I don’t play these games, but my kids do. And I am thinking (as a man), why wouldn’t I want my character to be a hot girl. If I an going to spend hundreds of hours staring at an ass, I would rather it be a hot girl ass.
If your main goal is just to create a character that looks as lewd as possible, that’s a little sus in my books. Preferences and all that, I know, but do we really need to add to the already prevalent objectification of women?
Edit: God forbid you actually question your actions, thoughts, and beliefs
Xiangling (the character OP is playing) is (in)famously meta, since she is easy to get, easy to play and very overpowered. All National and International teams revolve around her, and even random teams splash her because she’s just so good.
I will be one of the first people in line to call out someone for objectifying women, but these are cartoon women. I really don’t think it’s a big deal. I really think it’s okay to ogle a fictional ass. It’s not my thing, but it doesn’t hurt anyone. It’s a victimless crime.
If I have the choice, I like to have my protagonist as a woman because it’s just you know different from the norm. Like I chose a female shepherd in Mass effect and now I can’t see that character as anything but a badass woman.
What if I liked to make my female character as funny as possible because that’s what I find attractive, Is that objectifying them? What if I made them red headed for that reason, is that objectifying them? Objectifying is to treat a woman like an object. Liking a particular type of woman is your preference, not an objectification of women.
I’m was right there with you a few years ago. My daughter plays, and I was sure to point out how it was catering to male fantasy and all that. But then I took her to some conventions she asked to go to. Do you know what I saw. More women then men.
And there was a space of computers that people could stop and play genshin and the like. Again more women then men. And the women were all playing genshin while the guys were playing games with more zoomed out interactions. It turns out that women are a big part of the reason for the intricate costumes on female characters and such. I still don’t know what really to make of it all, but I do know my first impression of a game just objectifying women for male pleasure is not accurate. And don’t get me started on the female cosplayers at these conventions.
Thanks for taking the time to write out a response. I think it might depend on the game and some games are probably “better” examples of what I meant. As long as it’s equal for both male as well as female characters, I don’t mind at all since that would be equality then. But in a game like Monster Hunter, some armour sets are just quite… exposing. Like, you’re fighting giant monsters, dragons and what not, but it’s probably a good idea to run around with an exposed chest and legs whilst the rest being covered by armour. The definition of armour is really loose then, I feel like.
As long as the armour/outfit fits in with the game world, I don’t mind too much since you can come up with lore reasons for why a certain piece of clothing or armour is designed the way it is. However, there certainly examples of both where it’s quite obvious that they’ve been designed for the male gaze first and foremost.
Totally agree. Viva la dirt does some great and hilarious videos about female armor in games. And some games really go overboard. I just found that it wasn’t as one dimensional as I originally thought.
For sure! It’s a tough line to walk sometimes. I guess I’d rather be a little more cautious personally. I wasn’t trying to attack anyone - just voicing my thoughts. Didn’t excpect this comment to be received as negatively as it was.
Eh sometimes people just see a downvote and they all pile on. I thought your comment was very reasonable and added to the conversation so I undid one of them, even though I don’t necessarily agree with it. Keep doing you friend. Happy holidays!
I’ve always thought we should have two types of vote. Agree/disagree and something about quality. I like to see opinions I don’t agree with. It is valuable info and makes things less of an ech chamber. But the internet is the internet.
Exactly! Why does everything have to be sexual at all times in games? Male gaze is a thing, and it’s kind of shocking that people are so seemingly ignorant about it. Just go watch porn lmao
It really was just a joke. But at the same time it doesn’t have to be about being horny or climaxing. Aside from any teenagers present most of us don’t get a hard on just from seeing a pretty girl. It can still be more pleasing for us to look at a pretty girl (if that is what we prefer) without getting horny.
It can still be more pleasing for us to look at a pretty girl (if that is what we prefer) without getting horny.
You do you. Certainly not shaming. Still, I do find everything is being sexualised nowadays;
Ads, thumbnails, films, music, video games—almost the entire internet. Ever tried scrolling through All on Lemmy or Reddit? Won’t take long for you to find erotica or something of the likes. YouTube and Twitch are even worse. Women creating content whilst partially showing and thousands of men throwing a bunch of money at them—or time for that matter (which gets them ad revenue). Not much different from OF if you ask me.
The problem is you can’t escape it. And it’s affecting children as well. They see all of it and think it’s normal. Take a glance at TikTok and you’ll understand.
In the end, I’d rather play a game for its story and gameplay instead of playing it for the “boobs and vags”. There is enough of that already.
Yeah, it really is everywhere. I am constantly telling my daughter that it isn’t normal. I personally don’t play those types of games either. I am more satisfactory, portal and such type games. I only know about them because my kids play and I pay attention to what they play. I am only a year or so away from having to explain how fake porn is. I don’t know if the schools discuss that or not, but they probably should given how easy it is to access, and how many parents don’t want to talk about it.
Regarding Genshin’s large female audience, (1) there are a lot of hot male characters, (2) its two sister games have a lot of gay / lesbian characters, and therefore a large LGBT fanbase, and (3) the Genshin community is (relatively) friendly and casual, since there is no PvP.
I had this same username on Reddit for awhile and I got hit up by guys a few times. Like, dudes - it’s a fucking Kids in the Hall sketch. I am not an actual chicken lady.
I played a female character in Metin 2 when I was somewhere around 12 or so. The game was ultra p2w and I got some dude to pay for all the good stuff for me. Later I blocked him because it got really creepy.
I personally connect with people easier through games. For me, it removes the feeling that I have to entertain someone through some branching conversation. There’s less pressure knowing we’re focusing on the same task or goal and conversations feel more natural based on what we’re doing or observing. It’s also helpful to see how people approach obstacles and how they handle/display their emotions.
