophone normally in my accent is sacks-uh-phone)

nomecks,

Michael Bublé - Google

BodePlotHole,

Canoes - Volcanoes

Technus, in still worthy

Abstinence implies that using it is some sort of dirty pleasure…

rockerface,

We don’t kinkshame here

ColdWater, in gatekeeping
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Didn’t it 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9?

AnneBonny,

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elbarto777,

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starman2112,
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That’s just all the Arabic numerals

ivanafterall, in gatekeeping
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Nope, you fell for the classic sibling blunder:

What about INFINITY PLUS ONE!?

Yondoza, (edited )

It’s Infinity! Infinity -1? also infinity! Well what about infinity times infinity? Believe it or not, infinity! ♾️

rockerface,

Infinity gangsta when aleph null walks in

lemmington_steele,

assuming the interval includes all of the real numbers, then it is definitely larger than aleph null (the size of all countable infinities)

ApexHunter,

What about infinity times zero?

rockerface,

For that one we’re going to call my good friend L’Hôpital. That guy rules!

fallingcats, (edited )
Kase,

Oh yeah? What’s infinity divided by zero?

CarbonIceDragon, in gatekeeping
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Last time I saw this kind of challenge it was on reddit and I just replied with ℝ, but people brought up that this leaves out complex numbers. I’ll now contend, however, that any number not included in that isn’t real.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

I prefer $

FooBarrington,

Complex numbers? That sounds imaginary.

BigDanishGuy,

Just like birds, complex numbers aren’t real!

Screw you sqrt(-1), you aren’t even a real number, you poser!

fossilesque,
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zzx,

This image goes so hard

morrowind,
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You could use ℂ

eestileib,

Quaternions hello?

Toldry,
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That leaves out quaternions

hernanca,

What about quaternions and octonions and …

yetAnotherUser,

{x | x is a number}

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