I never understand this shit. Like even if you have absolutely no morals, you’re Vin Diesel. You can pretty much have consensual sex whenever you want to. Why do you have to resort to assaulting people?
This right here. Rape is not about arousal, it’s about power. I highly recommend Roy Hazelwood’s books on the matter if anyone, like me, has a morbid curiosity about why people commit certain violent crimes.
My uneducated guess would be that if you can have “normal” women at any time you want; or more generally have any needs met at any time because you are rich and famous, the things you cant have are much more appealing. A “no” or “not for sale” becomes “you don’t offer enough yet”.
Well if they did plagiarize some independent’s fanfiction, and they can get away with that, it really limits the remedies for independent writers when their unpaid for script drafts end up being used for storylines.
But creativity is hard and risky. Can I interest you in a milquetoast film written by committee instead? I promise it was made with almost no planning or preparation and rushed out the door.
Interesting to see the general negative impressions contrasted with the other column here saying how great it is.
I’m still deciding whether to see it in theaters - I’m a huge fan of the Marvel universe and still want more superhero movies. Iman Vellani does a great job with an excellent character, and I loved how the story connected with her culture. Fantastic. However Captain Marvel was pretty much a non-entity and we had no idea who Monica Rambeau will be yet - I hope the movie gave some much needed character development
I have to agree, I hated Avatar 2 (liked the first one) and the theater experience made it 100 times worse. I went with an old friend that I havent seen in years, and a young guy in line behind us kept asking us if we were gay… like literally 20 times, he was completely obsessed with it to the point of harassment. I will NEVER go to a theater again, ever.
Until I can spend many thousands of dollars on a home theater room it will be an inferior experience to going out. I don’t need to pause to make snacks, or put captions on, or whatever. I’m happy to pay fifteen dollars for the occasional ticket and then fifteen more for eight cents worth of soda and popcorn loaded with salt and butter-flavored-oil because I know theaters don’t see a pock of the ticket money.
I want a comfy recliner, a giant screen, outrageous sound volume, and two hours of uninterrupted movie. The places I usually go to are clean, I’ve never had a problem with rude patrons (the occasional restless child at family movies, sure), and I feel like I get good entertainment for the money. It’s not a weekly thing, maybe monthly.
My local theater is packed almost every night of the week. There were flocks of entire families with kids dressed up in costumes to see both Mario and Barbie. I traveled an hour to see Oppenheimer in proper IMAX and there wasn’t an empty seat in the house. Theaters definitely are not dead.
It can be very well executed, but that doesn’t change that it’s a movie nobody really asked for. Unless there is demand to see it then it doesn’t matter how well done it is. And endorcements of “it’s actually good despite expectations” doesn’t really generate a lot of excitement either.
I am also a huge Marvel fan and I saw it Thursday night in a packed theater. My opinion is that all the pieces of one of the best Marvel movies are there, and just weren’t put together properly. The leads have great chemistry, Iman Vellani is brilliant as always, the main plot point makes for unique and interesting fight scenes, and they let it get goofy in just the right ways (princesses and kittens, that’s all I’m saying.)
But the overall pacing of the entire movie is SO bad. It feels so rushed. None of the fun or poignant things that are legitimately good are allowed to hang around on screen long enough to sink in. There are important plot points that move so fast they leave you wondering what just happened. Which is so disappointing. I was really excited that this might be the one that finally got Marvel out of their pandemic-induced production problems. Instead it’s just another Marvel movie that I’ll only see once.
I felt the same same way. It felt like all of these important parts of the plotline were skipped or got 1 line explanations. A lot of the emotional parts got about 5 to 10 seconds of screen time before moving on to the next part.
SpoilerCan someone explain how a giant intelligence kept the air and water on a planet from floating away and made sure the sun kept burning?
Yeah that whole thing was glossed over. I don’t think it’s much of a spoiler, but it was the civil war that happened after the Supreme Intelligence was destroyed that decimated the environment. But no explanation how or why that led to the star being too dim. And the thing that was set up as the next big battle at the end of CM1 (destroying the Supreme Intelligence) happened off screen between the movies. It was just so frustrating
If you are a big marvel fan then go see it. It is not a great MCU film but it is also not bad. You will get some good laughs and fight scenes and get some mild emotional moments. I enjoyed it in theaters, but recognize that it is not as good as say GOTG3 or Spiderman NWH.
What I don’t really like is people telling me I shouldn’t let myself be swayed by critics and should watch it and make up my own mind.
That’s stupid. I’m reading the reviews to decide if I wanna watch it or not. I don’t wanna spend my money and a couple hours of my life to decide if it was worth it if some people whose judgement I’ve trusted in the past tell me it’s gonna be trash.
Don’t get swayed specifically by critics. I swear most critics in the film and video game industry have the weirdest takes ever, while they should represent an average joe. There have been many movies which have been obliterated by critics, which have been quite popular and fun, as well as many awful movies, which have been praised by critics.
The gap between critics and audiences has never been wider. The Last Jedi had an audience score of 42% on Rotten Tomatoes, while critics scored it 91%. It raises the question: what exactly is the purpose of critics? They used to exist to tell regular people if they’d like movies. That’s clearly no longer their goal. I’ve given up on critic scores entirely. I use IMDB ratings, even though Amazon has been caught deleting negative ratings about The Rings of Power.
Rotten Tomatoes scores are highly suspect now and especially can’t be trusted with Disney properties. The guy who runs it literally used to be a Disney Digital exec.
I have a rule. You get 3 movies of a thing and then I stop paying attention. Marvel, star wars, fast and furious, I don’t care, 3 of the “same” story and I’m out.
