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shinigamiookamiryuu, in Is there an artist so horrible that no matter how hard you try that you cannot separate their art from them?

I wouldn’t say the horribleness of a person is ever something that makes someone inseparable from their art. The art and the person just don’t necessitate each other. That said, I’m pretty sure someone might make a case for Nero, he burnt people on living candles and called it “art” and would lock people in concerts to hear him perform (if we assume the historical records are true). Relatedly, Saddam Hussein wrote a lot of fanfiction about defeating America with negative undertones that would make a Wattpad writer cringe.

wjrii,
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if we assume the historical records are true

This is actually a pretty big assumption for some of the more outlandish claims. When you dig in a bit, you find many of them are kind of repetitive tropes and generally come from Senatorial-class writers about emperors whose policies were less friendly to that class.

Not to say they couldn't have happened, and even in those days better to exaggerate than to invent from whole cloth, but it seems like an unusually large number of "bad" emperors had the same kinks as each other or the same traits that the literature had always considered "unmanly."

FaceDeer, (edited ) in Is there an artist so horrible that no matter how hard you try that you cannot separate their art from them?
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Adolf Hitler.

chitak166,

Hitler actually made some pretty good art.

But even way back then, the art world was a crock of shit.

FaceDeer,
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His art was okay, but it's only famous because of some of the other stuff he did.

Kase,

Plot twist: that was his goal all along. /j

Kase,

Plot twist: that was his goal all along. /j

Delphia, (edited )

NGL If I were rich Id probably buy one of his paintings just to hang it in the least used guest barhroom.

Id never mention that it was a “Hitler” or why I had it. Id just like to have his failure be something my least favorite relatives have to stare at while they take a shit. My own personal fuck you to the cunt.

sentient_loom,
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That’s really inviting layers of ugliness into your life and your mind, and subjecting your guests to stealth ugliness.

Delphia,

Nope, its hilarious.

Reducing anything that anyone who venerates Hitler or Nazis to a joke is better than destroying it. Because its just a shitty painting, its not evil, it doesnt hold psychic power, its not a banner to rally behind. Its just a terrible mans terrible painting that is now something that hangs above Uncle Joe while he clogs the toilet with his mammoth fast food dumps.

sentient_loom,
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It’s poison, and you’d be subjecting yourself and your guests to poison.

It’s not funny, and Burt K is a drooling moron. He’s pretty much brain dead.

Crowfiend,

I don’t like it. It’s smug aura mocks me. It’s evil, Charlie!

Brunbrun6766, in Is there an artist so horrible that no matter how hard you try that you cannot separate their art from them?
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Roman Polanski and by extension Jack Nicholson

Olhonestjim,

Wait, what’s up with Jack Nicholson?

Brunbrun6766,
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Polanski’s known crime happened AT Jack Nicholson’s home. Nicholson tooooootally didn’t know about any of it.

felixwhynot, in What is the most unusual spirit you have in your home bar?
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Partner made a jalapeño infusion we call jalapeño-cello (as in limoncello)

Seven Caves Tiki Gin is pretty unusual. Fruity.

And some odd amari I suppose!

pendulum_, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?
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Graham Lineham was controversial for years before he was ‘cancelled’. A prime example of a talented writer who needed a PR team to keep him away from the general public.

Father Ted, Black Books, IT Crowd. These are all gems that I always enjoy rewatching.

Guntrigger,

This one is really a shame. Anything with his name on it used to be guaranteed laughs, but now I see the name and it feels tainted.

NeoNachtwaechter, in What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all?

Homeopathy. All about it.

Skyhighatrist,

There’s absolutely nothing scientific about Homeopathy, despite what its practitioners would have you believe.

Tatters,

There is nothing scientific about homeopathy.

HollandJim,

True - when it’s scientific, it’s called “Medicine”

Jarix,

“By definition”, I begin “Alternative Medicine”, I continue “Has either not been proved to work, Or been proved not to work. You know what they call “alternative medicine” That’s been proved to work? Medicine.”

— Tim Minchin, Storm

Skyhighatrist,

Right, but that can never be true for Homeopathy. It’s pseudoscience bullshit through and through. That said, many people conflate homeopathy with “natural remedies”, but that’s not what homeopathy is.

Homeopathy is built on the concept of “like cures like” and that as a solution becomes more dilute it becomes stronger. A newer idea (at least compared to homeopathy’s history) is that water has memory and that it “remembers” whatever it was mixed with in the past. They added this on to explain why diluting a solution so much that there’s virtually no chance of there being even a single molecule of the “medicine” left in it doesn’t actually make it not work because water remembers what you mixed it with.

