Neither of you were joking. You’ve both doubled on that position so you can’t fall back on the “Oh I was kidding” explanation here. Especially considering that within a couple of minutes of posting that comment, every single recent comment or post I made was randomly downvoted.
Moreover, you’re both desperately attempting to move the goalpost here. You never started this as a debate about the art. You openly, both, started saying that the people behind it didn’t understand Star Trek and therefore it wasn’t canon. If you wanted to actually discuss the art you would have done so honestly and genuinely, not try to shoehorn it in after the fact and claim that I’m trying to stifle critiques. No. You both came at this in a hostile and hateful fashion and are shocked that someone has dared to point that out. You never said this was about the art. Don’t try and pretend that’s what you’re doing now.
Call me a dick all you want. I’ve seen what makes you cheer and I couldn’t give less of a replicated tribble about your boos.
I wish you both all the best but I’m going to take my leave here and just avoid the both of y’all from now on. I have no interest in being around such dishonest, disingenuous, negative, cynical and hateful behavior. Take care.
What an astounding statement from a Star Trek fan. The show stands for peace, love, equality, nah. Fuck that. Hate everything around you and project negativity into every aspect of a discussion.
And I don’t. When you start deciding what is and isn’t canon all by yourself you end up fracturing the community to an enormous degree. Look at Star Wars. That entire community is filled with constant toxicity because of how hateful people get over disagreements of what is and isn’t real or what does and doesn’t “understand Star Wars”.
The behavior fosters nothing positive because there is nothing positive about the basis of what you’re doing. If you are ignoring canon and saying “They don’t get it” then that’s inherently negative. Everything from then on is based off of a bitterness and hatred about what came before. You will always descend and spiral into some depressing group of people who are now believing themselves to be the sole deciders of what is and isn’t canon because they are the only ones who could possibly understand what (input thing here) truly stands for and is about.
What you’re advocating for is just gatekeeping but about canon instead of fans. It’s… really gross behavior and frankly egotistical. Something can be canon without you liking it. Simply because you disagree with it doesn’t give you the right to say “Oh, no, I’m ignoring this as canon because it doesn’t fit with what I want” while engaging with the fandom as a whole. If you don’t like it and want to pretend it doesn’t exist, fine, but when you start going into full on discussions and injecting that bitterness and cynicism into it? That’s just repugnant.
I’ll be avoiding that like the plague, thank you very much.
Like I said… keep these conversations in mind by the time you get to late Season 3 lol
Honestly I hadn’t even heard of St Marie before but then again my knowledge of people who aren’t related to Star Trek is drastically short. And the only culture my room has screams “Broke white boy with an unhealthy Trek obsession”
I might tomorrow… it’s cloudy and cold and shitty today. I miss the sun
That was an interesting google rabbit hole. But i’m pure imperial invader here. Although spending some time out in a park before the weather becomes completely unbearable isn’t a bad idea. Just… lonely.
Yep! That’s what I meant with SNW keeping the detail in. It’s not quite as obvious as the DSC gold on navy but it’s a really really cool touch and update to the classic design.
I was abused from when I was born to when I was early 20s by my family and then an abusive ex. I’ve been attacked for being gay and was disowned by my family for the same reason. I spent most of my 20s homeless and lost out on a lot of time due to realizing that no one really cares about other people, at least the majority doesn’t. Lost everything I have as well as everything I was. Have always been depressed and a mess and hoped things would get better. They haven’t. They’ve gotten steadily and gradually worse. At the most they plateau for a little bit. I’ve lost pretty much all the people I care about and I have no energy to really do anything anymore. I don’t want to die but I want to be dead. I am tired all of the time. While I know all of this is a drastic and pretty severe problem, I can’t do anything about it. I’m stuck on waiting lists to talk to people or get prescriptions, and that’s when I can afford them. I don’t see a purpose to really… do anything anymore. I have no drive. No motivation. No hope. No dreams. No aspirations. No anything. I am literally just waiting until I die and trying to enjoy the tiny amount of things that have been put in front of me. That’s when I can enjoy the things without someone chiming in to say how much the thing sucks, often people who I respect/admire/care about being the people who say it. Mostly because I don’t know how to make good decisions and often surround myself with people who hate me because it feels more comforting to have someone insult me than compliment me. As fucking psychotic as that is. So I just post memes and wile away my time until I die.
That’s mainly why.
But it is what it is. Such is life. Soldier on, keep going, carry on, yadda yadda.
Man… that episode got me so hype. When they popped out there I immediately started shouting. I know that fucking alley. Recognizing all the outdoor stops was a trip and a half. Have I seen tons of movies with Toronto in it? Sure. Pretty sure I’m in a couple of 'em. But in STAR TREK?!