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thebuoyancyofcitrus, to science_memes in GIS nerds be like

Why do that when you can pull in a hydrological dataset and perform stream network analysis to find the flow path between your points of interest?

spaduf,

smh at folks using googlemaps instead of qgis

RootBeerGuy, to science_memes in postdocs
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Where does postdoctoral fellow fit in?

someguy3, (edited ) to science_memes in Let's meet those headlines

Can someone help me out and tell me how they would be pronounced?

I think I got par-teh-cleese.

Moe-leck-you-leese?

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Moe-leh-cleese, to make it more like Hercules = Heracles in Greek.

DroneRights,

Mol-eh-cue-lees

Par-tik-lees

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Par-tik-lees

Probably pronounced the same but my brain breaks it up like this:

Part-ih-klees

Threeme2189,

Testicules or Testiklees?

DroneRights,

Testicles doesn’t have a U in it, so the second one.

jettrscga,

What you wrote looks right to me.

Lucien, to science_memes in mentally unbalanced behaviour
@Lucien@hexbear.net avatar

But are you wearing welding goggles?

guyrocket, to science_memes in mentally unbalanced behaviour
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

But what are they so mad about?

Bishma, to science_memes in mentally unbalanced behaviour
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Any time you see a video of a cat backing up and saying “no no no no no” it’s because they’re watching the researcher’s hand move toward the on switch of that centrifuge.

RandomVideos, (edited ) to science_memes in aLiEnS!!1

A couple years ago my chemistry teacher told my class that the Egyptians had really advanced technology (technology even more advanced than our own) thousands of years ago but it all got lost because they started a nuclear war

Edit: she told us that the evidence was that there were smartphone paintings

Adkml,

Great filter theory bit it already happened and nobody noticed.

xilliah,

She must go to some good parties.

DefinitelyNotAPhone,
@DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net avatar

Famously impossible thing to detect in historical records: massive amounts of uranium-235.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Sounds like he was sneaking sniffs in the flammable cabinet a little too often.

veniasilente, to science_memes in gatekeeping

Aren’t there numbers past (plus/minus) infinity? Last I hear there’s some omega stuff (for denoting numbers “past infinity”) and it’s not even the usual alpha-beta-omega flavour.

Come to think of it, is there even a notation for “the last possible number” in math? aka something that you just can’t tack “+1” at the end of to make a new number?

humanplayer2, (edited )
@humanplayer2@lemmy.ml avatar

Which of the infinities? There are many, many :D

The smallest infinity is the size of the natural numbers. That infinty, Aleph zero, is smaller than the infinity of the real numbers, Aleph one. “etc.”

See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number

veniasilente,

Which of the infinities? There are many, many :D

Oh no! Please don’t tell me there are infinity infinities!

weker01,

Unfortunately yes there are and it’s a very big infinity of infinties…

veniasilente,

Oh wow and here I was hoping…

…actually, I don’t know what, but I was hoping.

DoomBot5,

Wait, they ran out of greek letters and started using Hebrew ones now? When did that happen?

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t wait to see how much is the number Gimel

starman2112, (edited )
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

No matter what Wikipedia says, Aleph Null is the real way to say it, because it sounds so much cooler

humanplayer2,
@humanplayer2@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree. But I’m Danish, where zero is called nul and and Ø is in the alphabet, so I try to cool ot a bit with the coolness.

drbluefall,
@drbluefall@toast.ooo avatar

What you’re probably thinking of is Ordinal numbers.

As for your second question, I don’t think any “last number” could exist unless we explicitly declared one. And even then… I’m not sure what utility there would be in declaring a “last number”.

veniasilente,

I mean, whoever gets to declare a “last number” that works certainly will get some bragging rights. After all, you can only ever declare one.

…Right?

(I know math is very weird)

kerrigan778, (edited )

There is nothing “past” infinity, infinity is more a concept than a number, there are however many different kinds of infinity. And for the record, infinity + 1 = infinity, those are completely equal. Infinity + infinity = infinity x 2 = still the same kind of infinity. Infinity times infinity is debatably a different kind of infinity but there are fairly simple ways of showing it can be counted the same.

Essentially the number of numbers between 1 and 2 is the same as the number of numbers between 0 and infinity. They are still infinite.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Is infinity to the power of infinity special?

CompassRed, (edited )

You have the spirit of things right, but the details are far more interesting than you might expect.

For example, there are numbers past infinity. The best way (imo) to interpret the symbol ∞ is as the gap in the surreal numbers that separates all infinite surreal numbers from all finite surreal numbers. If we use this definition of ∞, then there are numbers greater than ∞. For example, every infinite surreal number is greater than ∞ by the definition of ∞. Furthermore, ω > ∞, where ω is the first infinite ordinal number. This ordering is derived from the embedding of the ordinal numbers within the surreal numbers.