Do you know for a fact that it’s bad? Have you seen it? Or are you just making an assumption because it has low box office figures which you are extrapolating as meaning it’s a bad movie? It’s rated above a 6 on IMDB and above 60% on Rotten Tomatoes, so it sounds like a lot of people enjoyed it.
Based on the non-response from the person above, I’m guessing they haven’t seen it either. Most Marvel movies are mixed in terms of reception, and some men, whether they claim it has nothing to do with gender or not, will not go see a superhero movie where women are the heroes. They don’t even hate the idea, they just don’t see “woman movies.” There are an unfortunately large number of men who feel that way.
But then, despite all of the people, all seemingly male, who told me that She-Hulk was terrible and it wasn’t about gender, I thought it was terrific. So what do I know?
Hey you get my upvote. I had a blast with She-Hulk. A lot of Marvel is uneven but enjoyable. I like how, even after the show called out big CGI battles, Marvel still pumped out big CGI battles. Was wildly self-aware and yet… here we are!
I mean, i have been seeing the same damn trailer for it before every movie i’ve seen in theaters for months, and I still didnt realize it was coming out now.
It was a legitimately awful movie. If you asked chatgpt to make you a superhero movie for teen girls and the plot didn’t matter, this is what it would be. I’m hoping that’s the audience they’re trying to pull into the giant universe, because everyone else is going to be left underwhelmed.
Other diagnostics on The Marvels: 65% male leaning, with 45% men over 25, 22% women over 25 (giving it the best grades at 82%), men under 25 at 20%, and women under 25 at 14%.
I think this highlights the issue well. Marvel continues to be popular with primarily men. Disney has tried desperately to attract women by killing off popular male characters and introducing young women. Unfortunately all they’ve achieved is mostly just alienating men. I’ve given up on Marvel entirely.
Going to see it this afternoon with the whole family. Looks like a good time. I’m glad that Kamala is a big part of it. The Mutant saga will likely be where box office reinvigorates. Having her be such a key figure in the early explorations of the X-Men is a perfect introduction. She could definitely be the Jubilee type character for the X-Men saga. If she heads to Xaviers school after Deadpool 3 id lose my mind.
Edit: I just finished the movie. Family had a lot of fun watching. Dynamic between the characters was good. Story actually progressed some of the MCUs overarching plot of incursions. I didn’t expect the post credit scene to bring in what it did, but I goes along with what I was hoping. If you are reluctant about seeing it, go to the adult parlor and have a drink. It’s worth a beverage and the ticket price. More Kamala is on the way and I’m hyped.
I saw the movie a few days ago and while I didn't think it was bad, I'll admit the script is a mess. Some parts are a little hard to follow or poorly explained. Someone either got a bit lazy with the writing or did a poor job cutting it all together.
It will be interesting to see how the post-strike/pandemic era of the MCU plays out. The 2007 strike made for like 5 years of shit movies. The pandemic and this strike were significantly longer and had a much higher toll on every level of movie making. I don’t harp to much on scripts from serialized content, but I do imagine it will get better in time for the X-Men and Fantastic era of the MCU.
It feels like an editing issue. The film was fast paced and a lot of scenes just ask you to assume that they make sense. In truth they probably do, but they need a little bit of explanation.
Let’s talk Flerkins for example. Early in the film Goose eats some bad guys, teleports to Kamala’s living room, then spits them out. No one really comments on it. No one found it weird. We just defeat the bad guys and move on.
Next Goose spits up some science equipment. We learn that they’ve been missing for a while. They look fine but no one mentions that they still work, or we’re otherwise still preserved.
Finally we have the musical Memory scene. Ignore for a moment the eggs that hatched. Ignoring for a moment it happens when they’ve run out escape pods. We have “kittens”, we’ve established that Flerkins can eat people and they can hold what they’ve eaten for a while. So while the solution makes sense, and on paper they’ve earned the moment, it takes a moment to really put it all together. As a result it feels rushed and instead of just enjoying the scene you’re left wondering if it makes sense.
We’re only talking about cutting a few minutes here and a few minutes there, but it adds up.
Yes cause new ideas are risky and scary to the executives. Oh no, a new concept might not rake in buckets of nostalgia money. Can’t risk people not liking something new, let’s regurgitate every possible franchise and property in the pursuit of unending growth of the box office revenue.
They love to blame flops like this on things like feminism, but generally it’s just because Disney has no idea what they are doing anymore after killing off the A-listers and then releasing nothing but wet farts for the last five years.
Yeah, I feel like Avengers: Endgame was an ending for the MCU. I’m not complaining, because a good story needs to have an ending, but I’m also not motivated to see superhero movies coming out after Endgame (at least not cosmic-scale superhero movies - I’ll always have a soft spot for Peter Parker).
That and they’ve oversaturated the market and made it hard for non fans to keep up. When you have to watch 2 5-8 hour Disney plus shows just to understand who the characters are in the movie (Maria Rambeau and Kamala Khan) then Disney as a company is probably doing something wrong. Comic people might love it but everyday joes not so much.
Yep. In order to understand this film, you have to have watched the Captain Marvel film, the Wandavision TV series and the Ms. Marvel TV series. Meaning this is basically a way to tie you down to Disney+ so you don’t miss out.
Yeah it’s like the films are kind of safe cash grabs, but then they also have this barrier to entry. Even as a fan of marvel I couldn’t finish all the mini series because some of them just don’t grab me, and then what?
They’ve made it hard for even the die hard fans to keep up.
One of the major reasons I never liked comic books was there was always a hundred different storylines going on. That’s now crept into the MCU and it’s just no longer fun to try to keep up with
Not to mention how expensive it is to go to the movies! For us, this has less to do with how medium the marvel movies have been and more that a single ticket is a month of a streaming service and I already cut all our streaming services. If I decide to splurge, it’s going to be on a month of content, not two hours.
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