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cmbabul, to memes in It can't be stopped

This will be 7 one day

Hotzilla, (edited )

I don’t think so, main reason is XP was still heavily backwards compatible to 95, 98, even DOS based software. Many control software for industry only support to XP, because jump to windows 7 was too heavy. If anything supports windows 7, it is really easy to port to windows 10. Main reason is the driver support, because win 7 having new driver architecture.

Windows 10 will be the next “forever stuck” OS, because end of Internet Explorer on it means that there are tens of thousands of industrial software that require IE, and cannot ever be ported to win 11.

AlexWIWA,

Yup, same reason modern games all get ports but some old ones never will. Everything has the same architecture now so it’s easy to port an Xbone game to W10 and the new Xboxes.

CodyCannoli, to memes in It can't be stopped

A lot of public infrastructure in the US (powerplants, waste management, etc.) runs off XP or older.

averagedrunk,

Not as prevalent these days, but a lot of EMR/EHR was built on XP. Some of those companies went out of business and the clinics using the software never upgraded because they couldn’t get the data out into another system.

bighatchester, to lemmyshitpost in Stay hydrated

What if I don’t sleep with a iron next to my bed . Should I drink my lava lamp ?

runswithjedi,

I saw something the other day where drinking lava cures Covid so this checks out.

InEnduringGrowStrong, (edited )
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can just call the ranger with the big iron on his hip.

chulo_sinhatche,

Marty Robbins reference out of nowhere!?

Upvote.

LazaroFilm, to memes in It can't be stopped
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

After XP, Windows focused on adding crap to their aid that use unnecessary resources for crap things. I remember the Aqua look on Vista that sucked the life out of computers. Let’s not talk about Windows Me. Then 8 was a weird interface that no one liked and also not compatible with older machines. So XP is the most stable Windows os that can run on older devices.

scottywh,

ME came before XP

TopShelfVanilla,

XP was a pretty good running OS with plenty of software and games. I held out till 10 was out for a bit and there were programs I wanted to run that required it.

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

XP still had the designed-by-engineers vibe. Since then, Microsoft got completely taken over by dipshits with marketing MBAs.

They now code Windows to impress executives and shareholders with how much they can harvest data and manipulate customers into using their stupid Store and so on. They stopped caring about the experiences of power users, or even casual users.

They don’t want the OS to work for us. They want us to work for them.

KingBoo,

Very well said.

Do you have any suggestions for people wanting to go back to an XP feeling?

A particular distro of Linux, etc.?

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Zorin OS is a linux distro designed partly to feel like Windows

KillerTofu,

Mint is the usual recommendation for transitioning from windows to Linux.

Dhar,

I’ll second this. Start with Mint or Pop!_OS

JDPoZ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

I know you said Linux, but for anyone else here wanting to still use what at its core is still Windows, but with tons of garbage and bloat removed… as long as you have a valid serial / key… I would recommend AtlasOS.

I did a clean install of it on my own old ancient desktop i7-2600K recently, and it actually still runs really well.

Don’t take my word for it though. Here’s a video talking about it. Also here’s the YouTube link if you prefer.

brbposting,

Britec09 from the video there is quite skeptical - sounds like he prefers ShutUp10. With Atlas, he worries about large security impacts for small FPS gains.

Good watch, thank you!

gaterush, (edited )

I second the recommendation of giving Linux Mint a shot. I didn’t use XP extensively but Mint is low hassle and gets out of your way.

I’m not sure it has quite the same feel, but closest I can think of that is also approachable coming from Windows. Obviously a lot of other distros also satisfy the “built by engineers” vibe.

OscarRobin,

Linux Mint is definitely the closest interface- and vibes-wise to XP imo, of the big distros worth considering

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

I have a lot of respect for Linux and use it here and there, but I am by no means an expert on it. The best thing I’ve done with it so far is running a Pi Hole at home.

Unfortunately, my job involves using MS Windows. A lot. After I retire…soonish…I hope to take some time and learn Linux better.

For my day-to-day Windows misery, I find that ShutUp10 does a great job of toggling off the bullshit you don’t want running. And it’s easy to toggle things back on if you ever need to. It’s a free program you can download and run. I send them a little money every year out of gratitude, but donations are completely optional.

Some FUD mongers will tell you that ShutUp10 ‘breaks’ Windows. That’s simply not true. It puts all the Windows settings you can change yourself in one easy-to-find place. Things that are normally scattered all over the UX and the registry.

While you could mess some things up using it if you’re not careful, it’s very good about color coding and letting you know which toggles are best to turn off, which ones are a little questionable, and which ones you should leave turned on (unless you know what you’re doing and can take the risk). I have used it for years now, on multiple PCs, with zero problems. It doesn’t make Windows 10/11 GOOD but it makes them less horrible.

www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Though enshittification was coined, I think, with online services in mind, this is a perfect example of the process as it applies to an OS.

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Completely agree. For some reason that word tends to trigger a few gatekeepers on here. But I think it fits.

Emerald, (edited )

The enshittification of windows is because of its online services. Copilot AI, “telemetry”, ads, etc.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

To be fair, vista and 7 had a lot of QOL improvements too.

I dont see the point of 10+ though, they pretty much just added fluff.

LazaroFilm,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

They had QOL but I remember my machines running significantly slower. And that was not worth the extra QOL.

