GiddyGap,

50°C is very hot. 0°C is very cold. 25°C is perfect.

Hadriscus,

Weirdly how that works much better lol

IDontHavePantsOn,

That almost works but 50c is a but quite a bit higher than very hot, 25c is 5c over perfect, and 0c is just regular cold.

GiddyGap,

I guess temperature relative to comfort level is subjective.

IDontHavePantsOn,

I guess that might be what I was poking fun about.

nixcamic,

I’ve lived in 3 different countries in like 5 different climate zones and none of them had temperatures that fit nicely in the 0-100⁰F range.

bigschnitz,

I’m similar, but two of the countries I’ve lived in are Australia (Victoria, central QLD and NorthWest WA) and the USA (Texas and Pennsylvania), so I’ve lived in 6 very different climates (also lived in the UAE)

The only one of these that got even close to 0°f was Pennsylvania, which over a few years has a few nights that dropped below 20°f, which was slightly less common as Victoria and central QLD seeing 120°f. WA and UAE frequently saw 120°f in the summer, a similar rate to Texas seeing 100°f (where I was) this last summer.

I doubt there are very many places where you’d reasonably expect to see 0°f and 100°f in the same year.

nixcamic, (edited )

Where I live now stays between 30 and 90F. I lived in Saskatchewan and it would go between -40 and 100F. Crazy weather. Closest was maybe Denver but even Denver gets into the -20s F regularly.

ferralcat,

I grew up in Iowa which would see 0f and 100f every year easily. Now I live in Bangkok which is basically just 90-100 year round. I’m not sure Celsius helps either that much. But outside Iowa I haven’t cared much about the temp outside ever either.

nixcamic,

But Iowa gets well below 0f which is my point, people who say 0-100 encompasses outdoors temperatures well live in a very specific area.

0ops,

I dunno, here in the Rockies that doesn’t sound that weird. High altitude, low humidity. We’ll get at least one or two 100+ heat waves in the summer (106 is the hottest I’ve seen here), and in the winter it can drop below zero at night. Granted, the last couple decades has made the former more common and the latter less, so I don’t know if we’ll see sub 0 this year. It used to be pretty common though

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

North Carolina spends its summers in the high 90’s and its winters in the high 20’s. We nearly never hit 0°F.

Dianoga,

It works pretty well for Minnesota. In a normal year we’ll have a few days that fall out of each side of that range.

Fridgeratr,

As a Wisconsinite, 50° IS perfect!

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

as a minnesotan 50° is pretty fuckin warm in this months

starman2112, (edited )
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fahrenheit is the best human-focused temperature scale. 0 is super cold, 100 is super hot, 50 is the line between short sleeve and long sleeve weather (assuming no wind). Anything outside these bounds, it simply isn’t worth going outside. But then everyone at a latitude <|37|° will say “that’s not that hot” and everyone at a latitude >|40|° will say “that’s not that cold,” so really it’s the best Kansas-focused temperature scale

psud,

Because weather is simple, right?

Custoslibera,

“It’s snowing so climate change can’t be real!”

Bleach7297,
@Bleach7297@lemmy.ca avatar

Look, you’re entitled to your opinion but I think it’s a bit Kansocentric.

bjorney, (edited )

“the perfect scale”

Proceeds to list completely arbitrary temperatures and link them to completely subjective opinions

I can make all the same points about celsius with the added bonus of 0 and 100 being universally applicable and objectively measured

  • 0 freezing
  • 10 cool
  • 20 room temperature
  • 30 hot
  • 40 very hot
starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah I guess I agree, 0 to 40 makes much more sense in the context of temperatures humans typically exist in than 0 to 100

Kusimulkku,

“It’s the best scale if you happen to live in the perfect conditions for it”

RagingHungryPanda,

No, it’s logarithmic. 70 is perfect.

littlecolt,

Too hot.

funkless_eck,

this meme also works in Celsius.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

0°C is not very cold… chilly maybe.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Tbh all I care about with wether temp is wether it’s possible to snow or not. So on that front Celsius is quite intuitive and useful.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

1 or 2 to about 5°C is snowing temperature. Yes, I agree, quite intuitive.

I like the snow. I like cold, in general. I hate summers, I’m always too hot and sweaty.

Siegfried,

45 is very hot, 0 is very cold, 22.5 is ok

Burninator05,

Ok is -273.15 C.

