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UnrepententProcrastinator, in They knew all the wicked hits

Only beacause I’ve seen Defunctland’s documentary.

kittenzrulz123, in A good deal of IT work, too

Programmers when GitHub and stackoverflow:

AnUnusualRelic, in Big brain energy
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Politicians: hold my finely aged cognac.

spacecowboy, in Singular

I’m watching you Wizowski. Aaaaaalways watching you.

dan1101, (edited ) in A good deal of IT work, too

Googling problems certainly helps but you still need enough knowledge to define the problem, Google it, and implement the solution.

I get the impression that a lot of posted solutions are from people who actually spoke to high level tech support for various hardware/software because how else would they know things like what obscure registry key with a very arbitrary name to add?

iamericandre,

That’s a big part people don’t understand is you need to know enough about your problem to google the correct terms and find what you need. Googling itself is a learned skill.

punkwalrus,
@punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

This is so true. That’s why there’s no shame in using Google or Duckduckgo or even Chatgpt. You have to know enough to phrase the right question, know how to filter the right answer, and then use it.

I can Google a Chinese dictionary, but that won’t make me fluent in Chinese.

NABDad, in A good deal of IT work, too

It depends on how hard you push the envelope. The closer you get to doing something no one has ever done before, the more likely you are to be in your own.

Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.

AlexWIWA,

I still have to look up basic things even when I’m doing that, sadly.

Things like “how do I reverse an array?” Will always be in my Google history because I can’t remember “.reverse” exists.

Could I reimplement “.reverse” or just read the docs for an array? Yes. Will I? Never.

Nahdahar,

I feel you, my problem is that I switch between languages too much. I’m learning rust right now as a hobby, but I’m technically a frontend dev with years of experience in angular and react, and a couple months ago I have been put on a legacy rails project, which we’re rewriting for Angular x Java stack (thankfully my roommate is a Java backend dev, he’s been a lot of help) and on top of this I maintain my Cyberpunk 2077 mods written in lua, c++ and redscript (swift-like).

Send help.

AlexWIWA, (edited )

How do I do thing that I do every day, but in this language I’m using today

Modding is definitely a nightmare though. One day I’m writing the latest python. The next I’m looking at some C library that was published half a decade before I was born and is for some reason deep in the bowels of the game engine I’m modding

xpinchx, (edited )

Lol this applies to so many things. Maybe there’s some prestige to doing something for the first time, but really there were probably a dozen people that contemplated it and decided against it for good reasons.

isVeryLoud,

Wise words

TheEighthDoctor,

Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.

As a pentester I approve this message

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

“Ink is dry. Clicky thing doesn’t work. Fail.”

dubyakay,

Don’t need google for that one!

wewbull,

Doing something nobody has ever done before should be something we strive for.

Do we really need more websites that are really just front-ends on databases?

SpaceNoodle, in A good deal of IT work, too

I’m old enough that when I was in school, teachers were telling us that we’d never have calculators in our pockets wherever we’d go.

Steve,

Thats a stupid statement in any year after the “pocket calculator” was available in the 70s

SpaceNoodle,

Not really. The first ones were quite expensive, and it was uncommon to have one on your person at all times like we now do with smartphones.

Rodeo,

Yes really, if your job requires lots of calculations you’d be stupid not to have one, even back when they were expensive.

Every machinist I know, even the crusty old ones, carry a calculator in their pocket. It’s indispensable. Why wouldn’t you carry one if you need it all the time?

SpaceNoodle,

Pretty sure the teacher wasn’t assuming that every single child in class was going to be a machinist.

In fact, most people aren’t machinists.

Rodeo,

And yet my point stands: if you need to do a lot of calculations at your job, you’d be stupid not to have a calculator in your pocket. And if you don’t, then the time it takes to find a calculator will be negligible.

SpaceNoodle,

OK? That’s not the point.

Rodeo,

Uh what, that’s literally the point lol. The “you won’t have a calculator” has been complete and utter bullshit for literally over half a century.

SpaceNoodle, (edited )

Bro, smartphones haven’t even existed for 20 years

You’re talking as if everybody was carrying around pocket calculators the day they were invented

Rodeo,

No actually I literally specified people whose jobs require doing a lot of calculations lmao

If your job required lots of calculations, and you heard about this fancy new thing called a pocket calculator, wouldn’t you go out and buy one?

SpaceNoodle,

Of course. But, again, that’s not everyone. Not everyone went out and bought pocket calculators and carried them around everywhere.

dejected_warp_core,

It’s even more stupid when it’s the same class that required the purchase of a TI-85 to complete the course.

