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johntash, in Quick And Easy To Host Lemmy And Other Federated Communities

Have any technical details on how this works? And are you planning on charging for the service?

duck1e, (edited )

this is early testing phase. I have created and deployed a lemmy server and mattermost modules successfully and it works great.

technical details: all this works via cloud instances kinda like architecture, i create a instance (container or vm based on software req) and launch automated scripts to setup everything so people don’t have to mess up working with insecure configurations. The backend api is golang and frontend is vuejs. I also have a WAF and security protocols to mitigate basic security flaws and botnet attacks. I need feedback on what our oss community surfers the most when hosting federated communities.

business side: I dont intend to charge for things in testing phase cause all i need is good feedback but as the server demands grows i’ll be working with whatever you’ll be paying for private instance (idk like $2 a month ?).

motivation: people use proprietary products cause they are already hosted and just avaiable. If we make this with oss products people will start using it. Making lemmy easy to setup will boost more community interaction and make lifes of current community mods easier :)

bjoern_tantau, (edited ) in 0.19.1 bug I'm moderator everywhere
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I see this as well. But maybe it applies only to your own instance where you are an administrator. I will try locking this post for comments.

BTW: It only just now arrived at my instance.

Edit: Yeah, it isn’t stickied at lemmy.ml/post/9847234

Loulou,

Test post

willya, (edited ) in Question about the federation system
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

There’s no shadow bans. It’s possible that you’re interacting with an instance that has defederated from your home instance or vice versa. You won’t be told this. Everything just appears empty. Same if you’re banned from a community/instance. You won’t be told this unless the moderators message you.

GregorGizeh,

Since I can see their content just fine it doesn’t appear to be defederation. But if they did ban me and there is no way for me to know, isn’t that a shadow ban?

willya, (edited )
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

What’s the instance and community you’re having problems with and I’ll tell you what’s going on. You would know you were banned by viewing your profile on that instance. You can find reasons in the modlog too if they added any.

GregorGizeh, (edited )

The one I noticed it the most with is hexbear. I know they have a bad rep but I like to keep an open mind and tried a bunch of times to chime in whenever I saw one of their posts pop up on the all feed i felt I had something relevant to add to.

I also know they are a bit echo chamber-y so I assumed they might have a special hidden restriction in place for non-approved instances. I would be surprised if they actually banned my personal account because I don’t think I wrote anything they might consider controversial.

But the fact remains that (as far as I understand) my feed would not show any of their content if my instance was not federated with them, no?

TimLovesTech,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

This could be a long shot, but since your instance is running on a .zip TLD it could be blocked at a webserver level (the whole .zip TLD not your instance specifically) like a lot of admins did when they were launched.

willya, (edited )
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

https://thumbsnap.com/i/gihwYZ9x.jpghttps://thumbsnap.com/i/DQJqQQGc.jpg

You’ve been talking to yourself for four months.

GregorGizeh, (edited )

Interesting, how can I see this for myself? I suppose using a client for Lemmy since day 1 made me not learn these basic things and I want to check some other instances where I suspect the same.

No idea what I did to offend but I guess I can safely block their instance from my feed then. It’s a bit annoying the user isn’t warned or straight up prevented from participating when banned.

willya,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Good mods/admins send a message along with their banning/removals. If you add /u/GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip to the end of any Lemmy domain you can see your profile on that instance. Scroll down, tap modlog and search for your name if you want a timeframe/reason.

amio,

Good mods/admins don't exist on Hexbear or similar bullshit.

can,

lemmy.zip/instances

That won’t show which have deferedesged from you though. There was a tool but I can’t recall the name atm.

tal, in Version 0.19.1 outgoing federation issues for anyone else?
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

This post, a day before yours on the lemmy_support@lemmy.ml community, is describing some similar behavior, with some CPU usage at start (at least on the first boot; not clear whether that is a one-off on migration from the text) and then federation problems with 0.19.1:

lemmy.ml/post/9563852?scrollToComments=true

After upgrading Lemmy from 0.18.5 to 0.19.1, the lemmy_server process is taking up 200-350+% of my CPU…It seems like my instance isn’t federating properly now tho.

Loulou,

I got som weird behaviour, like nothing worked very well, with 0.19.0 so I updated to 0.19.1 and after quite a while (small instance, beefy PC) it starts to work again, it seems.

Except I am now a moderator everywhere. Maybe it doesn’t work, I won’t try, except asked, so can someone make a post that I can sticky or delete just to see what’s happening?

Cheers!

mrmanager,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah that’s what we are having here too, huge cpu usage and issues with outgoing federation. Sounds spot on.

davel, in The mystery of the preferred pronouns injection
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I just set my Display name to “Davel”. We’ll see if this propagates. Then I’ll delete my Display name, and see if “Dave” is retained by other instances. Then I’ll know that this is unrelated to the Markup table.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s not related to the markup table because I have the same issue with mine and nothing like that in my bio.

I think display name federation is just (recently?) broken, but it was working a while ago when we both set these old display names.

ie: we’re stuck with whatever display name we had when display name federation was last working

davel, (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks! Fortunately I have a stuck name I can live with.