MeatsOfRage,

Don’t forget about Windows 7. That boy ripped. Too bad they didn’t take the good lessons from it.

moshtradamus666, to memes in It can't be stopped

XP was great but for me 7 was the sweet spot.

deus,

That Frutiger Aero aesthetic they had going on there felt so futuristic.

AlexWIWA,

It still looks good on modern resolutions tbh.

AngryishHumanoid,

I still use 7 in most of my home VM setups.

Kostyeah,

I think a lot of it has to do with age. I’m probably younger than the average Lemmy user, and for me Windows 10 is the sweet spot. The older versions just feel outdated. I think it depends on the first version we seriously used and learned on.

YeeterPan,

I mean… no shit, dude.

OpenStars, to comicstrips in Decentralized [Work Chronicles]
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

You aren’t supposed to actually listen to what they say, just make them feel good about being bossy, even especially when they fail to earn respect.

Stamets, to memes in It can't be stopped
@Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

I liked Vista.

There. I said it.

UntouchedWagons,
@UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca avatar

Same. I had no issues with Vista at all.

tiramichu, (edited )

Vista was fine, apart from the performance. I had a fairly beefy machine for the time so I hardly noticed, but on lower spec machines it was an absolute dog.

Kinda felt like an unoptimised prerelease version of Windows 7

Telodzrum,

Vista Service Pack 2 was a solid OS, XP actually needed a few service packs to get fully to the place people remember it being great.

devfuuu,

Well I also liked Millennium a lot.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Just when you think you know a guy…

marine_mustang, to memes in It can't be stopped

When I was working security for a hospital they wanted to send imagery from an MRI (or maybe CAT, I forget) upstairs to be interpreted without allowing any network traffic to be able to reach the host machine because it was running XP. I asked why, and they told me that in order to replace it the vendor was requiring a $7 million replacement of the whole MRI.

AlexWIWA,

Same shit is starting to happen with cars. No way to get the new headunits without replacing the whole car. I know Porsche offers electronic upgrade kits, but I can’t think of any others that do.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

I’ve worked in hospitals that still run DOS based programs for certain things. It’s madness.

obinice, to risa in Someone once told me that time was a predator that stalked us all our lives.
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

Time is the fire in which we burn.

I think about that a lot.

JackbyDev, (edited ) to memes in You're tearing me apart!

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alienanimals, to comicstrips in Decentralized [Work Chronicles]

You should do everything you can to get people like this fired.

rockSlayer, to lemmyshitpost in When your crush walks into class but you're homeschooled...

Too bad that traitor rag ruins a beautiful red dress

silasmariner,

I don’t know if ‘traitor’ is really the right term for separatists… I mean, it’s a hard spot, right? You’re betraying someone one way or another whichever side you choose

itsnicodegallo,

Read any of the States’ Declarations of Secession, and you’ll see how the Confederacy betrayed humanity with that racist garbage. I would literally get banned if I copied and pasted what they say.

rockSlayer,

I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the Southern Confederacy. They left the union because they wanted to expand the enslavement of people. That’s not just the leaders either, soldiers in the Confederacy made it crystal clear in their diaries and letters that they would rather die than be equal with a black person. They fired first, and they had no right to leave the union under any circumstances. They were traitors.

Rivalarrival,

they had no right to leave the union under any circumstances.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on every other part, but that particular sentiment is rather disturbing. The particular reason they gave was not an acceptable justification for leaving the union, but the idea that they have no such right at all is extraordinarily problematic.

I mention this because we are a year away from a scenario where several states may determine that a particular candidate is unqualified to even run, let alone win the presidential election. We may very well find ourselves in a situation where half the country recognizes one person as president, while the other half recognizes a different person.

The idea that the states representing the majority of We The People should not be allowed to dissociate from a self-described dictator is a big fucking problem.

The union is only valid so long as we have the right to leave it.

silasmariner,

Thanks for this, very much captured what I was thinking but you used words betterer

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

also ruins a young girl full of potential

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

Potential is what she calls her brother.

humorlessrepost, to lemmyshitpost in When your crush walks into class but you're homeschooled...

When your football coach just retired

tdawg, to memes in It can't be stopped

I guinely hate windows as a product. But man XP was a banger for it’s time

hughesdikus,

Windows has its ups.

The only problem people should have with it is that it’s on 70% of ALL desktops which is about half a billion too many.

A fair competition should be there. Linux, Mac and Windows should have around 33% market share in an ideal world.

You may count whatever Google is doing or Samsung/Huawei can do as separate in a dream world.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

As usual I think that sentiment was retroactive, certainly once Vista came out. At launch, people hated the Fisher-Price look of the Luna default UI. Like, a lot. The switch to the NT based kernel for the home version of Windows also caused a shitton of people’s hardware and peripherals not to work anymore because they needed new drivers and the manufacturers of said gadgets – if they were still in business – could not be arsed. Some of this could be alleviated by bullying that hardware’s Windows 2000 drivers into working with XP. Some of it could not.

Anticorp,

I liked XP in its own era, it’s not just nostalgia. Although computers and the Internet in general were very exciting to me back then.

Emerald, (edited )

They should’ve just used the Silver theme instead of blue luna. Unless it didn’t exist on launch.

corsicanguppy, to memes in It can't be stopped

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