Ferris,

how big are your pockets cmon

SpaceNoodle,

There was a period of time when I wore only carpenter jeans so I could fit my TI-83 in my pocket and I’m still not ashamed

TheOneWithTheHair,
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar

I’m that old, too. Can you imagine a student back then saying, “I’ll have a calculator, flashlight, camera, video recorder, music collection, and games to pass the times I have to wait on others.”

SpaceNoodle,

“Oh yeah and it’s also a phone”

superduperenigma,

“Oh yeah and it’s also a computer that’s more powerful than any computer you’ve ever laid eyes on that has access to an unimaginable wealth of human knowledge via a wireless connection to the Internet.”

SpaceNoodle,

What the fuck is an Internet?

eran_morad,

Tubes bruh

altima_neo, (edited )
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

The Internet is a communications tool, used the world over, where people come together to bitch about movies and share pornography with one another!

SpaceNoodle,

You forgot about cat photos

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

I listened recently to somebody on a podcast saying that only psychos or close family would dial you in this day and age… And I kinda agree.

SpaceNoodle,

Or medical providers, professional contacts, service providers …

VaultBoyNewVegas,

I’m only 27 and I was lucky enough to hear that one, no Wikipedia and no Google.

SpaceNoodle,

Wikipedia was started in 2001, and Google in 1998. Who was saying this to you when you were 2?

Micromot,

The platforms existing doesn’t mean they have been as wide spread as they are today

SpaceNoodle,

They said “no Google and no Wikipedia,” not “Google and Wikipedia were not as widespread as they are today”

PwnTra1n,

I feel like you misread. I think they meant Wikipedia and google not allowed for sources.

SpaceNoodle,

Why would you assume they’d just randomly change the topic like that?

PwnTra1n,

The subject became “stupid shit teachers say that is not applicable in the real world” and in that context the subject never changed. They were probably told “you won’t have a calculator in your pocket all the time” as well as “don’t using the internet(google and Wikipedia) as sources” which was very common to be told around the time when they would have been in school. I’m not attacking you I just think you misunderstood as everyone is possible of doing.

SpaceNoodle,

Perhaps you should entertain the idea that you misunderstood. I suppose it’s also possible that OC is just not very good at expressing themselves.

PwnTra1n,

Maybe they aren’t good at expressing themselves but it makes sense with my point of view where as taking your viewpoint it’s just nonsense. Maybe they had a point of view where it makes sense. Where they are coming from it makes the comment make sense where if we follow yours we just think everyone else is an idiot with no room for fault of your own. That’s fine if you are always right but you are not, as with everyone.

SpaceNoodle,

People say nonsense on the Internet all the time. It’s the safest assumption.

PwnTra1n,

Yeah, I’ve been reading your replies.

SpaceNoodle,

🙄

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Lol. Your back and forth was entertaining. I expressed what I intended to, teachers were still doing the whole “don’t trust everything you read” and “you won’t have a calculator in your pocket” when I was at school.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Aww snookums, I was only providing an anecdote to the comment I replied too, no need to get bent out of shape over it. And fyi teachers were still telling us that we wouldn’t always have calculators when I was 16 doing my GCSEs and learning algebra and compound interest for an exam where we had two papers with calculators used and one where we weren’t allowed calculators.

SpaceNoodle,

🙄

tooclose104,
@tooclose104@lemmy.ca avatar

This wasn’t all that long ago though. I’m only in my 30’s and was told this in elementary school in the 90’s and early 2000’s. The iPhone was first released only 16 years ago.

punkwalrus,
@punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

I was told this, too, but when I got to Functions and Analytical Geometry, they started suggesting calculators. Now kids have laptops, gees.

WashedOver, in It's like everyday
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

Mine gets like this depending on the amount of dairy I consume. It’s can be pretty clear most of the timesbut mmmmhmmm ice cream and cheese…

Hegar,

I would never claim to know what your body does but FYI there is a popular misconception that diary promotes snot. The idea is based on the magical principle that like attracts like, there's no evidence for it.

tastysnacks,

I thought it was the dairy causes gastric reflux and that acid promotes snot.

WashedOver,
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s an interesting read (after Googling) , especially the studies. I would love to be one of those types that says “Fake News” to anything I don’t like, but the initial science seems to be there.

Hegar,

says “Fake News” to anything I don’t like,

Sorry if that seemed to be my intention. As I mentioned, all bodies are different and if you say that happens to you I'm perfectly willing to believe it.

