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TimeSquirrel, to memes in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com
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kornfan82@angelfire.com

EcstaticHumility, to memes in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com
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You guys are still using the same email?

ProvokedGamer, to memes in Does it not pierce thine very heart?
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What’s more awful? Most of the history we know is biased in favour of the winners.

frezik,

There’s lots of sources from the losing side. Josephus was a Jewish writer who told of the Roman destruction of the temple. The history of the Eastern Front of WWII, as it was known to the West, was dominated by the writings of German soldiers for a long time.

History is written by writers. For much of it, that means it comes to us from an educated upper class. That’s where the historical blind spots are.

xusontha, to memes in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com

Oh god don’t remind me, I STILL have stuff tied to that email

potoo22,

Friend got locked out of Instagram account because yahoo deactivated their email. Instagram flagged the email as inactive. After my friend forgot their password, Instagram wouldn’t send pw reset emails even after reactivating the account. They also has no direct customer support whatsoever, so that account was lost.

Kalkaline, to memes in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com
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Thank goodness Gmail came out so I could get away from my Yahoo email.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

you will be thanking protonmail, tutanota or posteo.de

Annoyed_Crabby, to memes in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com

Edgyvideogamecharacter22@hotmail .com

swab148,
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I bet you have a very wholesome password

Rootiest,

PW:

u#'o*zaQMyPC"fnw?Cu9OSrxYeEDCe6yXgzQYL4NxP?k%sx+'dBKfdru0CUmD&

If the server won’t take a 64-char pw with letters, numbers, and symbols then is it even worth using?

robot_dog_with_gun,

all i see is *****************************************************************

swab148,
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I’m gonna use your password, but change one character so it’s mine.

Rootiest,

Go for it!

I generated it in KeePass for this comment and actually interestingly it looks like Lemmy butchered/sanitized/modified it as well

Rootiest,

Which character are you going to change?

Annoyed_Crabby,

EdgyEarly2000Song55

Nah it’s just coldplay.

irmoz,

My favourite song is “Yellow” and my surname is “Rain”… you can guess what my first email at age 10 was…

Okay I made that up, but I bet something like that has happened

idegenszavak, to memes in It means no worries!

But that’s a boar, not a warthog

bdkmshr, to memes in Does it not pierce thine very heart?

I just want to know the lost and unrecorded meme that has so much potential

MDKAOD,
fox,

This was the peak. Every meme since this fella has been “thing good, thing bad”.

jadegear, to memes in Not today, sorry.

Why is there never a button for just the tip?

HawlSera, to memes in Does it not pierce thine very heart?

This is why I’m really hoping that the idea of quantum archeology turns out to be more science than bullshit.

MossyFeathers,

I’m not really sure what quantum archeology is, but another possibility is that, should we ever discover a way of circumventing the speed of light, you could fly millions of light-years away and set up a big-ass telescope to watch past earth. It’d only work if we discover a way of travelling ftl though, and it’s highly unlikely we’ll accomplish that in our lifetimes.

HawlSera,

Basically it’s this idea that you can date online the universe itself to restore anything or anyone from the past

Meowoem,

There are so many crazy possibilities that will probably never happen, I love imagining what the world would be like if we could look through a time window - my daydream is normally about sending probes back to the point in space earth used to be and how fascinating the debates about where to look first would be, knowing it’s going to take years to get there and record it with everyone debating and getting anxious as to what it’ll see.

Like imagine how much information you’d get from fifteen minutes 4k footage of a Roman senate debate, and how disappointing it’d be after all that anticipation if you get a day or was closed. Still a billion things to obsess over in the image but disappointing when you’re hoping to see ceaser speak

Of course trying to catch sight of Jesus would be a huge project, I imagine it like those grifts where people go looking for the arc. What do they do if there’s no sign? What do they do if when they look nothing is anything like expected - would be so many people trying to find clues to what actually happened, at some point someone is going to find something really wild like they finally find someone from the Bible but it’s Jesus mate Judas laughing about how rich they’re getting pulling the reward money and rescue scam from the good the bad and the ugly…

And the people scouring to get clips for their YouTube channel, histories biggest cringe moments, wildest parties in history, luckiest trick shots ever…

HawlSera, (edited )

What I would find absolutely crazy is someone having no idea how this technology that we find ubiquitous, but the far future doesn’t have a clue about it, so someone gets out his Quantum Resurrection machine and brings back Millenial Grandpa to explain how the cartridge needs to be blown into

lesnout27, to memes in It means no worries!

