Man, I’m sorry for some people Everytime someone says that they’re enjoying Discovery you have some arrogant piece of shit who has to waltz in and say “YEAH BUT IT SUCKS AND THEY FUCKED UP THE SEASONS AND IT’S NOT ENJOYABLE”.
Just let other people like what they like, fuck. Is that so hard?
I’m so tired of this constant negativity from people who claim to be Trek fans while being utterly blind to the lessons therein.
Keep enjoying the show buddy. I’m glad you’re having a fun time and I’m sorry that so many douchebags can’t let other people have their own fun. Fuck 'em.
The travel time is a huge part of what makes a Star Trek episode.
It is almost never what makes part of a Star Trek episode. Not beyond “We’re far away from people for reasons”. Besides, a single ship having it and being able to be handicapped isn’t exactly something that suddenly shattered everything in Star Trek.
Well, I mean that’s a lie. “Good intentions don’t make rocket fuel.” The first rocket that was ever designed was designed specifically to go to space. It was used in WW2 by the Nazis but its creator said “The rocket worked perfectly, but it fell on the wrong planet.” Those good intentions are needed for every step of space exploration. You don’t get to suddenly become a rampant narcissistic, misogynistic, arrogant piece of human garbage the second that you clear the gravity well of your home planet. You hold true to those purposes because they will inform your every decision. If you start doing horrible things in the pursuit of a lofty goal, you corrupt that goal and all actions you take in the future. You will be looking through things in a dirtied, bloodied lens. Or, as someone once put it far better…
“You cannot explain away a wantonly immoral act because you think that it is connected to some higher purpose.” - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Whether you do good things or bad things is who you are. If you start taking terrible actions then you become a terrible person. Or, as the man again once said…
“It’s our morality that defines us. It’s part of the truth of our existence.”
Then there’s the fact that Elon constantly shits on everyone below him. Guess what? There’s a few quotes for that too. Here are my favorites.
“No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another.”
“You know, there are some words I’ve known since I was a schoolboy. “With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.” Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning. The first time any man’s freedom is trodden on, we’re all damaged.”
Or what about this interaction between Worf and Picard?
Picard: We think we’ve come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, is all ancient history. Then, before you can blink an eye, suddenly, it threatens to start all over again.
Worf: I believed her. I… helped her. I did not see her for what she was.
Picard: Mr. Worf, villains who twirl their moustache are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well-camouflaged.
Worf: I think… after yesterday people will not be so ready to trust her.
Picard: Maybe. But she, or someone like her, will always be with us. Waiting for the right climate in which to flourish, spreading fear in the name of righteousness. […] Vigilance, Mr. Worf. That is the price we must continually pay.
Now lemme top all this ramble off with one final slightly edited quote to cement my point.
The first duty of every Star Trek fan is to the truth, whether it’s scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based! If you can’t find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don’t deserve to wear that cosplay.
That’s fair. My tastes in Trek run counter to what most peoples do. I’m not an ENORMOUS fan of the Kelvin movies, but I enjoy them for what they are and will turn 'em on occasionally. The two biggest things I look for? Simon Pegg and Anton Yelchin. Everytime. Kinda hard not to love them. Bruce Greenwood as Pike was pretty great too considering he had a lot of room to work with given (at the time) almost no development of that character.
You say he never fell from the path but I’d argue heavily against that. I mean he didn’t prior to Kenobi but after that? I typically stand by the stance that the only Jedi in the Original Trilogy is Luke and he doesn’t even count until RotJ.
Obi-Wan and Yoda actively lied to Luke about who his father was. They trained him to kill Darth Vader, his father, in what feels like an act of vengeance for how Vader betrayed them. Now I get it, they do have a justification in saying go after Vader but they were insistent on Vader. Not Palpatine. Sure, Daddy Vader is a problem but he’s not the sole problem. Getting rid of him would hurt the Empire but with Palpatine and everyone else hanging around it is still going to be standing very strong. They also can’t claim ignorance of Palpatine considering Yoda did his ‘Kermit on Ketamine’ sequence at the Senate against The Senate. I mean, for fucks sake, Yoda starts trying to die faster the second that Luke starts asking questions. Obi-Wan, a fucking ghost at this point, is still lying to the poor kid and trying to justify his behavior.
Now, like I said, I don’t blame either of them. The loss that both Yoda and Obi-Wan suffered was utterly immeasurable but they were not exactly holding strictly to Jedi ideals and teachings at that point. Flowing through them the hate was.