qooqie,

All their good content is moved to the streaming services. why make less money being bundled on cable when you can charge people whatever for the content and make way more? At least that’s why I think the content on cable is trash at the moment

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It was trash long before that.

Discovery, History and TLC used to all show educational programming. TLC actually stands for The Learning Channel.

spicytuna62,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Mythbusters may have been one of the single greatest programs ever.

I miss Modern Marvels and How It’s Made.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Those were all great.

Also, A&E (Which stands for Arts & Entertainment) used to show opera, ballet and classical music concerts. Maybe it wasn’t hugely popular, but my family would watch.

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

the og a&e/nick (when it was a shared channel) used to be what the family room tv was tuned to for 'noise' when no one was watching.

sangriaferret,

They also aired reruns of Twin Peaks which was pretty rad.

prettybunnys,

Myth busters was one of the shows that signaled the end honestly.

It was a good show but it was a signal that pure educational television no longer worked. Myth Busters was a quasi intellectual show but it rarely followed any scientific method other than “we tried it this way and will extrapolate all results from that”

Great show, lots of entertainment but it was definitely part of the “we need to be flashier and shinier and louder”

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Plus all the filler. I love the Streamlined Mythbusters project, but it’s absurd how short some episodes get when cut down. Iirc there was one that was cut down to 11 minutes of actual content.

ares35, (edited )
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

cable is still the cash cow for companies that own content, have networks, and streaming services (comcast, disney, etc), who cannot apparently make a profit off their streaming services. imagine that, selling your content on the open market made more money than locking it all behind your own paywall.

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Cable shifted to low information viewers across the board decades ago. Dumb people watch commercials I guess.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They’re making people watch commercials on the streaming services now too. There’s really only one solution left, matey.

Dethedrus,

This chair be high, says I!

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

My popup blocker works on streaming so no commercials there.

TheHolyChecksum,

Your popup blocker?! What year is this, 1999?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That doesn’t stop, for example, Amazon showing you commercials for other Prime shows before showing you what you want to watch.

Smeagol666,

Worse, Hulu advertises the fucking show I’m currently watching.

Kecessa,

There’s a skip button and at least it’s for their own content. If they remove the skip button and start advertising unrelated products then fuck em

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Paramount+ doesn’t have a skip button, but I already gave them up.

aard,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

That was one of the reasons why I was watching pirated versions of the Amazon shows even when I was paying for prime.

vexikron, (edited )

No sir, I am a good Christian Man, raised right.

Whats my favorite Veggie Tales song, you ask?

We are the piiiiirates

Who dont do anything

We just staaaay here

And lie around

Er um. Yes. Just a catchy tune! Nothing relevant about my online activities here sir, nope ;)

Potatisen,

Spastic

LetThereBeR0ck,

Look, I’m just asking you to do anything

vexikron,

Fine.

bathes in yogurt while licking a sparkplug

dingus,

Kinky

vexikron, (edited )

I mean Larry is a cucumber, and I have heard that country gals make do with what theyve got.

agamemnonymous,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

And I’m just telling you, we don’t do anything

WordBox,

And I’ve never been to Boston in the fall.

hydrospanner,

All the people watch commercials, but it wouldn’t surprise me if there was a correlation between the kind of person that can watch stupid reality shows for hours on end and the kind of person who watches those ads and it actually translates into them spending money on the things in the ads.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Probably so. I don’t know if home shopping channels are still on the air, but there were people who watched those religiously. I remember when TV switched over to digital broadcast, there was a big to-do in the town I lived in because a bunch of people watched a low-power broadcast station that broadcast a home shopping channel 24/7 and they wouldn’t be able to watch it anymore since it couldn’t afford the upgrade.

FeetinMashedPotatoes,

I love you weather channel, never change weather channel

phoneymouse,

My friend is a meteorologist for the government. He hates the weather channel. I’m not a weather nerd, so I guess I don’t understand the gripe.

spicytuna62,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

I lived for Local on the 8’s

FeetinMashedPotatoes,

Ugh the nostalgia, takes me back

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Back when we had cable, my wife would just leave the Weather Channel on as background noise.

spicytuna62,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

My wife says her mom used to do that and now she can’t hear Santana’s “Smooth” without thinking of The Weather Channel.

VieuxQueb,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s mostly ads now !