However, there is also a common misunderstanding about this which seems relevant to mention.

the initial science seems to be there.

It is not.

"I've heard that you shouldn't drink milk when you have a cold because it increases phlegm. Is this true?
Answer From Julie Baughn, M.D.
No. Drinking milk does not cause the body to make phlegm." - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/common-cold/expert-answers/phlegm/faq-20058015

The no doubt reputable "livelovefruit.com" claims "Milk and Mucus: Why Dairy is The Major Cause of Your Phlegm, Mucus and Congestion Issues" and then spends several paragraphs railing against diary industry science before citing some tangential studies.

"Milk and dairy product intake was not associated with an increase in upper or lower respiratory tract symptoms of congestion or nasal secretion weight." - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2154152/

"Excessive milk consumption has a long association with increased respiratory tract mucus production and asthma. Such an association cannot be explained using a conventional allergic paradigm and there is limited medical evidence showing causality. " - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19932941/

WashedOver, (edited )
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

All good. When I said initial science I meant what you said with the studies not really seeing a rise due to milk.

I was taking a jab at those that yell fake news to anything they don’t like and they did their own research so I can’t do the same when there is science saying hey that’s probably not the case with the milk.

Thanks for pointing it out. I hadn’t seen those studies before.

I_Miss_Daniel,

🎵 My milkshake brings all the phloem to the schnozz. 🎵

HeyJoe, in A good deal of IT work, too

As someone who worked in tech support and a sys admin role, yes, and thank you. I would say 90% of all issues and problems I had were either solved or pointed in the right direction since 2006, the year I started.

dejected_warp_core,

I’ll do you one better. I’ve learned that in the absence of online information for a bug or fault, that I’m most likely attempting something that is better solved another way. Like, nobody does it like the harebrained thing I just invented, so it’s just me and everyone else with a (different) working solution.

boredtortoise, in Singular

Gotta get my pant on

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

And my smoke on

lowleveldata, in Big brain energy

yes, yes… Could you just sign here for me real quick? There is nothing you can lose anyway right?

PerogiBoi, in It's like everyday
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

This is me when I sleep or lie down but the nostril wall never comes down 😭

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

No joke my doctor told me I should whash my sinis everyday before bed and told me to buy a specific bottle that makes it easier and safer, I did and OMG, life changing!! Just don’t wash your sinus with regular water please!

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Is it a netti pot? I’ve seen those but snorting a teapot with water seemed extreme to me but I know nothing about it 🤪

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

no no, it’s like the photo bellow. My doctor recomended because there is a button that allows the water to go on the necessary speed only, that way it doesn’t allow water to go to your ears and give you an infection.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/639aec12-73ba-4669-ab3d-52505d25815c.jpeg

andrewta, (edited )

Never use tap water it has combined chlorine it (at least where I live it does)

Probably better if you just use Johnny Walker Blue Label

Edit : source of how I know the tap water has combined chlorine… My brother has the testing equipment because he takes care of a swimming pool.

Faresh,

Everytime I hear someone mention sinus, I get confused about what that is. Wikipedia says it’s airpockets surrounding the nose. I don’t feel anything besides fat and bone when I press down around my nose. Are they inside the skull? How do you access them?

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

Yes they are air pockets inside the skull, that’s why when you clean it you can just push water through one nostril and it will come out on the other, because it fills the sinus. Also, sometimes you can feel you teeth too sensitive because you have something on the sinus above them

Like this

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/063d7013-b39b-4854-afd9-10964c27450a.png

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Whoa. Sensitive teeth thing was something I felt a few days ago and it was really strange. Like in my top gums. Bodies are wiiiiild

obinice,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

You gotta swap out your nostrils for yestrils

Geek_King,

A++, would chortle again.

obinice,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you, you made me smile :-)

CileTheSane, (edited )
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

This is me when I sleep or lie down but the nostril wall never comes down 😭

Nostrils, when the walls fell.

Apeman42,
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

Vicks, his sinuses OPEN!

zenbhang,

Haha I actually brought this up in my comment to OP, but do you find that you have this clogged nose in hotels or other places?

If not, and you notice it just at home you may be allergic to dust mites.

I bought dust mite bed covers, pillow covers, and spray and applied them after washing my original bed sheets and pillow covers.

Immediately that day I stopped having a clogged nose in bed.

I’d been suffering all my life thinking it was normal to have a clogged nose in bed lol, turns out I had an allergy.