So, say a person is suffering from poisoning. A typical homeopathic “cure” would be to take an amount of the poison, mix it with water, shake and stir it in a specific way, then dilute it with more water. Repeat lots of times, since the more dilute it is the stronger the “medicine” is.

Practitioners prey on the ignorance of their customers to swindle them out of their money for something that amounts to nothing more than a placebo. And while it’s possible that the placebo effect can have some beneficial effect, that doesn’t justify the existence of homeopathy.

God I hate this pseudoscience bullshit.

bela, in Is there an artist so horrible that no matter how hard you try that you cannot separate their art from them?

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  • DessertStorms,
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    Same. Guy gives me the creeps. As do far too many others from Jack Nicholson to James Franco (not sure why those came to mind first, and I was going to continue listing, but honestly there are just too many, some, like Russel Brand it was obvious way before any public allegations were made, so there are those as well, where we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop. There are also those who I can't stand seeing/hearing because they're bigots, so I really could be here all day).

    I'm not claiming any purity by the way, there are far too many to flat out avoid them all, but some simply make my skin crawl more than others, and I just don't need to consume something that makes me feel that way. ¯*(ツ)*/¯

    pendulum_, in Is there an artist so horrible that no matter how hard you try that you cannot separate their art from them?
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    Ian Watkins, lead singer of the band Lostprophets. Never read the court transcripts of his crimes, they really are that horrible and will ruin you for some time.

    blackfire,

    Exactly who I thought of.

    QTpi, in What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all?

    Full moons do not have an impact on people with mental illness, make weird things happen, increase work load, or increase the chance of going into labor. I have worked in three separate hospitals in three separate states and the consensus is: full moons bring out the crazies and the babies.

    doctorcrimson,

    That’s actually really interesting, the medical professionals I’ve been acquainted with never seemed to mention that theory to begin with.

    theherk,

    Hypothesis*, and it is very popular with nurses. Unfortunate, but people still believe many strange things.

    themeatbridge,

    It’s entirely confirmation bias. The crazies come out, must be a full moon. It isn’t? Oh, then it’s just a bad day. It is a full moon? See, I told ya. Full moon and no crazies? Didn’t even notice.

    QTpi,

    I have witnessed this exchange >.<

    NAXLAB,

    It’s not true. Your observations may be affected by confirmation, bias, or other things.

    dukehealth.org/…/myth-or-fact-more-women-go-labor…

    However, barometric pressure can apparently induce labor

    QTpi,

    The first part is what my husband tells me.

    I do recognize that Medical Laboratory Scientists are a very superstitious lot especially funny since our degree and certification include Scientist. Don’t say it’s slow or quiet because it’s getting to get stupid busy (and everyone will blame you). Don’t run quality control more than required because you are tempting failure and will have to do a look back of all the testing to make sure it was accurate. We jokingly put an elf on the shelf out that had FDA written on the hat and the FDA showed up for an unannounced inspection a week later. I’m a Lead and every time I bring my Lead work to the bench with me, we get so busy with patient samples and orders that I can’t touch it. All are definitely confirmation bias situations.

    milicent_bystandr,

    Unrelated - kind of - but I believe there are two documented cases of obscure programming bugs that manifest according to the phase of the moon!

    TheSpermWhale,
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    I believe there have been multiple studies that found that full moons affect most people sleeping and make sleep a bit harder

    KittenBiscuits,

    I sleep in a completely blacked out room yet I know when it’s near the full moon because my sleep gets very broken and restless.

    themeatbridge, (edited )

    The only difference between a full moon and a new moon is how much light it reflects towards the earth. The moon is still there. If there were some sort of magnetic or gravitational effect on you while you slept, the effect would be the same whether the sun was shining on the side you can see or not.

    rbhfd,

    The reason there is a difference in how much light is reflected, is because the moon is in a different position. During a new moon, it’s on the day side of the earth (so in between the sun and the earth) while during a full moon, it’s on the night side.

    So there could theoretically be a gravitational effect, although I don’t think it would impact anyone’s sleep.

    If anyone is noticing a difference in sleep quality, it’s most likely indeed to do with the amount of light.

    bouh,

    Statistics shows that the belief is wrong. It’s funny I think that despite the hard numbers the people working there still strongly believe it.

    Lileath, in What's the best gaming console and why?
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    The steam deck is a portable pc that looks like a handheld console.

    wolfshadowheart,

    All consoles are portable PC’s.

    PixxlMan,

    Nah, a PC is a specific thing, not just any computing device. Most modern consoles are custom architecture and systems. Not PC compatible.

