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Thwompthwomp, (edited ) to science_memes in 🦃 happy turkey day 🦃

j eighth? J over 8? It took me an embarrassingly long time to remember to use i :(

Isoprenoid,

Spot the electrical engineer.

Track_Shovel, to science_memes in Gobble gobble
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TIL a snood is basically a Turkey face dick, which is an excellent band name.

Hi we are Turkey face dick, and this is our song GOOOOOOOGGBBUGUFHGUFHGUGHHGIBH!

girl, to science_memes in Correlation, maybe causation?

how tf did this receive funding lmao

nova_ad_vitum,

This was in France. Do you need further explanation?

GarbageShoot, to science_memes in What does a PhD mean?

They are being incredibly charitable with the width of that column

cvozbosher,

Knowledge is a grower and a shower

sooper_dooper_roofer, (edited )

and also by not showing the bigger picture

i.postimg.cc/V19Jwzqd/knowledge-circle.png

there would also be an even bigger boundary of “all of reality” or something but obvs that would be infinite and impossible to know

gvsteve, to science_memes in Oopsie!

She knows the botanical gardens are free access but pretends not to

JudahBenHur,

Phipps in Pittsburgh, which is wonderful, is not free and I have 100% taken multiple dates there and its always a panty-dropper

Kusimulkku,

Not all of them, obvs

frickineh,

Shit, it’s $15 per person in Denver. An annual pass would work on me for sure. I have the zoo and the science museum but a girl can only afford so many memberships.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

There’s always Hudson Gardens.

I guess $15 isn’t given how much there is to see.

uphillbothways, to science_memes in it's got the juice
@uphillbothways@kbin.social avatar

That nitrogen isn't really made available unless the plant has been turned into the soil as green manure at flower. Harvesting the bean crop (protein/nitrogen rich itself) leaves the soil about neutral, maybe somewhat depleted depending on how the field is cleared and prepped for the next planting. Also, there's research showing that some corn can fix some nitrogen itself on the slimy exudates of aerial roots.

Track_Shovel,
@Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

nitrogen isn’t made available

You’re describing N balance rather than the fixation and conversion of fixed N.

If it’s fixed, it becomes plant available, by being quickly turned into ingorganic forms (primarily No3).

uphillbothways, (edited )
@uphillbothways@kbin.social avatar

That nitrogen is fixed inside root nodules on the root system of the bean plants. It's taken up by them immediately. It's not available to the corn or anything else growing nearby.

And, you misquoted me.

Track_Shovel, (edited )
@Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

I looked this up, because I recalled reading about some priming effect from the nodules to the soil.

Turns out we’re both a little off but you’re more on target than I was. They talk about it under Nitrogen return to soil

There is some priming for other non legumes 30-50 lb/ac (roughly 25 ppm). Not that much for N hungry plants but for general growth/an N starved system (forest Reclamation) that’s pretty reasonable

And misquoted me, you did

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The_v,

They really need to update that paper with some better information. That is what you get when you chronically underfund the extension services and all the best and brightest bail to private industry to make more money. I had to pull up the source material the article because my bullsit meter went off.

sci-hub.se/…/agronj1996.00021962008800050025x

After reviewing the source material, you are 100% completely wrong :-)

First off the “transfer” of N from alfalfa to a grass was stated in the sourcing paper to be from mineralization of roots. Aka decomposing plant parts.

Perennial species often grow new roots and abandon older roots every year.

Alfalfa will abandon and regrow new roots after every cutting as the plant pulls carbohydrates from the roots to grow new stems and leaves.

The thing is that the grasses will do the exact same thing. Older roots die back and newer roots grow. So it’s more of mutual swapping of N rather than a one-sided legume being leaky.

Track_Shovel,
@Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

K

The_v,

The whole three sisters thing was an early crop rotation method. Not all together like as advertised.

Beans where grown first as they are shallow rooted and produce about 50% of the nitrogen they need. If they harvest 25% of the crop and till under the rest they have around around a 25% increase in a available N.

The next season is corn and pumpkins together. They are both heavy N feeders. They spaced out the corn a lot more than modern hybrids so the pumpkins had plenty of room to grow and shade out weeds. They unfortunately share the pest of cucumber beetle species (corn rootworm).

The next season they had to go back to beans to break the rootworm cycle.

Eventually other nutrients would become low (P,K, micros etc). Other pests and diseases would buildup. They would rotate onto new plots letting the old plots go fallow for a while.

agent_flounder, (edited )
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Hm. Maybe I need to dig into the Wikipedia sources then because something is amiss here.