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Hmmm. This sounds promising. I notice that when I go on vacation and sleep overnight somewhere I usually don’t have any problems. Figured it was an allergen in the house but wasn’t sure what. I’ll take a further look into this. Thanks :)

I_Miss_Daniel,

🎵Well they blew the horn… 🎵

InEnduringGrowStrong, in It's like everyday
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s actually normal.
Your nostrils cycle between like this so that the one can take a break from the air flow and mitigate drying out.

Touching_Grass,

But why not both

AnUnusualRelic, (edited )
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Then they’d both dry out (or you’d suffocate).

Touching_Grass,

Well that’s some peoples goals and its none of my business

exothermic,

More info for those who are curious en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_cycle

A_A,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, and most importantly I would say : immune system’s way of cleaning each side…
The clogging is caused by the swelling (with the blood vessels and the action of blood’s white cells … or … maybe I should read the article again)

AeroLemming,

If it’s normal, why does it bother me so much? The feeling drives me absolutely nuts and I hate it.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hey that’s just part of becoming aware you’re a sentient being stuck in a weird meat vessel that’s just full of undebugged closed source code blobs.

If you’re slightly congested, it sucks more.
If you think about it too much about your breathing, it sucks.
Otherwise it’s fine.

dragonflyteaparty,

Of course my breathing is all I can think about now.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well yea.
There’s also a nose in your field of view.

Vuraniute,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

You are now blinking manually

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fuck this one got me for a minute.
Don’t forget to swallow your saliva now and then.

Vuraniute,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

You can feel your ears.

I_Miss_Daniel,

Sweaing in the Sennheizers.

AeroLemming,

aaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

You’re welcome.

FeatherConstrictor,

Why is your name red

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am the red one destroyer of spam, csam and abusive content.
You can summon me with the flag icon.

For real though, I’m just a random dude lending a hand with moderation on sh.itjust.works where your account is.
Peace

usualsuspect191,

Not only does it help from drying out, but it helps with smell too; some things are better detected with a slower airflow

rockerface,

Yep, there’s a reason our noses didn’t simply evolve into a singular hole in the middle of our faces

Gunrigger,

I was going to say because it would be fucking weird if we just had one big nose hole. Now I’m thinking about it, our nostrils are already pretty weird.

I’m now looking in the mirror at my nostrils and pumping them to the beat of a song.

nixcamic, (edited )

Thinking about your body for too long: It’s like semantic satiation but for physiology.

charliespider,

Two nostrils allows for stereo smells. If we only had one nostril, we would only be able to smell in mono.

Fades,

wake me when surround-smell drops

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Also just to add to the torture of these conversations … the inside of your lungs also have a certain ‘scent’ or ‘aroma’ to it. It’s very subtle and wouldn’t be noticeable to anyone else except for yourself because the exhaled air is coming straight out of your lungs and right past your nostrils and all its receptors. Your receptors can sense it but your brain automatically ignores it and you never notice.

The same goes for your vision … you have a natural blind spot in the center of your vision … the edges are not crisp and clean, you can only focus on about 10 percent of what you actually see in front of you, the rest is just blurry … your brain just automatically processes your entire vision and autogenerates a perceived image that makes us believe that we have crystal clear vision through our entire field of view.

Same goes with hearing … just about every person has a tiny bit of tinnitus, ringing of the ears but your brain just automatically processes it all out to make you think that you have crystal clear hearing.

When you think about it … all our senses are pretty imperfect and there is a lot of interference and nonsense data that our brain processes out to make us believe that we have perfect or near perfect vision, hearing and sense of smell.

Rolando,

you can only focus on about 10 percent of what you actually see in front of you,

I read about this when I was in high school and it freaked me out because I convinced myself that there were Cthulhu-like eldritch abominations inhabiting the spaces I could not see RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME and I couldn’t concentrate on school for the rest of the day.

WldFyre,

You should read Blindsight by Peter Watts.

Or maybe not idk haha

Rolando,

You should read Blindsight by Peter Watts.

Yeah, when I read that book I was like: this reminds me of that time I freaked out in high school!

I admire the fact that the author put it online for free, and it’s a pretty good book, but it could have been better… Watts could have taken all those ideas about consciousness and humanity and produced something like 1984 or Catch-22 that embodies ideas that might otherwise get lost in abstractions. Unfortunately the ideas all get a little muddled.

WldFyre,

Yeah for sure! On the other hand it being such a dense, philosophical book means it really stands up to and benefits from a re-read! And the audiobook has a great narrator IMO.