Yeah, but none of that matters for a booty call, and it was just that on the pic, nothing more. She/he wanted a sex partner and asked the first person that was online in the game/app she/he was currently on.
I met my fiancée at a training thing for work. Everyone canceled except her her, me, and the teacher, so we had a lot of time to talk lol. We are getting married in a year and a half.
Congratulations I am glad it worked out well for you two /pos
I know some people have luck with them, that’s invevitable. I was just saying they aren’t great for most people and more so often are really bad for men’s self-esteem. Some great statistic videos go into depth with the dating pool ratios etc. to explain this.
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There was this mean thing people would say back in like the 90s, that the people complaining online win every argument because everyone who had success was busy being in a relationship.
I haven’t played online games in literally decades, but in the 90s, when I used to play MUDs, people used them to hook up (or just do the cybersex thing) all the time. I’m guessing the only big difference now is voice and video are in the mix.
Man, I’ve met partners I dated for years because of random shit. Reddit, random interactions on discord, and a few more. My parents met because of a convention my dad organized for a show that was off the air for a few years at that point.
Humans are social creatures and they do be socializing.
Yeah, but the pic is clearly about a hookup only. Dating apps are great for that, you just specify what exactly it is you’re looking for and you’re golden within a week or two.
I have this friend, he litelarly didn’t go out with us for 2 straight years because of dating apps. He once did some math on how many different hookups he had over those 2 years, it was well over 200. He’s not handsome or anything, not particularly anyway, or hung or anything like that. He’s just friendly, funny and outgoing. Women sink into that, just be friendly and funny and that’s basically it.
It’s not that hard really, even if you are not as outgoing and funny as him, you could still score once every 2 weeks or so… if sex is what you’re looking for.
Oh, and the main thing, don’t be a picker. Pickers go home emptyhanded.
Nah, I don’t think that’s common. A lot of men swipe right on every woman, get a match with something like 1% of those, get a chat response with 0.1%, arrange a date with 0.01%, and have 100% back out of the date. At least that was my experience for a couple months of using dating apps, lol.
That is true, but only if you’re looking for a relationship. Yes, women are picky when it comes to relationships (well, men as well, now that I think about it). If you’re honest upfront and just state that you’re not looking for something serious, just fun, trust me, women are a lot more open to those one night stands than relationships. Why? There are no strings attached. She gets off, you get off, hell, you don’t even have to buy her dinner or anything, just go over to her place or a motel, whatever, and just have a few drinks, smoke some weed, whatever, to get in the mood. After that, you/she leaves and that’s that. The idea is that there are no strings attached from the start, and that’s what’s attracting about this scneario. You don’t put too much effort into it. After that, she can go about her dating as if nothing happened. You bump into her at the store, you pretend you don’t know her… she gives you scared look maybe, like “please, I’m with my bf here, don’t ruin it 😬” and of course, you don’t. Why? Cuz she might break up with him and give you another booty call. Plus, it’s not fair, she was just trying to blow off some steam, so were you, what’s done is done, no need for everyone to know that.
Oh, and don’t mingle with married women… unless they’re some cockold couple or something like that. In any other case, married women are off the table. They usually have jelous/controlling husbands and you’re just asking for trouble fixing up a hookup with that woman. Always ask upfront if she’s married. She might lie, but hell, at least you asked and if you ever get that late night call from her hubby, you can always say that - I asked, she said she wasn’t married 🤷. If she’s married, drop her. That’s litelarly the only time you say no to a woman wanting a hookup.
The upper paragraph is for single men only. If you’re married, the ONLY women you actually want to hook up with are married ones. Why? She’s got as much to loose as you do if she decides to reveal the affair… so you both keep quiet.
Yeah, I get it… some people are just not witty or funny enough, or maybe pick their sexual partners… that’s cool as well 👍 😉.
But trust me, if you’re witty, funny and can strike an interesting conversation, even if it is just for a hookup, she will call you back. Of course, be good in bed, that also counts, but even if you’re not that good, she might still like just to hang out with you, and who knows, maybe at the end of the evening, you hook up again 🤷.
I am very good in bed. I have terrible self-esteem issues, so if there was any doubt there I would think I was the worst lover in history. And people definitely find me witty and funny. I’m just shit at reading people, I would tend to assume people aren’t interested rather than the opposite. I am getting laid at the moment so I shouldn’t complain too much, but I’ve always struggled between (admittedly very attractive) partners. It’s very annoying.
I’m just shit at reading people, I would tend to assume people aren’t interested rather than the opposite.
Yeah, have made that mistake myself as well. I was born with that part or my brain lobotomized as well, but I learned to compensate for it over time. Like I’m also naturally (I would say I have a gift for it) am good in bed (always take care of my partner’s needs and wants, easily adjustable to whatever she wants, can read body languange easily, can go on for a long time, but this primarily because I like to edge 😁, though I don’t share that with hookups 😂), so that kinda strikes them as “wooow, he doesn’t look like it, but this guy is reeeally good”. And I really am nothing to look at, like I have a beer belly (not too big though), beard, long hair, body hair, not that good looking (not ugly either)… you could say I look kinda like a biker dude, but the conversations, being funny, making jokes left and right, yeah, that catches their attention.
And yes, I forgot to mention that part as well, selfasteem. Really important 👍. Act like you’re a million bucks even if you aren’t. She says she’s not into guys with high selfasteem? Trust me, she’s lying… or she’s one of the few that finds that repulsive in a male, but those kinds of women are weird, so I wouldn’t want her anyway. In either case, you should defininitely make a strong appearance. Not too strong though, like a chad, cuz that can be repulsive, I admit, even for males. But, a good dose, yeah, just enough for everyone to be comfortable with you and get her interested.
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