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some_guy, in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902

Holy fucking shit…

Pisodeuorrior, in Explorers playing soccer on the ice in Antarctica, 1915?

Isn't that the Endurance?

chemicalwonka, in Nazi shithead rally in Buenos Aires, Argentina, 1938
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A great place to get burned from floor to ceiling.

PugJesus, in Papua New Guinean stretcher-bearers carry wounded Allied soldier through wetlands, WW2, 1942?
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https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/people-of-papua-new-guinea

Time would prove that the kindness the indigenous people of New Guinea had shown to the Americans and Australians was real, but that their supposed “loyalty,” much touted by Allied propaganda, was not. The truth is that no one ever asked the native people their point of view. After the war ended, researchers seeking oral testimonies from New Guineans who had lived through the war were astonished to learn that the native peoples were united in one opinion: that they wanted the “whites”—among whom they included Japanese, Australians, and Americans—just to go away and leave them alone.

"No, we won't let you suffer. No, we don't want you here."

GFY, in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902

It’s crazy to me that people can look at this picture and then immediately start arguing about semantics.

ArmokGoB,

Every one of those people said it’s effectively slavery.

ElusiveClarity, (edited ) in Explorers playing soccer on the ice in Antarctica, 1915?

This is from Shackleton’s 1914-1916 expedition. There’s a really good book called Endurance if anyone wants to know more about this insane story.

tweeks, in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902

What is with the odd looking rib cages; I guess these are torture burn/whip marks, as they don’t look like regular ribs at all?

PugJesus,

I think it might be ritual scarification, but it could be torture marks as well. I’m not well-versed on this period or region of history.

Putykat,
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Look like scars

Deceptichum,
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T00l_shed,

Ah I was wondering as well if the scarification was a common practice amongst the aboriginal peoples of Australia. Thanks for that!

rustyredox, in Hops pickers on stilts, UK, 1928

That’s intense! Imagine tipping over the point of no return and falling over 3x your hight, all while your feet and hips are strapped in place. No bailing from the stilts, no tuck and roll, just catching yourself like your landing the most insane jumping pushup, that is if your even falling face first.

The workers also don’t look too young. I wonder if this is sort of like the case of there being no bold, old pilots. Just seasoned workers who learn never to push their luck when balancing all day, or just folks who really learned how to take a fall early in their life.

Great community BTW, just subscribed.

PugJesus,
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Wild what people do without all the modern safety measures and machines we have!

Hope you enjoy it here! Just trying to bring a few historical curiosities to the Fediverse!

MedicPigBabySaver,

It might sound crazy, but, I bet these workers didn’t fall … Ever

rustyredox,

These two workers specifically?
I could see with that.

These kind of workers in general?
I’m betting the ones who managed to limp off after one good belly flop would have quickly retired to shorter stilts.

tetris11, in Hops pickers on stilts, UK, 1928
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Isn’t that just 6 kids in 2 trenchcoats?

distantsounds,

Well no, it’s likely 2 grown men on stilts…unless it’s photoshopped

Caradoc879, in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902

Slave. The word is slave. “Forced labor” sounds like it’s downplaying the severity.

PugJesus,
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I don't mean to downplay the severity, but there are procedural differences. Slavery was pro forma banned at the time. Effectively, I agree, for all practical purposes of the folk in chains, it was slavery.

FinallyDebunked, (edited ) in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902
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What fine, upstanding men there were in days gone by.

Gazumi, in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902

Even today, only cursory recognition that the Aboriginal people remain excluded from their own lands and ways

Madison420,

Hey you could get a token reservation increased policing a nation that thinks themselves native and have since 1740 at the very least.

Alchemy, in Nazi shithead rally in Buenos Aires, Argentina, 1938
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Why is there fencing around the areas, like fenced in middle section?

PugJesus,
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Possibly to avoid anti-fascist demonstrators rushing the stage, as I know happened in several non-German Nazi rallies around the world.

gravitas_deficiency, in Nazi shithead rally in Buenos Aires, Argentina, 1938

And remember: there was another one of these a year later, at . It can - and indeed has - happened here. And around 2016 most of them swapped out their signs, but it’s the same core ideology.

Anticorp,

What is the new sign? A red hat?

Bebo, in Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902

Such an evil smile.

theangryseal,

And he might have ended up being a standup dude in another time.

That’s something that I think about often.

The average intelligence of the population of the world isn’t that great. Most people accept whatever reality is instilled in them. If you take a little baby and raise it up to think of some people as animals, they’ll probably never question it, and being surrounded only by people who accept that reality, they’ll never have a reason to question it. I very rarely meet a person who has ever really questioned their reality. It always surprised me when I do.

Most abolitionists came from a world where they were they weren’t exposed to slavery, so they were able to question it. Even then, only around 2% of the population were abolitionists, they just fought really hard for their cause until it rose up high enough to actually be considered for action.

I’m not even putting myself into that small group of people smart enough to question their reality. If I hadn’t grown up with the internet there’s a good chance I’d be a preacher in a Pentecostal holiness church somewhere. That small handful of people who question their reality help spread their questions to the idiot masses.

That’s why I admire people who fight for positive change above all other people. They fight an uphill battle daily. Sometimes they win big and I’m grateful they do.

Syldon,
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I have to agree here from experience.

One of my kids came out as gay. I grew up in a very homophobic environment in the 70s. I would quite often called timid people puffs etc. Sometimes around my kids, because that was how I grew up. You discouraged timid behaviour to stop them getting bullied. Realising one of your kids is gay was a real eye opener for me as to how bad these phrases are.

I would never treat a gay person differently. I just saw it as an expression that was common when I was young, and also in the environment I worked in. For context, I used to play squash with a guy from work, who everyone was convinced was gay. He actually got married in a heterosexual relationship a few years later, but whether he was or wasn’t never bothered me. This ofc doesn’t excuse the practise, it just shows how warped I was.

PugJesus,
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General Sherman early in life was quite alright with slavery and a casual racist against Black people, and later became an ardent anti-racist (at least, anti-racist with regards to anti-Black racism). He noted, some years after the US CIvil War, when asked by younger folk how so many people could have blithely accepted slavery, that man is more a creature of habit than originality.

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