Rolando,

Well, this conversation inspired me to finally read The Colonel, which reminded me of how great some of Watts’ ideas could be. Guess I’ll have to get a copy of Echopaxia next.

WldFyre,

Oh damn I didn’t know about that! I’ll be reading that this week, thanks for the link!

Echopaxia was definitely different, I wasn’t crazy about it my first read through but it had me shook pretty good my second read through. I highly recommend it!

Rolando,

I think if you’ve already read Echopraxia then The Colonel won’t tell you much new, it’s more like a transition between the two novels.

shiroininja, in A good deal of IT work, too

I literally made money on a contract this year doing something I’d never even done. Thank you google. Love it

SpaceNoodle,

You never did it, but still made money for claiming that you had?

name_NULL111653,

I’d : contraction I + had, past participle active. Indicative of something having been done by the subject (in first person) in the past.

"I did something I had never done (before / in the past).

SpaceNoodle,

“Before” is not implied.

name_NULL111653,

Take an English class, I’m sure YouTube has a good video explaining it (basically there are different “degrees” of past tense, did / had done etc.)

SpaceNoodle,

It’s still not implicit just because you inferred it.

name_NULL111653,

In the English language, an action I “had done” is before an action I “did.” It’s a grammatical case, not an inference.

SpaceNoodle,

He stated that he had not done it, not that he had not done it before.

saigot, (edited )

No native English speaker would say it like that. You’d say “doing something I never even did”.

SpaceNoodle, (edited )

No native English speaker would say it like you said.

TheFriendlyDickhead,

Well the word “before” doesn’t need to implicit. The “had” in I’d is more than enough past for the sentence to make sense

SpaceNoodle,

No, that simply indicated that they had not done the thing, i.e. at all.

psud,

i.e. at all before that time

SpaceNoodle,

No, they never said “before.”

schmidtster, (edited )

For someone who only posts insulting others and correcting (incorrectly a bunch too….) their grammar, you sure lack any amount of reading comprehension.

Its always the loudest people who are the most guilty, I appreciate the lengths you go to prove this is still true.

STRIKINGdebate2,
@STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world avatar

@SpaceNoodle I see a lot of toxic behaviour from you here and I will be keeping a closer eye on you in the future.

As you @schmidtster try not to bring disputes started in other comment chains into this one.

schmidtster, (edited )

I’ve tried just reporting them before. Doesn’t seem to do anything, so sorry for having to point it out. See this person all over Lemmy in lots of communities.

And just had an interaction yesterday, so had to see what was new with them. Again, my apologies for bringing this to your attention, wasn’t bringing an argument in.

TheTetrapod,

It is

SpaceNoodle,

Nope.

0xD,

Looks like everyone but you understood it correctly - maybe you should brush up on your language comprehension skills?

SpaceNoodle,

Maybe y’all could try having a sense of humor about things.

Empricorn,

Wrongly calling someone out while being too fragile to accept correction isn’t a “sense of humor”.

SpaceNoodle,

I’m not the one too fragile to accept correction.

Empricorn,

@lemmy.world

You never did it, but still made money for claiming that you had?

@pawb.social

I’d: contraction I + had, past participle active. Indicative of something having been done by the subject (in first person) in the past.

"I did something I had never done (before / in the past).

@lemmy.world

“Before” is not implied.

Uh, it’s right there. So yeah, you clearly are. Right here in this very thread.

Okay, nooow I’m blocking the troll…

SpaceNoodle,

I don’t know what you think you proved. I’ve never met anyone as obtuse as you before.

psud,

You are too down voted to call others obtuse, goose.

SpaceNoodle,

Oh no, a bandwagon. I feel so excluded.

aard,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

In IT contracting (at least the fields I’m around) it’s quite common that “being able to acquire new skills quickly” is one of the skills you get paid for, and the time needed for you to do that is accounted for in the project planning.

Steve,

Assume they meant “previously”

SpaceNoodle,

If they meant it, they’d have written it.

BirdyBoogleBop,

Must be a government contract

xpinchx,

I did do this for web dev for a government contract. I got brought on for mobile optimizations but ended up doing full UI/UX design and marketing copy with no experience. All through their shitty in house WYSIWYG. $60/hr for a full year lol.

shiroininja,

Nah, business.

TWeaK, in It's like everyday

My nostril generally gets blocked on the side closest to the person who’s spreading all the germs.

But I find you can sort it out if you tilt your head back slightly and point your nose up, then tilt to the side away from the blocked nostril. Once the blood starts to even out you can level out your head with both nostrils fairly clear.

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