LEDZeppelin,

Enshittification IRL

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

Enshitification is just a symptom of capitalism. It’s been happening in real life forever.

Lemjukes,

The only thing new about it is the name.

Norgur,

MTV has been all over those "reality" shows and candidate shows since at least the late 90s though.

Hey, I'm Bam Magera and this is Jackass Roomraiders where Xibit builds flat screens into your entire house for no reason after we had a hot girl go through all your embarrassing shit while you waited in a car of some kind outside watching together with your adversaries who go absolutely apeshit about anything that happens, also UV sperm detection light.
NEXT

sangriaferret,

MTV invented the reality format. The first few seasons of The Real World were innovative and novel. Then the execs realized how much cheaper reality was to produce and flooded the market with garbage until it was all we had left.

Banzai51,
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

MTV’s downfall started when they got rid of all the Music freaks in the C suite that liked music and hired TV producers. Then we got Remote Control. We didn’t realize it at the time, but that was the downfall of MTV. Once those TV execs realized they could make non-music content, we got The Real World. It was OVER.

sangriaferret,

Remote Control was probably the first program not about music (I remember LL Cool J quipping that they didn’t have questions about the radio) but I think it was still in the spirit of the youth culture and edginess of early MTV. But, yeah, it likely marks the time at which the execs decided they had to “innovate” new programming that strayed from the format that made people watch MTV in the first place.

That said, I don’t think they knew the monster they were unleashing when they created The Real World.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. Although it still did music videos for at least a few hours a day until the 2000s. VH1 was a holdout for a longer time. Does that Canadian MuchMusic channel even exist anymore? We got that when I used to have DirecTV. It had a fun early low budget MTV feel to it which I knew was not destined to last.

proctonaut,

Watching headbanger’s ball when I got out of work in 06/07 is a fond memory.

sangriaferret,

I used to record Heabangers Ball and 120 Minutes and edit together my own vhs mix tapes. About 15 years earlier )-;

ZombieTheZombieCat,

I vaguely remember MuchMusic becoming Fuse at some point

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It was a fun channel. My favorite memory is having the lead singer of Barenaked Ladies come in and play foosball with the VJ. They said he could request any video he wanted, so he requested Mr. T’s Commandments, which is an (I think unintentionally) hilarious video where Mr. T does a Christian rap about honoring your parents while beating people up.

CowsLookLikeMaps,

RIP Discovery Channel

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

In the 80s, if you got up really early, like 5 am, Discovery would sometimes just put a camera on a professor giving a lecture. It was pretty cool. I guess we have YouTube for that sort of thing now, but you even make a suggestion like that to a Discovery executive now and they’d probably try to murder you.

BeigeAgenda, (edited )
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

As I recall back in 2003 when MythBusters started there were still some okay shows left but it went downhill quickly from there.

I haven’t been able to find a good list of Discovery schedules by year, that would make it clear when it became reality only.

The good shows I remember from the 90s was:

  • Dinosaur! and When Dinosaurs Ruled with Bob Bakker
  • Connections with James Burke
  • Beyond 2000
  • Time Team
  • WW2 documentaries
FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Discovery showing Time Team made me a lifelong fan. Most of the old episodes are on YouTube now. They have a Patreon to fund new episodes. They aren’t as good because Tony doesn’t host them, but they’re still fun.

eager_eagle, (edited )
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

Cable execs: I see your point. In 2024 we’ll be introducing trash reality shows that feature the weather.

anonymouse,

I’d watch me some Tornado Alley Trailer Park Wives.

AA5B,

Cross it with Wizard of Oz, and you can get: Tornado Alley Trailer Park Wives on Survivor Island

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They don’t even need to feature the weather. TLC stands for The Learning Channel and no one learns anything from their shows.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

The only thing you learn from TLC is that you don’t want to watch TLC

Jaccident,

Well, in fairness to them, I learned I don’t want no Scrubs. Which is good as I think that aired on ABC

doublejay1999, (edited )
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

A scrub is a guy that thinks he’s fine

Bonehead,

That's absolutely not true. I've learned that I may be messy sometimes, but at least I'm not walking through goat paths of garbage. I've learned that I may be a bit of a fuck up that enjoys recreational drugs, but at least I'm not walking on sunshine. And I've learned that I may be bit overweight, but at least I'm not bed-ridden and disappointing my doctor. I always feel better about myself after watching a TLC show.

dragonflyteaparty,

I legit always thought it was Tender Loving Care.