Additionally, as a classical ordinal number, ω doesn’t behave the way you’d expect it to. For example, we have that 1+ω=ω, but ω+1>ω. This of course implies that 1+ω≠ω+1, which isn’t how finite numbers behave, but it isn’t a contradiction - it’s an observation that addition of classical ordinals isn’t always commutative. It can be made commutative by redefining the sum of two ordinals, a and b, to be the max of a+b and b+a. This definition is required to produce the embedding of the ordinals in the surreal numbers mentioned above (there is a similar adjustment to the definition of ordinal multiplication that is also required).

Note that infinite cardinal numbers do behave the way you expect. The smallest infinite cardinal number, ℵ₀, has the property that ℵ₀+1=ℵ₀=1+ℵ₀. For completeness sake, returning to the realm of surreal numbers, addition behaves differently than both the cardinal numbers and the ordinal numbers. As a surreal number, we have ω+1=1+ω>ω, which is the familiar way that finite numbers behave.

What’s interesting about the convention of using ∞ to represent the gap between finite and infinite surreal numbers is that it renders expressions like ∞+1, 2∞, and ∞² completely meaningless as ∞ isn’t itself a surreal number - it’s a gap. I think this is a good convention since we have seen that the meaning of an addition involving infinite numbers depends on what type of infinity is under consideration. It also lends truth to the statement, “∞ is not a number - it is a concept,” while simultaneously allowing us to make true expressions involving ∞ such as ω>∞. Lastly, it also meshes well with the standard notation of taking limits at infinity.

Leate_Wonceslace, (edited )
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hi, I’m a mathematician. My specialty is Algebra, and my research includes work with transfinites. While it’s commonly said that infinity “isn’t a number” I tend to disagree with this, since it often limits how people think about it. Furthermore, I always find it odd when people offer up alternatives to what infinity is; are numbers never concepts?

Regardless, here’s the thing you’re actually concretely wrong about: there are provably things bigger than infinity, and they are all bigger infinities. Furthermore, there are multiple kinds of transfinite algebra. Cardinal algebra behaves mostly like how you described, except every transfinite cardinal has a successor (e.g. There are countably many natural numbers and uncountably many complex numbers). Ordinal algebra, on the other hand, works very differently: if ω is the ordinal that corresponds to countable infinity, then ω+1>ω.

jflorez,

There is nothing past infinity on the real number line. Then there is the imaginary line that gives you an infinity for the complex numbers

Leate_Wonceslace,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hi! I’m a mathematician, and if you want to know more about infinity, I recommend this video: youtu.be/23I5GS4JiDg

veniasilente,

After reading how this thread is going I’m half expecting this to be a Kurzgesagt video or something equally “cutesy existential dread” inducing lol. Let’s see what do I find!

Sabre363, to science_memes in Let's meet those headlines

I petition that henceforth all words be pronounced in the spirit of Greek heroes

DarkDarkHouse,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

All hail the great Johncles

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

“My testicles itch.”

Threeme2189,

All hail the mighty Testicules!

dangblingus, to science_memes in Let's meet those headlines

What does “let’s meet those headlines” mean?

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Meet those headlines [with all the flair that they give science journalism]

perishthethought, to science_memes in Let's meet those headlines

This reminded me I play an online game with a guy who signs in as Testicles, the Greek philosopher.

Malfeasant,
agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, I for one live by the Testiclecratic Oath.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@kbin.social avatar

My partner recently bought me a stuffed cat that has giant balls. It's hilarious, long story. Anyway I've named him Bophades.

perishthethought,

Bophades

I’m familiar with the legend, yes.

LittleWizard, to science_memes in What does a PhD mean?

A PhD is not the only way to expand human knowledge. This is disregarding a lot of work done by a lot of hard working people.

Patches,

Yes but how will I feel good that I spent 140k on a piece of paper if I don’t brag about it?

SaakoPaahtaa,

Imagine having to pay for education

avrachan,

most PhDs are paid a salary.

DrDr,

I’ve been making six figures while getting my PhD. There are plenty of opportunities to get your PhD funded if you are a US citizen. There are plenty more valid places to poke fun at pursuing a PhD but it is very common to have funding and thus no debt.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

wtf kind of university are you studying at? We get minimum wage here

ReluctantMuskrat, (edited )

You might be surprised to learn it doesn’t actually suggest a PhD is the only way to expand human knowledge. No one was disregarded.

Daxtron2,

No one says it was the only way? But one of the requirements of getting that PhD is to expand knowledge so it’s 100% applicable

ShustOne,

I don’t think it’s meant to do that. Also if we substitute PhD for learning both will be true.

dreamer,

Good luck expanding the fields of math and science without a PhD.

LittleWizard,

Like the guy who found this somehow important new shape not to long ago? I don’t think he has a PhD. But he did contribute. Not saying that it’s easy though.

dreamer,

I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I expected someone to bring up some shit like that. My point still stands.