[en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Three_Sisters_(agriculture)](…m.wikipedia.org/…/Three_Sisters_(agriculture))

The_v,

The Europeans reported the three sisters methodwith some tribes in the northeast. The accounts are all very jumbled and contradictory. The tribes in New England also appear to have have been relatively new to growing. All three species were not found together in New England before the 1300’s. If they did grow them this way they could only do it one season in a location. They would have to change locations then next year.

Fundementally you can’t plant corn/pumpkins repeatedly without a break. It’s a mega attractant to the rootworm beetles which are endemic to North America. If they did not rotate they would have crop failures after only one season. Beans also have all sorts fungal and bacterial diseases. The only way they could control them is via rotation/fallowing.

What was done in mesoamerica for thousands of years was rotation. They were the ones that domesticated the three species and built large civilizations from the extra food availability. They grew bush and vine beans, corn, and pumpkins. They also grew casava, tomatoes, peppers and other species. When yields started to decline, they would fallow the ground and move their plots.

There is evidence that the Mayans for over 500 years mostly figured out how to avoid fallowing their fields. They would grow 3 cycles per year in rotation for a large surplus of food.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

That’s seriously fascinating stuff especially as a veg gardener. Appreciate the detailed info and insight!

The_v,

Here’s a fun thought.

In the old world, agriculture started in the Mediterranean and temperate regions. The domesticated species are mostly winter annuals or adapted to a Mediterranean climate (dry summers, wet winters).

New world species are mostly subtropical or tropical species. Corn, potatoes, pumpkins, beans, tomatoes, peppers, etc are all warm weather crops. This is a major reason the large population centers developed in the tropical and subtropical areas.

Populations in the North America domesticated other species like lambsquarters and erect knotweed. However these species were not as productive and they gave them up when corn and beans were traded for from present day Mexico.

So the least experienced farmers with the species, were the first ones the Europeans ran into in North America. :-)

HawlSera, to science_memes in Pretty interesting, huh?

Those who study history are doomed to watch it repeated by others.

ArbitraryValue, (edited ) to science_memes in Pretty interesting, huh?

The PETM wasn’t so bad, and neither was the Cretaceous hothouse Earth. Paleontology gives me the perspective needed to know that we’re not all going to die even in the worst-case scenario.

bdkmshr,

We are going mad max style

Yawweee877h444,

We may revert back to monke though.

Jokes aside, no way do I want to live through a “worst case scenario” or anything even close to it.

IAmHisBiggestSpoon,

Just the poorest and most vulnerable amongst us, who happens to be contributing the least to the cause.

Daxtron2,

Yeah I’m sure the rich and powerful will be a-ok in their bunkers while the rest of us burn, drown, and fight over the last remaining resources.

ArbitraryValue,

Bunkers? Burn? The air will still be breathable and the temperature will still be within the livable range. Global warming is a big problem, but it isn’t going to turn the planet into an uninhabitable wasteland, just as it didn’t during the multiple times in the past when it happened naturally.

Daxtron2,

Well the increased wildfires will certainly burn you.

Knusper,

We’re already seeing an increase in natural disasters, with various areas experiencing floods, draughts or wildfires that didn’t use to have them.
This alone leads to political conflicts in those areas, but also leads to mass emigrations, ultimately causing the political egoists right in unaffected areas being strengthened, which could at its worst lead to another Nazi uprising, world war etc…

I do also think that humanity as a whole will survive (that is, if we don’t obliterate the ecosystems sustaining our lives, like e.g. pollinators). But our current life style of 8 billion people across all areas of Earth may not be sustainable anymore, which does mean the more privileged will be fine, others not.

Dabundis, to science_memes in "Wow, she must really like maths."

j miss you :^)

redballooon,

Maths, not engineering!

Dabundis,

i will always be current. j will always be the square root of -1. Nothing will ever override this in my brain

Cthulhu1,

J is the current density!

Dabundis,

Capital J is current density, lowercase j is √1

gibmiser, to science_memes in BIG GEOLOGY

They don’t want you to know it works, but I’ve been microdosing lava for years now. Now everything tastes the same and I can fly.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

How are your shits?

gibmiser,

Well… turns out tiny shards of volcanic rock are sharp enough to make surgical scalpels. So, colorful.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Well, I’m convinced.

vzq, (edited ) to science_memes in It's a new era.

I know they are dinosaurs, but the fact that someone was drawing comics about checks in 2017 is just baffling.

