I think the platforming zeitgeist has shifted to 2D.
Metroid Dread, Hollow Knight, Mario Wonder, Shovel Knight.
But 3D platforming is still alive as a genre.
Mario Odyssey, Sonic Frontiers, Yooka-Laylee.
And the remake scene for 3D is popping off right now.
Crash, Spyro, Ratchet, Mario 3D All Stars, Metroid Prime Remastered.
Specifically for the subgenre of 3D third-person platform-shooters, check out Splatoon 3. For 3D first-person open-world platform-shooters, Metroid Prime 4 is in development.
But for “3D open world third-person platform-shooter,” that genre is essentially Ratchet & Clank. But these days I think Insomniac is busy with Spider-Man. You can maybe count Jak in there, but Naughty Dog hasn’t touched that franchise in ages.
I think the take away is that each franchise has it’s own niche. What you’ve described is so specific that you’re really just talking about Ratchet. Open your requirements a bit more, and you’ll find plenty of great, new platforming experiences.
Also, if you think there’s untapped potential, I encourage you to make something! Unity is actually pretty easy to use.
If I could make games, I would definitely be making a Ratchet & Jak styled game, some kind of 3rd person shooter-platformer with detailed environments. But I just don’t understand why big studios don’t jump on the opportunity, instead the Jak franchise is dead (or dormant, still hoping for a return) and they only make Ratchet games occasionally, and no one seems to even attempt to make an original IP like those games despite their success and appeal and huge potential in next gen. It’s mind boggling
A Hat in Time is an example. I really don’t enjoy that game. Idk why. But Yooka Laylee sucks as well. Pretty much every one just isn’t good. The graphics aren’t realistic or gritty like Ratchet, Jak and Sly for example, the worlds are empty or unexpansive. The combat is lacking. I could go on
You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if you don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.
From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there never was.
Like unless PS2 somehow had literally all of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also extremely cartoony...
Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon
Like I'm basically trying to say more games in the platformer genre were cartoony than not throughout 3D platformer history and we need more examples of what you really mean
But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.
edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB
Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
There seems to be one or two specific platformers that you loved and you using that(those) specific game(s) to state that PS2 3D platformers were generally great and universally better than today’s platformers. One does not follow the other.
And you are taking your personal preference for a very specific art style and using it as your justification for calling these platformers “objectively superior”. You keep telling people to “prove” you wrong but no matter how many specific examples people give you, you are very strongly objecting based on your subjective preferences. We cant prove you out of your own particular desire for a particular game.
I’m quitting Prime this month; on top of being twice as expensive as the rest, the greedy mf-ers are adding commercials with a price hike if you want no commercials. Also quitting Disney+ and Hulu for lack of content and lack of funds. I’ll be quitting Netflix next. I quit Paramount+ a few months ago now that I’m all caught up on watching all the Star Trek series.
Netflix and Disney+ are the only two left. I used to also have Amazon Prime and Spotify but I was able to cut out Prime early last year and just within the last few weeks I cut out Spotify after using it continuously since 2009.
I’m trying to de-stream my media, and I would very much like to own the actual files legitimately instead but I think everything is so reliant on streaming these days it can be really difficult to buy DRM-free movies or TV shows. For music I get it from Bandcamp, so I am very appreciative of that. What can’t be acquired legitimately… cough
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