LittleWizard,

Lookup the Einstein problem. I’m talking about the aperiodic monotile discovered by David Smith.

Pulptastic,

Presumably you could meet the boundary with “a dollah fifty in late fees at the public library” and find a way to push through from there. You’d have to find a way to publish or share your new knowledge. Studying at uni gives you access to experts in their own thing that likely have knowledge that could help you with your thing as well as a system designed to churn out these papers when you eventually find your thing.

Every day people discover new things but it takes attention, effort, and will to PROVE it’s a new thing and more yet to share that with the world. Too bad you can’t get an honorary PhD for doing that, at least not reliably.

Treevan, (edited )
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

As their specialised knowledge reaches the edge of the circle, their general knowledge updating should retract.

Everyone has met a PhD that is almost entirely clueless in other areas. Not their fault though, don’t get me wrong.

Edit: The person that downvoted must be Dr. Climate Change Denier. Dr. Covid Denier has joined the fray.

Dozzi92,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

It’s funny but you see the same thing in sports, or I see it specifically in hockey. Phenom kid gets drafted and at 18 has the social skills of the hockey puck he’s playing with. By the time he’s 36 he’s not the player he once was but is a more well rounded individual with age and experience. When you focus all your energy to become the best at something, like a PhD, athlete, musician, whatever, you sacrifice some things along the way for sure.

catastrophicblues,

I feel so called out. I’m alright in my field but completely clueless outside of it.

trolololol, (edited )

When u look at most people I feel like the trending alternative at 18-50 y is personality of a hockey puck and also skills of a hockey puck, with the reasoning ability of the hockey puck.

angrystego,

That’s not universally true. I know several people with PhD who have encyclopedic knowledge completely outside their specialisation. Some people are just super intelligent, talented and have enormous memory. The world is not fair.

state_electrician, to science_memes in aLiEnS!!1

The constant barrage of Joe Rogan clips of idiots claming it was impossible to move these huge stones over those distances with the tech at the time was what drove me to disable YouTube shorts.

li10,

You can disable shorts??

I need to do that. I get stuck in a loop of watching them, and 90% of them just piss me off anyway.

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Honestly, the first and arguably most important step is recognizing how much of online content is specifically designed to get a reaction out of you, primarily in the form pissing you off.

paradiso,

Yep, might explain some of the irritability of people online.

BolexForSoup, (edited )
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

What’s funny (I guess funny lol) is ever since I got my current job about 2.5 years ago, I no longer need to use social media. I am much, much happier without it. But I still get into little fights on forums and I really wish I didn’t. Every now and then I resolve to be less hostile, and things really do improve, but somehow I always get dragged back into old habits. But I’m a little hesitant to completely abandon things like Kbin because they are often my only window into events/what is going on/my hobbies. Idk what the answer is.

paradiso,

Well, the fact that you have the self awareness to realize is a great place to be. Not sure what to say other than try to treat your body with respect and your mind will follow.

NattyNatty2x4,

I honestly I’m surprised how much of a problem this is for people. All I’ve done is made sure to hit the “not interested” type buttons on YouTube and tiktok whenever they pop up, and I’ve run into next to nothing after like 3 times of doing that. Sometimes I’ll watch something the algorithm thinks is adjacent to ragebait or alt-right bullshit so it’ll try to feed it to me, and after not-interested’ing the video it goes back to feeding me the stuff I actually want…

Do people just not use those features or is my experience with the algorithms really that different?

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

So you’re actually thinking of it a little more narrowly, which is understandable. What I mean by “content designed to piss you off” is VERY broad.

Conservatives like Fox News, but it makes them pissed off, right? Social media can be exactly the same way.

NattyNatty2x4,

Ah that’s fair, I think I might’ve been injected other related conversations I’ve seen into this one. My bad!

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

No worries

NicoCharrua,
@NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca avatar

There’s probably a way to do it in browser with ublock origin or another extension.

On android, ReVanced.

state_electrician,

I use ReVanced on my phone and it has an option to hide shorts permanently. In the browser I use an extension for that, there are multiple ones.

mtchristo, to science_memes in OCB

You mean they skipped 4. Pointed polygons and chosen a hexagon instead. What’s their problem with right angles.

casino,

Less volume per unit of surface area

emuspawn,
@emuspawn@orbiting.observer avatar

C’mon man, don’t be a square.

Taniwha420, to science_memes in Let's meet those headlines

I would also like entomologists to pronounce the insect orders properly. That ‘p’? It belongs to the ‘-ter’. It’s ‘pter’, for wing. As in ‘coleo-ptera’, the ‘shield wing’, not ‘col-e-OP-tera’. Or ‘neuro-ptera’, the ‘lace-wing’, not ‘neur-OP-tera’.

We actually put the accent on a syllable THAT DOESN’T FUCKING EXIST in the Greek.

Fucking nonsense.

DarkDarkHouse,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Helico-pter

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

I learned from ESLs. Sue me.

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