This isn’t new, interesting or noval information. If you run whats app from the desktop app or from web.WhatsApp.com on you’re browser on a PC then no shit they know your on your PC
Why does it matter if the people I’m chatting with know if in onnmy PC?
I see the issue. The issue is that you seemingly did not bother to read the link. Since that is not what is being discussed. It is not that you cannot tell whether someone is using a PC or a phone, but rather which PC or phone or peripheral you are using if you have number of them. Your point has literally nothing to do with the post.
“Be’ery wrote in his blog post explaining the data leak that it is a consequence of the way WhatsApp is designed: When someone sends a message to another WhatsApp user, their device creates a different session key for each device the receiver is using, thus telling the sender how many devices the receiver is using.”
“Am I so out of touch? No… It’s the audience that are wrong”
I haven’t been to a traditional cinema in about 5 years. Home theatres are much better value. Can pause and rewind for bathroom breaks, don’t have to wear pants, can drink and eat anything I want. I don’t have to contend with people incessantly talking throughout the movie, there are no bored kids kicking seats and crying, I don’t have to pay for parking, and I can start and stop the film whenever my company and I want to.
I was excited when Disney+ started offering premiers at home. Them removing them wasn’t “training me”, I’m a patient person and I’m happy to wait to have my movie experience the way I want it when I want it.
Biggest example for me was waiting ~10 years to play Heavy Rain. I never owned a PS3 so I knew I’d have to either wait for a PC release (which I honestly thought would never be a thing after a while), or wait until I had a powerful enough PC to emulate it.
I don’t need to consume any media so desperately I can’t wait until it’s more convenient for me. I’ll be quite happy in the corner with some popcorn watching the inevitable shit show that will be GTA VI. I can’t wait for the neglected single player experience in favour of online cash grabs! I’ll pick it up on the cheap later on, thanks.
Well said. The disadvantages of going to the cinema far outweigh having to wait a few months to watch a movie at home. The studios should be leaning into this trend, not kicking and screaming that people aren’t going to the cinemas without fixing any of the downsides.
Everybody will undergo significant layoffs in 2024.
FTFY.
They are done making bank on the pandemic benefits (during which they cried the whole time they were broke, and hired a record number of people)… now debt is expensive so time to socialize some losses.
This is a security feature to let you know that the sender may be an imposter, right? Like matrix’s verified sessions, if my friend gets a new phone or pc it’s unverified and I have to verify the new session through another means, like in person or phone.
This is infuriating, at this point I get several notifications a year about someone hacking my data. But every time I dont have a choice but to keep give data to the same companies . fucking hell
Its a hell of a thing reading this and finding out this way. They knew in October. They knew more in November. They finally say something in December, but I have yet to receive any communication from them acknowledging the breach. Thanks Comcast. You somehow suck and blow at the same time.
Damn, companies were using Citrix because remote desktop companies were iffy and AWS/screenshare companies like zoom and TeamViewer weren’t “enterprise-y” enough.
Actually it does not, sadly. I’ve used it for years (probably five or even more) and ditched it couple months ago when I got angry at it. The main problem is I could not force it to accept MMS on newer android (used to work on my old phone IIRC) which is crucial for my work - because voice mail gets delivered as MMS in my country. Every time I got work phone call that I missed meant voice mail that never got delivered. I got notification that I have MMS, and that I need to allow them, but that’s it. Everything was allowed in the app and in the systsm, still no MMS.
Same. I've been supporting it for some years now, but I'm upping the ante. I have many friends, family, and business associates I've been able to get on Signal. It's a super useful app, and a crucial privacy service. Let's do what we can to keep it going.
Umm, doesn't one have to backup anything one wants to save/ have access to in the future? Aren't upgrades a thing will all software? I'm not sure how this is different for Signal versus any other messaging app. Or any app / client that produces documents, etc?
The process is a bit involved on mobile. Setting up a backup location, using a third party app to sync updates and deletions etc. It could be simplified by integrating with common cloud storage services (the encrypted file)
Also iOS doesn’t have backups at all last I checked. If you lose your phone the messages are toast
Well sure, but encrypted backups are still secure. What’s not secure (or private rather) is someone realizing they can’t have a backup of important chats and going back to Facebook Messenger.
Backups are a thing on Android, and they’re planned for iOS. It just hasn’t happened yet. People can choose what they want to backup and when they want disappearing messages turned on.
does anyone know roughly how much operating costs could be per person? I'd like to donate, but I don't have a whole lot of money. I'd like to at least ensure that I'm covering "my share" so to speak
Signal had 40 million active users in 2021. With 14 million in infra cost, that comes to .35 per user/year. Total expenses are about 33 million, so about .825 per user/year. All in all that seems very reasonable.
Bit difficult to keep using it since they killed sms interoperability. I understand the security concerns but if no one uses it, doesn’t really matter does it.
If you were using Signal just for SMS, none of your messages were secure anyway since the SMS protocol itself is not–defeating the purpose of signal. And if you had already convinced people to install Signal by using SMS as a caveat, you can just continue contacting them through the app.
I was able to convince pretty much everyone who matter in my life to install Signal and they all love it because WhatsApp has become too cluttered and spammy.
I can’t get anyone to use it. They should market it as a workaround for the Android/iPhone/PC messaging issues with privacy and security as a bonus, but I don’t know if iPhone users would go for it.
iPhone user and monthly signal donor here. Have been using it since it was available for signal. Have managed to get everyone I care about to install and use it.
I basically made it the only way to message me and get my attention.
I’m not that special, I just care about my friends and I think they might like me enough to do this one thing for me. At least they know they can cut me out of their lives by uninstalling signal.
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