SuddenDownpour,

Nice.

snugglesthefalse,

22.5 is about the point where it starts being too warm

Threeme2189,

In a few years, with global warming on the rise, we may be saying that 50C isn’t that hot.

FML

zik,

We see 50C in Australia from time to time now thanks to global warming.

criitz,

Very hot in Celsius is like… 35

XEAL,

Fuck, you’re right

Thorry84,

Not to defend Fahrenheit, it’s a nonsense scale, however: As with most subjective scales the entire scale can be split into good and not good. The top part is good and the bottom part is not good. The middle of the top part is seen as average good.

So around 75 degrees would be perfect, which is close enough for something as subjective as temperature.

This is why in things like movie or game reviews a 7/10 is seen as average. Like it’s good, in the good part, but right in the middle not anything special. A 5/10 or lower is seen as not good, not worth seeing, not worth your time etc. This works for reviews, grades, person attractiveness rating etc.

Norgur,

Yet, Temperature is not a nonlinear star-rating by IGN, is it?

Crozekiel,

Can you prove that?

Thorry84,

Are you saying global warming is actually caused by the bias of IGN reviewers?

Norgur,

The flooding of Amsterdam was really epic, 10/10 IGN

doggle,

Why not? Most people only meaningfully engage with temperature scales when checking weather forecasts. It’s all pretty subjective.

If course there’s a need for Celsius or Kelvin in scientific applications, but that’s not for the overwhelming majority of people.

psud,

but that’s not for the overwhelming majority of people.

Surely you’re aware that the overwhelming majority of people do not live in the US. Nearly everyone is fine with Celcius. Billions of people, as opposed to a few hundred million that have been socialised to using the other scale

jenny_ball,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

i appreciate your level headed analysis

GBU_28, (edited )

75 perfect?

Well at least you have the right attitude the way our climate is headed

thedarkfly,

I checked for others who, like me, are too European to understand the joke: 50°F is 10°C.

Valmond, (edited )

A nice swedish summer evening (if it isnt raining).

Edit: cheers my fellow scandinavians and nordics!

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why wasn’t I born in Sweden 😭.

de_lancre,
@de_lancre@lemmy.world avatar

Or a nice winter in the Balkans.

RedIce25,

Perfect for me would be more around 20°C

CallumWells,

You mean to say that 50 °F is (approximately) 283 Kelvin, right? ;P

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s just about perfect if you ask me.

Siegfried,

Ah, 10 is fine…

florge,

You mean too rest of the world

Nythos,

Shorts weather that one

ByteJunk,
@ByteJunk@lemmy.world avatar

The hero we needed.

MartinXYZ,

I checked too before I saw your comment, I can confirm.

Hadriscus,

Thanks bro I was about to ask

ChicoSuave,

Fahrenheit is like school grades: 60 is minimum tolerance and beyond 100 adds nothing but misery.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Hell yeah C’s get degrees while perfect A students tend to burn up in the world

Zehzin, (edited )
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Anything past 85F adds nothing but misery.

About 30C to the people who use real units

vaultdweller013,

Is it bad that this association exists in my mind because of a Kids Next Door joke?

lugal,

That’s not how school grades work were I live but I guess I now understand Fahrenheit

joyjoy,

With school grades, when you get >100, you get bullied by your peers

FlickeringScreens,

10 C sounds pretty good to me

TeckFire,

20°C is where it’s at

psud,

16 is fine. 16 and sunny is hot, 16 and windy is acceptable shorts and short sleeve weather

Aux,

20 is better. 30 is better still.

psud,

You must be from a hotter place than me

Aux,

I’m from Latvia, fuck cold weather! And that fucking winter with snow can go to hell!

psud,

Ah, so you’re missing summer as you head into the coldest part of the year, while I’m coming out of winter and summer is looking too hot. I can agree that 20 is great

Aux,

I moved from Latvia a few years ago. Because fuck winter. I’ll never see it again.

theblueredditrefugee,

Inb4 nonlinear temperature scale

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the only way this meme makes sense. It’s a complaint that humans don’t like the average of the temperates that produce the feelings of extreme hot and extreme cold. You’d have to change math, change physiology, or lose linearity.

theblueredditrefugee,

Nonlinear measures are used for

  1. Brightness of lights
  2. Loudness of noises
  3. Magnitude of earthquakes

Why not temperature?

