Instead of guessing, looking at the log might help. Launch the game with PROTON_LOG=1 %command% set in “Set Launch Options” setting in the game properties. The log file will appear on your home directory.
Magica is claiming an issue with VCRedist, Orcs Must Die 2 doesn’t close on its own so no log, Serious sams and painkiller don’t show any problems. The rest isn’t using proton.
It’s a long shot, but sometimes when I have issues with proton which I can’t figure out, switching from Wayland to X11 (or vice versa) magically fixed it.
Imo, Chris Titus should just stop making Linux content… His windows content is genuinely useful, yet his Linux content boils down to "arch and debian good, ye old packages good, Wayland not ready, snaps/flatpaks/everything else sucks, Gnome bad, gnome bad (again), fedora bad… He’s the literal definition of a gatekeeper.
my first switch from x to wayland was on the pinephone and that convinced me to make the big jump elsewhere. that feeling of snappiness you describe, from not having all the screen refreshed all the time i gues…?
I’ve been using Pop!_OS for about a month now and it’s been great! I only had one issue (completely my fault) which caused me to have a black screen upon login after a reboot.
Linux noob here. Why do people refuse to use the proprietary driver? I did not had any seriousl issue with my 2080ti on Nobara. I can game and edit videos with better performances than in windows with same pc
using external kerner driver (“out of tree”) come with caveats you need to take care of
typically most linux distros will do this completely transparent but certain usecases will be more complicated
espcially if you install packages outside of your linux distro repository like a newer kernel version or an older Virtual Box version
I’ve been using Linux for over 20 years and I don’t get it either. I don’t know why a vocal minority get so fixated on it. It’s not like it’s the only manufacturer with proprietary drivers. As long as the drivers work and are easy to install I don’t see a problem.
I’ve used ATI/AMD cards equally over the years and I’ve always ended up having more problems overall with them than with Nvidia cards & drivers. If I were inclined to generalize I could say that open source drivers are apparently lower quality, right? 🙂
But that would be just as silly as the other way around. I don’t think that open or closed drivers, in itself, automatically says anything about quality.
If closed source drivers really were a problem then Nvidia wouldn’t be used by 80% of Linux gamers.
You are lucky if you can play without a crash for even one minute with that card. I am not exaggerating. Something is seriously messed up with the 20XX series.
Also Wayland is still a mess for Nvidia cards overall which is becoming more and more important.
Weird. I’ve tried about 12 games, they all work perfectly. Only in one case, I had to switch to an x session. Wayland is super responsive, only some small visual glitch from time to time. Da vinci studio edits and render videos super fast.
According to a ProtonDB user the specific crashes I am referring to have been finally fixed with 545.29.02. So two weeks ago for a 5 years old card. Good job Nvidia!
I would have loved having that earlier, because I threw mine out after all the frustration with Nvidia and I still doubt that it is fully working now.
Don’t get me wrong it’s great for others stuck with Nvidia hardware though. I would never ever recommend buying any Nvidia hardware for Linux though. The experience is miserable compared to AMD.
I have had so many issues with Nvidia drivers, especially on laptops with Optimus. Black screens after booting, random breakage when updating, having to fuck around with OpenGL libraries all the time when you have integrated Intel graphics and Nvidia graphics on the same system. It’s just a pain for me on laptops.
Wouldn’t be such a big issue on a desktop, but I’ve had a work-provided workstation with an Nvidia and 99% of the time if something broke on that machine, it was because Nvidia wasn’t compatible with some updated kernel or libraries.
Intel and AMD have both provided us with a painless driver experience that just works out of the box all the time and is integrated in all the open source things (mainly the Linux kernel and the Mesa libraries for OpenGL & Vulkan). With Nvidia, you need to throw all that out and use their proprietary blobs for OpenGL and Vulkan.
Also, I just think Nvidia is a scumbag company, trying to force single-vendor proprietary solutions on the market by abusing their dominant position (pushing CUDA while refusing to implement any new OpenCL version for over a decade, so software vendors couldn’t just pick a competitive open alternative is one example, the original G-Sync is another). I prefer not to give them any money if I can help it.
Nvidia Optimus has come a long way on Linux. Manjaro and Mint have utilities to enable it out of the box.
THAT SAID
We still have to prepend all programs we want to use the Nvidia GPU with prime-run. I’m not sure if mobile AMD users have to do the same, but this is legitimately annoying as hell this many years later and would actually be a good reason to pick AMD over Nvidia.
I’m not sure if mobile AMD users have to do the same
No we don’t. Mesa and the kernel automatically decide to use the dGPU for intensive tasks. It is only on rare ocassions that I have to use the DRI_PRIME=1 to force the use of the dGPU. It has been months since I last did it
There is a strong desire to see if there is secret sauce in the driver that makes their cards so darn performant. Could it be applied to other video drivers?
To audit for vulnerabilities and fix them.
To allow the driver to use some kernel internals that the kernel developers keep trying to wall proprietary drivers off from.
Ideology
Community might be able to hack it to work better with Wayland, since the Wayland team has no interest in extending any kind of support to proprietary driver driving GPU’s… despite x11 working just fine forever. … see Ideology.
Its a proprietary driver, which could be an insane security and privacy risk. Its a modification to your kernel, normal on Windows, but not on Linux. It basically makes Linuxes security model weak.
I’m very new to the Wayland vs Xorg: could someone tell me why having a compositor work as a compositor, server and client (window manager) is a good idea? Doesn’t this limit customisation? If someone wants to create a window manager, they’re going to have to implement a lot more software than just their product. I thought abstracted software with stable interfaces was king in software, other than having performance issues (I believe Wayland solves some of these problems).
So, if I’m on IceWM/Ratpoison and want to switch, do I manually convert my config, or do I have equivalent WMs in Wayland?
There is nothing stopping a Wayland compositor from exposing an interface that would allow for a choice of “window manager”. In fact, wlroots could almost count as such a compositor - it implements the bulk of a compositor, but none of the bits of a window manager. Of course, Plasma and Gnome also allow window managers to be integrated as plugins, but I presume that is not what you want.
It is not like the X window manager idea is impeccable either: To name one thing, picom or other compositors could display much nicer and context aware animations if only the window manager interface was not like it is.
Yep. I switched from xorg/i3 years ago, and it was already super snappy back then compared to the previous setup. Today everything works with Wayland, and I don’t really need to think about it anymore.
But, ymmv. I avoid Nvidia’s products, which helps a lot for the stability.
I find that I prefer a graphical environment to understand what’s going on, then a keyboard-focused environment (usually text based) once I reach the point that I know what to do and want to increase speed and repeatability.
I don’t ruthlessly reduce mouse use, but I prefer to stick the keyboard for a handful of reasons: speed, comfort, reducing the likelihood of repetitive stress injury as I age, and flexibility. If my trackpad fails and I can’t find a mouse, I can still do what I need to do.
If you do a lot with your keyboard, it is annoying to get your hand off it and switch to your mouse. And then to switch back. If a task can also be done with the keyboard, you can just stay there and that is quite comfy.
I’ve been using a Tex yoda ii for years and I love it. If you want to avoid leaving “home row” nothing beats a 60% keyboard with a trackpoint! I just bought a Tex Shura but haven’t tried it out yet.
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