Hog on a log. Where will he go?

Blapoo, to memes in Does it not pierce thine very heart?

Sometimes, when hiking, I’ll see something incredible, and when I go to capture it in a photo, it just doesn’t come out the same.

Those vistas are allllll for me

CantaloupeAss,

The photo will never replicate the experience, but you can use it as a cue to go back to that place in your mind!

Blapoo,

Agreed. Partially. I find myself looking back at pics and experiencing something much different.

Similarly, I can retrace a route again and see things I completely missed before. Memory is fun :)

bernieecclestoned, to memes in Does it not pierce thine very heart?

They’re crying because of the comma

guyrocket, to memes in Does it not pierce thine very heart?
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Feels like we're doing our best to make up for that now with pics and video from almost everyone on the planet hitting the interwebs.

I pity the historian that has to try to dig through all of it.

ThunderingJerboa,
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Depends. In some ways you are correct but in other ways not so much. We like to think in the digital age once its up, its up forever. In theory yes but in some ways no since we have already seen in recent memory. Hell the popularity of lemmy and the fedeverse was kicked off because many of us left reddit, lead to many of us basically deleting/editing our prior comments. Someone can possibly have a snapshot of it but the chances of it are pretty small for some weird random obscure post on a forum. Our reliance on free services can easily lead to something disappearing as easily as it appeared. Hell we are seeing some youtube videos basically disappearing over fears of Ai scraping and it can happen abruptly.

ShaggySnacks,

Not only that; websites get deleted, servers can fail, data can be corrupted, business toss out memory storage when going out business, etc.

Nothing in the digital lasts.

HikingVet,

That’s if it survives. Entropy has a go at everything.

filcuk,

Funny how some older media are so much better for longevity, like CDs.
And the expected lifespan is still only 50-100 years.
That’s a speck of sand it the human history.

dingus,
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Tape disk drives and tapes are actually some of the longest lasting, when stored properly. Tape isn’t great for active data needs, where you need to read/write the data regularly. Super slow for that. But it’s killer for writing once and then dropping it in storage.

Anyway, same thing with tapes, the length of time they last is a fraction of history, on top of needing proprietary hardware to play them.

For example, there was that recently unearthed pilot of a sketch comedy show from Monty Python’s Graham Chapman and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’s Douglas Adams. It’s not particularly great, but it was lost to time except for a copy that Chapman had recorded to tape when the show first aired.

Problem was, that tape was so old when it was discovered, it pre-dated VHS and Betamax and was in a format that literally no players existed for anymore. This lead to a long effort to rebuild a player from scratch, which they eventually succeeded, and now it lives on YouTube for weird comedy nerd historians.

Anyway, the point being is that the mediums are short-term storage, for all intents and purposes, and that pretty much goes for all types of media humans uses, going as far back as stone tablets and books. The ones that survived were lucky and most are lost to time due to destruction or environmental degradation. At least with stone tablets and paper all you needed was to understand the language it was written in. Now we’re going to need electricity and knowledge of historical data storage practices and technologies.

So, we’re always losing history, and people who go out of their way to preserve history and put it in modern formats to attempt to keep the data from disappearing forever are doing a service to future human history. I would say, in this way, pirates who remove DRM from media are taking part in an act of historical preservation.

whofearsthenight,

Yeah, I think as long as we can count on some level of society, we have a shot at longer term preservation. Like, computers will continue to get faster, and mediums will continue to get upgraded and transferred and so forth, and we’re kind of already at a point where nothing recorded today needs to be “lost” with some careful planning. There are obvious holes in this, but it’s increasingly less likely to be a problem that the storage medium is the issue (again, caveating that we’re not talking about rebuilding society after a catastrophe or something) and more a problem with what the dependency of reading the data to be saved is, whether it’s transferred on storage formats that maintain data integrity, etc.

Like, we can do redundant backups and so forth, but what if the things we’re backing up are server dependent? Or even simpler shit like Flash games. I really hope that more people writing software especially think about how to keep it usable for a long time.

norgur, to memes in It means no worries!
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That warthog doesn’t look too worried, does it?

intelati,

It’s still in the shock phase. “Uhh, what now”

FreshLight,

It just goes with the flow, man

someguy3,

Floating wherever life takes you.

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