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

None of those scales have negative scalars.

theblueredditrefugee,

Actually, earthquake magnitude can be projected to negative numbers. It’s well defined but it stops describing earthquakes. For instance, a -3 magnitude earthquake is the energy released by a cat knocking your cell phone off of a nightstand. (see page 290 of this book). Pretty sure the others are also logarithmic scales which are well-defined for any negative number. It just so happens that those negative numbers don’t describe anything we care to describe with those scales.

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

That negative number comes from taking a logarithm of a number less than one. Not from a negative scalar.

EyesInTheBoat,
@EyesInTheBoat@lemmy.world avatar

Every time someone brings this up, another decade gets added until the US switches to Metric

NaoPb, (edited )

You mean another eagle and five hamburgers.

elscallr, (edited )
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Weather/room temp wise we probably never will. I’d rather think of my environment in terms of 0 to 100 than in terms of -18 to 38. For science and engineering, Celsius is ideal, and I can convert between the two in the very rare occasion I need to because I’m not an idiot who can’t do basic math.

ferralcat,

Celcius us a horrible scale for science or engineering. The world literally explodes when water freezes.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Oh shit I better pull that ice out of my freezer then, I about blew up the world

Sanyanov, (edited )

That’s entirely a matter of habit. There is nothing special about 0°F (random point in the cold range?) or 100°F points (random point in the hot range?), you’ve been lied to.

We don’t think -18°C to 38°C, we think -50°C to +50°C (regular Celsius weather thermometer, covers almost any temperature observed on Earth), with 0°C differentiating between snow/ice, “wintery” weather, and rain/mud, “non-wintery” one. That’s how we know whether to take umbrella (no point if it snows, hat is your best friend), what kind of shoes are the best fit - cold-resistant or highly waterproof - or which kind of jacket is gonna fit the situation. Melting point of water is actually incredibly important weather-wise and entirely ignored by Fahrenheit scale.

When it’s not winter, normal range is 0-40°C, with 20°C designating comfort temperature.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Aviation is already backwards; aviators give distance to travel in nautical miles, visibility in statute miles, altitude and runway length in feet, speed in knots, weight in pounds, volume in gallons, and temperature in celsius. My favorite is the standard adiabatic lapse rate is given as 2°C/1000 feet.

basxto,
@basxto@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

For science and engineering, Celsius is ideal,

The SI base unit for temperature is Kelvin with 0 K being the coldest possible temperature. 273.15 K is the melting point of ice. But it’s a lot better suited for temperature differences. Celsius is only a derived unit.

And well, all units and measurement systems had a lot of changes over time because some things turned out to be impractical or inaccurate.

Initially Celsius had 100° as the freezing point of water, 0° as the boiling point of water. Fahrenheit had 0° as the coldest temperature he could produce and the (wrong) average human body temperature at 90°. Kelvin was initially defined via Celsius, that got reversed, they have the same scale. There is also Rankine, which starts at 0 like Kelvin, but uses the Fahrenheit scale.

And the US partially uses SI units anyways, all units are derived from them to use their superior base unit definitions. This system came into existence to have unit definitions that are better reproducible and change less over time. Since everything was redefined and all numbers changed anyways, they also tried to make use of the “new” decimal representation of numbers. And new unit names were nice to create some general units, in contrast to foot and pound, which were always different from place to place, at times even from city to city.

I don’t expect the US to ever switch. The US switched to international yard and pound instead of switching to a decimal system. After US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa agreed on that one, all countries who remained using these units had a uniform definition for them. Since then you don’t need to know any longer which yard or pound it was. Though not all units got standardized by that.

And some countries didn’t drop all old units and metricized some instead. Even SI kept the ton(ne). You can’t know what 1t exactly means without knowing the context, it can be 2240lb, 2000lb or 1000kg (~2204.6226lb).

Filthmontane,

It’s the perfect temperature for brine though

Aux,

Depends on a brine. If it’s for raw meat, I’d lower it to 4°C. If it’s for vegetable fermentation, I’d bump it over 16°C. Actually I don’t know what 50F is good for. It’s 10°C, just a miserable temperature.

Filthmontane,

But if you were a brine solution, you’d be feeling great at 50°F

Aux,

I don’t have an imagination.

zoostation,

Related, but how is it that our normal body temperature is just below the point where water boils? That’s counterintuitive.

SwallowsDick,

Body temp is 98.6° Farenheit. Water boils at 212° F, if I recall correctly. That’s 100° Celsius.

zoostation,

Haha I’m dumb.

Wilzax, (edited )

Indoor temp? No. Outdoor temp? Yes!

Aux,

No and no.

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