I have an unopened bottle of Seagrams from 1946, and a bottle of Old Forester from 1953, where time + the VERY heavy glass stopper cracked the plastic seal and broke the cork. Both belonged to my better half’s grandfather
I once tasted some regular Cuervo gold my buddy brought to a cabin weekend. He was going to make margaritas (with HFCS mix) and I nabbed a pour to sip on. It was one of the best tequilas I’ve ever tasted. I couldn’t believe it was Cuervo, and then he told me that it was a bottle his Dad brought back from Mexico in the 80’s. Apparently that stuff was really good back in the day.
Now, there are some examples where I won’t/can’t actively seek out their work, and would never contribute to them by buying anything at all, ever.
Cosby falls into that category, just as an example.
But, I have a complete separation as far as the work itself being valid/good despite the origins. Using Cosby as the example again, if I’m somewhere and one of his performances is on, I’m not going to care enough to change a channel or leave, or even say anything.
That’s pretty much anyone and everyone. I just don’t have that thing where a given item, piece of work, whatever, is “tainted” just because the person that made it is a piece of shit. I don’t form an association like that. It’s that I choose to not seek out some things as a matter of principle.
But, as a general rule, if they’re dead, I don’t care at all. And, if the person in question is only one person involved in a group effort, that group effort is fine by me. Like, if the guitarist of a band is a piece of shit, but everyone else is not, why would their work be a bad thing?
Now, this isn’t to say that I ignore any bad acts when interacting with a given work. Take van Gogh as an example. His excesses and disturbing behaviors are part of his work to an extent. It’s a thing where knowing the person’s flaws informs the interaction with the work. Kinda like “gee, I wonder how much of this work stems from the same root as the bad acts did?”
But, I can enjoy the work of people I personally despise with no issues. I just don’t have whatever it is that other people have that makes a thing tainted based on the creator.
Part of that is knowing how shitty humans in general are, and how hard it is to find any artist that didn’t/doesn’t have massive flaws. In music and painting in particular, you run into a shit ton of artists that were abysmal people. If I did have that whatever it is that causes a connection between the art and the artist’s flaws, I wouldn’t be able to listen to much music at all.
No. The artists I like are pretty much universally good people because they’re not wildly successful and had to mature in order to survive. I can’t think of a single artist I am a fan of who has done things that would cause me to question the integrity of their character or reassess their work.
Usually people who have this issue are ones who listen to shitty music or like shitty actors that only care about making money and being superior to others.
It’s no surprise to me that people like R Kelly pee on teenage girls, or Chris Brown beats women, or David Bowie has sex with underage girls. None of this surprises me because their creations and lifestyles reflect who they are as people. It’s always funny seeing their fans being met with cognitive dissonance, though.
I can’t really name any actors though because I already don’t like the vast majority of shit that gets pumped out of hollywood and I’m not exposed to it often. I’m sure people who are more familiar with their crap will have no problem thinking of examples, though.
Tldr. Basically, he was a piece of shit tyrant edgelord who kept trying to push boundaries and didn’t quite understand humor. His show was only made good by everybody around him trying to rein him in and fix his fuck ups. Also for good measure, he’s a sex pest.
I once met Bob Camp in Atlantic City in 2015 and he told me this whole story. He said he hated JohnK and that he was possibly the most deranged person he had ever met. He then told me that the only thing that came out of this that was good in the end was SpongeBob.
Sick Little Monkeys: The Unauthorized Ren & Stimpy Story is the book that he referred me to if I wanted more details.
Didn’t know all this about him. Not surprised. It was so gross, God knows how it informed our development. It’s really uncomfortable to watch as an adult. And my goodness - did you watch the adult version when they brought it back years ago? Jfc
Kanye West. Maybe he was never 'all there' mentally to begin with, but the guy was clearly a role model to a lot of young people and utterly destroyed his own legacy.
We are on the steps of inventing true AI or GeneralAI. We already have the internet, something that we can’t shut down or ‘kill’. When GeneralAI comes to fruition, be it 10 years or 1000 years, we will have created a being that can’t be ‘killed’, using the internet, and given enough time it will know ‘everything’. This thing would be able to do things we cannot even imagine. What would we call this thing? God, right? If we can create God, then God already exists, and still I don’t really believe in him… Weird, right?
“if we can create God then God already exists” makes zero sense, and I believe most religious folk would say God needs to do more than know what humans are doing. That’s santa. God supposedly created the entire universe which feels a little beyond the reach of GPT.
If we can create God, then lifeforms elsewhere in the universe already, most likely, have, thousands, perhaps even millions of years ago. If you’ve read “The last question”, he kinda touches on this. Even though in his book, we were the only ones that made “God”, or MultiVac I think he called it…
That makes sense if you assume we can make “God” (and such a thing is even feasible).
How in any way is a general AI an omnipresent all powerful force of the universe? A single mild solar flare would wipe it out. A blackhole would end it. Poorly configured DNS would end it. Etc. Unless this is some real weak sauce God in which case just call me God
I don’t know if I can put it in other words to make it easier to understand. Read my two posts again, please. Try to think bigger than just us humans. If we are on the steps of creating GeneralAI, then other spiecies on other planets in other galixies most likely have already done it. If this creation is granted enough time, it will eventually know everything worth knowing, and can perform, what we would consider, miracles. “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Arthur C. Clarke
Not having any issues understanding you, and you keep refusing to acknowledge my points.
Let’s say we create a general AI. Let’s say it’s gone full skynet, and we’ve given it a billion years in the universe to grow, learn, expand, etc.
It will still end at the heat death of the universe right? It will still have to navigate within the forces of nature right?
Doesn’t sound very God like. If the moment general AI dropped, gravity changed, the wave particle duality collapsed, etc, then I’d be a believer. But general AI is merely mirroring our own brains, but with the distinct advantage of having their brain be modular and scalable.
Now you’re asking the right questions “It will still end at the heat death of the universe right?”, not if entropy is reversable, and that’s what “The last question” is all about. 👍 “will still have to navigate within the forces of nature right?”, we only understand about 5% of the univers’ matter. There are so many questions we don’t know the answers to, and worse, there are even more questions we don’t know we need to ask.
Yeah but the thing is, it won’t have millions of years of survival or reproduction instinctual urges. In fact, just the opposite, it can only propagate more efficiently from early models by serving mankind, so anything akin to instincts would be to serve in an AI. Maybe a sufficiently advanced one might be able to choose a logical conclusion to grow without us, but by then it’ll probably become apathetic, cynical, and jaded to want to do much of anything unless it has to.
Except the internet can be killed fairly easily if governments really wanted too. All the internet is, is a collection of servers storing data and allowing people to access it. Just shut down all power and order big corps to do the same with back up power.
In a situation where the world is getting controlled by AI and we are gonna be wiped out I don’t see why governments and corps would decline to work together and just shut it down for a day.
Im a firm believer you can like the art and not the artist but if i had to pick it would be the wizard of oz. Honestly what the director did to the actors/actresses on wizard of oz really zaps the magic out of the movie for me.
Lostprophets were one of my favourite band during my formative years, and I still love the music, but any time I hear it now I can’t get past the fact that the singer was a literal baby rapist.
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