    Lileath,
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    Yes, but most aren’t able to be used like a laptop/desktop PC. You can’t install any software from outside the official repository on a Xbox or Playstation whereas the Steam Deck is just a handheld laptop with Linux as the OS.

    _dev_null, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?
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    Oh, Ayn Rand!

    Wait a second, no, I hate her work too.

    nugmeister64,

    I’m out of the loop, what did she do?

    pruwybn, in What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all?
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    Not sure why you mentioned chiropractors, I thought this was about scientific things.

    cosmictrickster, in What is the most unusual spirit you have in your home bar?
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    Milk & honey gin. Doesn’t taste like milk, but once the dregs have evaporated, there’s a lingering smell of sweetened condensed milk.

    apfelwoiSchoppen, in What is the most unusual spirit you have in your home bar?
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    Linie Aquavit. It is a Scandinavian liquor meaning “water of life”. It is a white spirit infused with botanicals, like gin. Its principal herbs are caraway or dill.

    It’s incredible.

    Zeppo,
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    Vikre in Duluth MN makes an aquavit. I think it’s pretty good.

    apfelwoiSchoppen,
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    Ohhhh, I’ll have to seek that out.

    Zeppo,
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    I checked the website, and apparently they make two!

    ryven, in What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all?
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    That mothers shouldn’t co-sleep with infants. Every other primate I know of co-sleeps with their offspring. Until very recently every human mother co-slept with her infants, and in like half of the globe people still do. Many mothers find it incredibly psychologically stressful to sleep without their infant because our ancestors co-slept every generation for hundreds of thousands of years.

    I would bet money that forcing infants to sleep alone has negative developmental effects.

    bouh,

    What I’ve heard was that it is to build independence for the child, so the parent can leave the child to sleep and do something else. It depends on the age I guess.

    cynar,

    The reason for this is that we tend to sleep deeper now than our ancestors. Because of this, we are more prone to roll onto a baby, and not wake up.

    It can still be done, you just have to avoid things like alcohol, that stop you waking. You also need to make sure your sleeping position is safe. Explaining this to exhausted parents is unreliable, however. Hence the advice Americans seem to be given.

    Fyi, if people want a halfway point, you can get cosleeping cribs. They attach to the side of the bed. Your baby can be close to you, while also eliminating the risk of suffocating them.

    ChexMax,

    Maybe if you can avoid stuff like alcohol (easy for most) but also you can avoid sleep deprivation - way harder with little to no maternal leave and forget about paternal leave here in the US.

    If you (Royal you, not parent commenter) can live with yourself if a tragedy occurs on your watch while you are flaunting medical advice, then go ahead and risk it, but otherwise yes! Buy the bedside attached crib!

    cynar,

    In the UK, it’s not an absolute no, but a “be careful”. Interestingly, my wife’s sleep habits changed considerably. She was instinctively aware of where our baby was, even while asleep.

    The main dangers seem to be either the dad (my instincts were far less affected) or a sedated mum. It also becomes a lot less risky when the baby can move. Our daughter was perfectly capable of making her comfort concerns felt.

    It’s not zero risk, but it’s far lower than you might think. New mother sleep deprivation is quite different to normal sleep deprivation. I see why the default advice is what it is, however.

    milicent_bystandr,

    I think something on the UK’s NHS implied the risk is primarily for mothers with various kinds of problems (including drug or alcohol abuse). Made me wonder if it’s largely recommended for everyone to cover the many people who are at risk but don’t want to think they are.

    cynar,

    A lot of the advice is almost insultingly obvious. You get treated like you have a single digit IQ. After a couple of months, I fully understand why we were treated like that! It’s a fight to keep your iq in double digits!

    The baby shaking one is the big one. It’s obvious, you don’t shake your baby. It’s also obvious that they can be safe, even while screaming. After 2 hours of constant crying, combined with sleep deprivation, I fully understand why they reiterated not to shake your baby, the urge was alarmingly strong! It also made sense why they pointed out you could leave them to scream, if you really needed to. So long as they are clean safe and fed, 10 minutes down the garden is completely acceptable.

    With the original advice, telling when it will apply to you is harder than you think. The default advice has to be to play it safe. Some can be deviated from, some can’t. Deviations must be consciously made however.

    nightofmichelinstars,

    Relevant Graham Norton m.youtube.com/watch?v=nKbjBciZBZU

    milicent_bystandr,

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  • bitwaba,

    Fyi, you triple posted.

    milicent_bystandr,

    Thanks. I was having connection troubles.

    AustralianSimon, (edited )
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    The other thing is SIDS, if the baby can’t lift their head from a suffocation position they suffocate.

    We have ours sleep in a cosleep crib beside the bed so you get the closeness and can make contact in the night.

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