InEnduringGrowStrong, (edited ) in The mystery of the preferred pronouns injection
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

You don’t have a display name now, but maybe you did at some point?
Maybe it’s just the removal of the display name that didn’t federate properly?
Just a hunch

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yup, I removed my own display name a while back but the change doesn’t reflect on remote instances.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

It seems to appear on sh.itjust.works as well, at least when accessed via a browser. Are you on a browser? If not, then this would suggest the functionality is in the lemmy-ui codebase.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/05a4a4e0-4ab4-4b85-b0f1-037b0f237ce9.png

Jakeroxs,

I see he/him for you in Sync

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I had a display name but it was a bit too long so I’ve deleted it locally.
Remote instances still display it.
Mine has nothing to do with the bio or pronouns, it’s just a federation bug.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I just re-added a (different) display name, testing…

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t think it’s a functionality but that deleting one’s display name has issues federating to other instances.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I might have. Unfortunately I don’t clearly recall :/

fastfinge, in Version 0.19.1 outgoing federation issues for anyone else?

I was having issues with outgoing federation to Mastodon on 0.19.0. I just did the update five minutes ago, so we’ll see if that fixes it. If you’re seeing this comment I guess it’s working at the moment.

mrmanager, (edited )
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

What we are seeing is that outgoing federation of posts and comments works after a restart, but new posts and comments made on the local instance are not federating to other instances until the next restart. This is with version 0.19.1.

Also after a restart, the server eats a lot of cpu for several minutes. Im guessing this is normal with the federation queue being processed but cant be sure.

fastfinge,

Good to know; thanks! I’ll keep an eye on it.

misk, in Sudden decrease in votes on apocalypticart@feddit.de after 0.19 upgrade
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

You’re clearly mistaken, Lemmy devs fixed it: github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4288

/s

(there’s a high chance I’m sending this into a void)

tal,
@tal@kbin.social avatar

I can see your comment from lemmy.today and on lemmy.ml and on kbin.social.

I can see a response to you from @dandroid on lemmy.today and on lemmy.ml. I cannot see that response from kbin.social.

maegul, in Sudden decrease in votes on apocalypticart@feddit.de after 0.19 upgrade
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Interesting. Could be related to the outbound federation bug 0.19.0 had.

Crul,

From what I see:

  • feddit.de is on BE: 0.19.1
  • lemm.ee is on BE: 0.19.1-rc.1

I don’t know in which version was the bug fixed.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Either 19.1 or rc.1 fixes the bug from what I saw.

But the question then becomes when the last post was made to apocalyptic art. From my quick glance it was 4 days ago on the lemmy.ml mirror, which seems behind the most recent posts on the actual community. Lemmy.ml is on the newest version.

So my guess is that there’s some general federation issue, possibly on the feddit.de end, which is causing some things to get dropped.

If that’s not the issue, then there could be a similar bug that hasn’t yet been noticed.

tal, (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

We were just discussing some potentially-0.19.1-related federation problem that lemmy.today users were experiencing after the update; that’s how I ran across this thread.

lemmy.today/post/4382768

The admin there, @mrmanager, restarted the instance again some hours later to attempt to resolve the problem, and it looked like federation started working at that point.

That might be worth consideration if any other instances are seeing problems with posts/comments/votes not propagating.

EDIT: Well, nuts. Now this comment doesn’t seem to be propagating either; visible from lemmy.today but not on lemmy.ml’s Web UI. Maybe if lemmy.today gets restarted again, it will.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

Posting from a kbin.social account to avoid the lemmy.today issues -- on lemmy.today, the current behavior looks like the messages in the queue go out when the instance is restarted, but not until then. It's running 0.19.1.

I am not the admin there, but wanted to make that available in case other instances are affected and trying to diagnose similar behavior; federation problems themselves can cause communication problems in trying to understand the issue.

Fleppensteijn, in Sudden decrease in votes on apocalypticart@feddit.de after 0.19 upgrade
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

I’m getting a LemmyAPIException when I try to upvote since yesterday. Now I notice I’m getting the same error when I try to post from the app.

Crul,

Thanks for the info!

I crossposted this to (what I considered) the relevant communities, where I added that as an edit.

MrJameGumb, in Can I get browser notifications for Lemmy replies?
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think there’s an option for it in a regular web browser. I have the Boost app on my phone and get notifications that way

freamon, in (Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like

For anyone else wondering, btw, it’s because lemmy expects all ‘id’ fields to be unique, so it would error if the inner object actually was a copy of the original vote.

willya, in If I apply a tag to myself, can other users see it?
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Where are you seeing this? Might be a dbzer0 only thing.

isVeryLoud, in How do I make my community text only?

As a workaround for now, you could make a bot to enforce the rules. It would delete any post containing an image or an embedded link to an image.

tree, in Anyway to turn off or control the comment highlighting in 0.19?

It’s a bug in the dark theme CSS. On the light theme it’s a much more subtle highlight.

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2264

ech,

Ah, that makes some sense. Would still like more control over if it appears at all, but I’m glad to know it’s at least not intentionally that glaring.

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