I don’t recall seeing a check since the late 80s.

Monkeyhog,

I work at a bank, I see thousands of checks a day. They’re still out there.

psud,

In America?

meliaesc,

I wrote two checks last week. I’m 29.

psud,

I’m 46 and have never used a cheque

Monkeyhog, (edited )

Yep, checks are used a lot by charities and churches, plus migrant workers are often paid by checks, and there’s market nearby that will cash all of their checks for them, and that market is a customer of my bank, so when they bring in their deposit, it’s a stack of checks at least 6 inches tall every day. And that’s honestly not even half of the checks we see a day.

vzq,

My condolences.

On the other hand, we don’t have bank offices here anymore either. And getting someone on the phone is a nightmare.

But it’s cheaper, so that’s why they raised prices. Wait, what?

I_am_10_squirrels,

They’re still somewhat common in the US. I use checks to pay the cleaners, and my bank sends checks for bill pay.

weariedfae,

Man, that’s some hyperbole. Ain’t nobody believing you haven’t seen a check in 40 years. It’s not for every day use but there’s always something that needs a check for some dumb reason, like setting up direct deposit or paying the emergency plumber. Stuff comes up.

wandermind, (edited )

I’m not American, but

I’ve literally never seen a check in my life, and I’ve been around since the late 80s.

funkless_eck,

I got paid by check for a gig on Christmas Eve.

acockworkorange, (edited )

Believe it, bub. In backwater places like Brazil people have moved on from credit and debit cards to fully digital systems like Pix. Meanwhile my town in Tennessee will take only cash or cheque for taxes.

Jorgelino,

I’m so used to my country being late to this type of stuff that i only realised pix wasn’t an international thing until just recently.

Also how dare you?! Only i get to call this backwater place backwater! /s

acockworkorange,

Is there a c/suddenlycaralho?

wildginger,

I mean, fully digital isnt a massive flex. “Cash is king” is a saying for a reason

kakes,

Other than getting paid for a few labor jobs out of high school, I haven’t seen a cheque used ever, so I can believe it. Banks give sheets with direct deposit info, and any tradespeople I’ve hired have taken various other forms of payment.

For reference, this is in Canada though, so not the default.

vzq, (edited )

Man, that’s some hyperbole. Ain’t nobody believing you haven’t seen a check in 40 years.

Late 80s is only 35 years ago, but other than that believe it. It’s true. In 1991 Maestro launched and everyone moved over to debit card payments.

The cheques only really disappeared in 2002 when the bank guarantees stopped, but I haven’t seen one in the wild since I was a little little lad. I have never ever ever had a checkbook in my own name.

More info on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocheque

It’s not for every day use but there’s always something that needs a check for some dumb reason, like setting up direct deposit or paying the emergency plumber.

My last emergency plumber was a kid in his twenties. I don’t think he even knows what a check is. But he definitely knows what a debit card is, and has a portable terminal.

xantoxis, (edited ) to science_memes in i <3 statistics

There’s no need to kill anyone. As our climate collapses, that’ll start to happen on its own

hydroptic,

A lot of it won’t happen on its own though. While direct deaths from climate-related things (floods, fires, wet bulb events, whatever) will happen, you can bet your ass that there’ll be a lot of murderizing too.

Nudding,

Business as usual

hydroptic,

Oh yes, the default setting for a disconcerting percentage of humans is to get violent when things get rough.

Nudding,

We’ve been violent since we started.

GBU_28,

Probably 90% over our whole species timespan

DessertStorms, (edited )
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

Or....

We could kill the people who are not only directly responsible for, but who are actively refusing to stop the climate collapse because they want to keep making money and lording over us all from their super yachts (after giving them the opportunity to surrender their wealth for redistribution and stop their exploitation of course, which they will refuse), and actually have a realistic chance of stopping it.

GBU_28,

Go after who you want, but the climate yacht has sailed. Drop it to zero tomorrow and we are still toast.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Yeah but the people that will be dying won’t be the ones with the biggest carbon footprints. It’ll be climate migrants from underdeveloped areas or island nations.

That’s the saddest part.

Donjuanme, to science_memes in This is too real

It’s not a mess, it’s a “working lab”… That I haven’t cleaned since the big boss was last here 3 months ago. Shit he’s coming next week…

elvith, to memes in Hurt like me.

.:|:;

nodimetotie, to science_memes in Corvids...

It’s only the beginning. Then they will get negative numbers, integers, reals, you name it

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