berkeleyblue,
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Tradition, mostly.

Dickens used Merry Christmas in his Christmas Carol and the US used the greeting since the 19th century.

In the UK however, happy christmas is more common as the royals used that phrase.

There’s apparently no big thing behind it. Just the way language evolved with different influences in different regions.

Breakyfix,
@Breakyfix@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

am from uk. merry christmas is very much the common phrase here by a long shot

hellothere,

Agreed - it’s merry christmas and happy new year.

whenigrowup356,

Insofar as there’s a distinction between the two, I feel like you’ve got it switched. Merriment would be a night out with drinks and friends, whereas deep happiness would be more like contentedness with your life choices. But they’re about the same. Plus “A Christmas Carol” uses Merry, and it’s like the ultimate Christmas story.

ndru,

Merry Christmas is a popular expression in the UK too.

I think that merriment is actually much easier to attain than happiness. One could be miserable in life, but have a few drinks and be merry.

phorq,

Is it wrong for me to say that the pessimism with a side of alcohol is the most British you could possibly describe being merry?

lemmus, (edited )
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  • macgyver,
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    Idk what country you’re in but Americans would say merry Christmas or happy holidays in most circumstances.

    Wodge,
    @Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

    Am British, also use Nadolig Llawen.

    donuts,
    @donuts@kbin.social avatar

    I've lived in America for almost my entire life and I've never once heard an American say "Happy Christmas". "Happy Holidays", sure, but that's mostly reserved for the days leading up to Christmas. On Christmas Day it's always just "Merry Christmas".

    kubica,
    @kubica@kbin.social avatar

    But you are hoping for the best for someone else. Better wish them to be merry than just happy then?

    ObviouslyNotBanana, (edited )
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    In my country we say “Have a good Yule”.

    Lmaydev,

    Well your country is wrong.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Nä, julen är äldre än kristmässan.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    No, Jul are older than Christmas?

    odium,

    *is

    I think

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes.

    odium,

    Crazy how easy it was to understand that sentence perfectly without speaking any Nordic languages

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Det är bra att man kan göra sig förstådd såhär i juletider.

    odium,

    Now this sentence I don’t understand at all

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Det var verkligen jättetråkigt :(

    Wodge,
    @Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

    no u

    espentan,

    God jul!

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    God jul och glad fortsättning!

    PlasterAnalyst,

    Yule see, yule all see!

    RainfallSonata,

    Personally, merry Christmas just sounds better than happy Christmas. Something about the repeated “m” sound, I think.

    Varyk,

    That’s called euphonics, and I agree

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    It was bad when Hitler did it and I’m not going to suddenly start agreeing with it.

    ivanafterall,
    @ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

    It's Christmas! Let the guy do a little euphonics if it makes him happy.

    Varyk,

    Euphonics?

    TheGalacticVoid,

    Replace “euphonics” with “eugenics” and the joke will make sense

    wreckedcarzz,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Automatic response. Nobody that I am close with is actually happy (or even fine), but when staff asks you in greeting if you’re having a good day and did you find everything okay, you know they are bullshitting the “I’m doing well, and yes, thanks”. Same sort of automatic bullshit response.

    We are living paycheck to paycheck (some not even that), with slowly rising levels of debt, in dead-end jobs while the earth slowly boils us and rich fucks get richer. In tight-knit circles, suicide is often discussed openly and often, and death is welcomed. My best friend recently told me that (if they die before me, as if lol) when I attend the funeral, if anyone suggests that they had a happy life, I am to punch that person in the face, without hesitation.

    Life is pain. But it’s so much quicker to fake that your existence isn’t hell, so lying to people in ways that doesn’t matter is way easier.

    Happy holidays.

    queermunist,

    The vast majority of Americans don’t even know that ‘merriment’ is a word. They just know you’re supposed to say ‘Merry Christmas.’ That’s it.

    HowManyNimons,

    AND IF YOU DONT SAY IT YOUR WOKE RAAAA

    TurboDiesel,
    @TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

    The great irony there being “happy holidays” is from the Old English (language, not malt liquor) for “happy holy days.”

    PlasterAnalyst,

    The great irony being that Bing Crosby had a very famous song called "happy holidays" that is featured in the movie "holiday inn" and if you don't like a Bing Crosby Christmas movie you're a goddamn communist.

    otp,

    My woke did what?

    Blackout,
    @Blackout@kbin.social avatar

    Bah humbug

    TheMongoose,

    The song goes “We wish you a merry Christmas”, so that’ll always be there for as long as the song is popular.

    Plus (also because of the song, I assume), you say “merry Christmas and a happy new year”, not “happy Christmas and a happy new year”. Too much happy there.

    NounsAndWords,

    We like to brag about our ability to still pronounce the R sound.

    Similar to why Brits say Happy Christmas, honestly.

    IWantToFuckSpez, (edited )

    Lol no. You yanks can’t pronounce the R. The only real R is a rolling R. If your tongue is not tapping and vibrating against your palate you are not pronouncing an R.

    sab,
    @sab@kbin.social avatar

    There's a slight chance I could be convinced to accept the french R into the company of real R sounds, but I agree the rolling one is where it's at. The American one is something special.

    TulipanJones,

    If Americans aren’t pronouncing an R, then what letter are they pronouncing?

    IWantToFuckSpez,

    [ɹ]

    elbarto777,

    Stupid comment. You’re referring to the Spanish R, or in a language with a similar R sound.

    Imagine if a French or German person told you that their R is the only way to pronounce the R.

    This kind of misguided gatekeeping is exhausting.

    SirSamuel,

    Dude it was a joke. The first comment was a joke, and the reply was a follow-up “no u” joke. I’m sorry you can’t read into subtext without /s

    Also, Spanish R? Have you not heard of Scots? It’s called apical-alveolar trill, and I wish i could pronounce it better lol

    elbarto777,

    Oh. Teehee. All good then. Happy holidays fellow lemming.

    SirSamuel,

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    oo1,

    Merry also means drunk - at least in common British English.
    Therefore it is quite an easy state to attain either from the offy, or a few pubs tat are also open for a few hours in the afternoon.

    ada,
    @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Who is “everyone else” in this story?

    The only place I know that days Happy Christmas is the UK

    In Australia, it’s merry

    Mr_Dr_Oink,

    I’m from the UK, and I’ve always said merry.

    I doubt it’s any more prevalent in a specific country and more likely specific to individual families and friends.

    For example, i always thought it was an american thing to say happy christmas.

    Rhynoplaz,

    Definitely not an American thing. It’s ALL Merry over here.

    jak,

    My family always said happy, but we also say Gesundheit, so who knows

    ada,
    @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Either way, happy and merry Christmas to you :)

    bamboo,

    Happy Merry to you too!

    TheGalacticVoid,

    In the US, it’s incredibly rare if not impossible to find someone who says “Happy Christmas.” It’s either “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Holidays.”

    YoBuckStopsHere,
    @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

    Happy Chrimbo

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