4am,

I mean, it was definitely a play on the acronym

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve definitely learned how exploitative it is to force people in terrible life situations, many suffering from mental illness and/or some sort of past trauma or are just in a bad spot all around, to broadcast their lives for all to see and gawk at.

Oh you have a severe eating disorder that is extremely dangerous to your health? What a Freaky Eater you are! You also clearly have your Strange Addiction so we can exploit you twice for the same effort! Oh you’re not even living paycheck to paycheck and are dumpster diving behind the grocery store to feed your family? We got an Extreme Cheapskate over here!

bangupjobasusual,

The weather channel now is ads.

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

Television is shit

YouTube is shit

Samsy,

Social media is shit

Wait…

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

The fediverse is a Social Network not Social Media.

Samsy,

Pew, thank god.

son_named_bort,

C-Span then: empty chairs

C-Span now: empty chairs

st3ph3n,
@st3ph3n@kbin.social avatar

Also, insane people calling in on the phone.

I_Has_A_Hat, (edited )

“And now on the Democrat line, we have Bubba from Florida”

“Yea I’m one of them woke liberals and I think all us woke liberals need to get good with Jesus and start worshiping the one true savior, Donald Trump. Also, fuck them illegal immigrants that Sleepy Joe is letting im!!”

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I actually do watch C-Span (streaming) from time to time if there’s an important bill up for a vote. But that’s a pretty wonky level of keeping an eye on what the government is doing. I’d still rather have it than not.

Edgarallenpwn,
@Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social avatar

Wasn’t Bravo originally for performing arts? I thought it used to show theater productions and stuff like that.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It did. After A&E stopped.

CaptDust, (edited )

David Zaslav is the common denominator across all these examples, and now he’s in charge of Warner Bros…

grue,

Apparently, folks don’t realize that even The Weather Channel has already dabbled in trash reality TV.

Some famous enough to have their own Wiki pages:

Big list (pay attention to the ones marked “long form”): en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_…

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I certainly wasn’t. I guess the enshittification is complete.

db2,

Nope, you neglected the worst offender… SciFi, that they renamed to SyFy (and I pronounce “siffy” or “siffylis” now) that used to have good science fiction but decided WWE and ghost hunting was the way to go.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I still haven’t forgiven them for cancelling MST3K after only 3 seasons.

zod000,

Or Dark Matter!

The full list of good shows they cancelled or cut off early is long and painful to read.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

They went steaming: www.twitch.tv/mst3k?sr=a

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I know, but the rest of the history of the show is kind of bleak. They had two Netflix seasons before Netflix shitcanned them, then crowdfunded a successful (and terrific IMO) 13th season. This year, they had another crowdfunder, but they did it outside of Kickstarter and put minimal effort in, so it failed. I have no idea if the show will continue at this point. There is Rifftrax and The Mads, but they aren’t really the same. I need my puppets at the bottom of the screen!

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Man last I recall checking up on them is when they were just replaying star wars between random episodes of star Trek

AA5B, (edited )

NOw it’s Disney+ for Star Wars and Paramount+ for Star Trek. I was excited to find the trove of new Star Trek series the Pat for various reasons I didn’t watch in several years

I’m kind of afraid to know the answer about whether I was fooled by marketing …… when CBS tried to kick off their own personal streaming service with the new Star Treks, I refused to play that game. You’re not getting a subscription for every tv network. Now that the service is Paramount+, I’ll pay (for a while) to also get a studio’s worth of new and old movies. Please tell me there’s a real difference, and I wasn’t just fooled by re-marketing the same old shit

JCreazy,

Isn’t the weather channel just mostly ads now?

Antagnostic, (edited )

Trash reality shows that feature clouds.

Decoy321,

Always has been.

BeautifulMind,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I remember when the cable tv folks pitched cable like there wouldn’t be ads, vs. public airways that had to be ad-supported because there wasn’t any subscription for it. When they turned cable into ad wasteland I felt that like the fucking betrayal it was

Restaldt,

And one show being split up across multiple streaming services with only a few seasons on each service is why i have a jellyfin server now

Cable also ruined streaming services

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