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the_q, in Linux Audio Nerds, Take Notice — The Fedora Audio Creation SIG is being revived

I think the real issue with audio work on Linux is the complexity of getting things working. MacOS and Windows are both much easier to work in with dealing with audio stuff and much like Adobe 's stranglehold on potential converts having to jump through so many hoops for an arguably worse experience really keeps some people at bay.

bluGill,

If you use a linux audio distro linux is easier than windows. Everything works out of the box, not weird drivers to install with all their bloatware.

Try to do it manually is hard, but there are some great pretuned distros that make it easy.

the_q,

Oh yeah you’re right there, but what I’m getting at is having a system that does everything you want is, I would assume, preferred. I run Pop and have it setup with my Audient EVO and it works well with Reaper, but getting it to that point was a pain.

RooPappy,

If you're choosing to do audio production in Linux, the odds are that "easy" wasn't your top decision criteria. lol

Personally, I recently hooked up my Berhinger USB audio interface to Mint, and Ardour and Audacity saw it immediately. I was impressed. I was ready to google around for how to use lusb and dmseg and shit because I never remember what I'm doing.

the_q,

Ha yeah you’re right.

tkn, in Is PopOs a good option if i don't want to tinker much with the OS and do some basic tasks as web browsing etc?
@tkn@startrek.website avatar

I was a Pop user since it first shipped until this year when I switched to Fedora. I still use the Pop Shell extension for GNOME as, IMO, it’s the best tiling extension. Full stop. It’s easy to install and use and is well organized. If you have Nvidia, choose the ISO with the drivers pre-installed. My switch to Fedora was predicated on the fact that I generally use enterprise laptops and 2in1 devices, which is one of Pop’s blind spots when it comes to reliability. Fedora is just dead stable on whatever I put it on, whether its a Latitude 7200 2in1 i7 8th gen or a ThinkPad T400s Core 2 Duo.

I guess Fedora’s an option, too 🤣

simple, in VanillaOS 2.0 (Orchid) Alpha Build 84 Available Now

Never really understood Vanilla OS. Why use this compared to other immutable distros like Fedora Silverblue?

Secret300,

Their package manager interest me. From what I’ve read it seems I can install any app from any distros repo and it’ll set up the container for me

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

You can run containers that are integrated such as android, arch, etc

Guenther_Amanita, (edited )

Which isn’t an unique feature of VOS. You can do the same on Fedora Atomic or any other distro too with Distrobox and Waydroid.

BUT, I like VOS’ implemention. It’s nothing special, but still neat!

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

agreed

MonkCanatella,

Yeah but that’s true about any linux distro. if you can do it on one, you can most certainly do it on any others

Pantherina,

Better Distrobox tooling I think. Actually pretty cool, that has to be ported. Silverblue is the better base imho.

Guenther_Amanita,

I’m a huge fan of Silverblue, but VanillaOS still looks pretty promising.

It doesn’t have much unique to offer imo, but it seems to be “the next Mint” in how I see it.

It has a similar philosophy (user friendliness and reliability), but kind of a different implementation.

Mint tries to archive that by looking similar to Windows UI-wise and being “stable” (in terms of a conservative release cycle).

VOS archieves that by looking simplistic (appealing to younger folks like myself) and being immutable + self managing.

Both are valid, but the key difference is that Mint is “old fashioned”, while VOS tries to use new technologies for it’s goals.

CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV, in Metal music with Linux?
@CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world avatar

There are some DAWs like Ardour and LMMS for linux. The bigger issue is plugins. They are mostly NOT for Linux. There are some but the selection is not big. You can use a VST-bridge like Carla. It worked for me, I could use proprietary windows based VSTs in LMMS on Linux. However, I wanted to go fully FOSS. This is rather difficult. You make it sound like there are a bunch of open source plugins. This was not my experience. Especially not if you are looking for more specific things. If it is like that, shit has changed radically for the best the last two years. I had some coding projects related to music production so I would just try to build whatever I needed. But I dropped these projects unfortunately.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I am very pleasantly surprised so far, but that’s because my expectations were so low that I was shocked that ANY plugins even exist. With the way prices are going when it comes to music software, I expect to start seeing rapid progression in the music FOSS space.

crank, in THUNDERBIRD: the SUCCESS STORY of LINUX! - 6.4M in Donations
@crank@beehaw.org avatar

Client like thunderbird is good if you always use the same desktop/laptop machine to do your email. If you are using multiple devices like school, friend, work, library or even mobile it totally breaks down. To say nothing of system failures, breaking or losing the machine etc.

Most people who love TB have a setup that has been stable for 20 years. Good for them, it suits their needs. But the contempt with which they seem to hold the majority of the population for whom TB would be a totally unsuitable choice is rather unpleasent.

Ever notice how rarely you see someone saying “I switched to TB from webmail 2 years ago and its great”?

Too bad, as i would absolutely love to switch the floss desktop/mobile clients and have tried to do so on a few occasions. They are simply not compatible with modern communications habits.

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’m a heavy Thunderbird user and to be honest, I don’t understand what you’re saying at all? I have multiple private mail accounts and a work mail account and I use all of them on multiple machines with Thunderbird but also with different clients (e.g. FairEmail on Android) as well as webmail (at least for my work mail I use it sometimes) and I never experienced any problems. What exactly do you mean? I mean, I do have an export of my thunderbird profiles (maybe not up to date, though, tbh), but more so out of comfort than necessity. Without this export, and in the unlikely case of a system failure, I would have to go through the process of adding my mail accounts (server, password, username) by hand and that’s basically it

crank,
@crank@beehaw.org avatar

If you want to filter all mail (on a specific mail host) from host.tld into a specific folder, how do you create the filter?

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Sorry, I kind of forgot about lemmy or a few days. In Thunderbird, I create a new dedicated folder, use Tools --> Message Filters. I then can add the desired filter (something like must cotain at least ‘host.tld’ in sender) and make it move all filtered mails into the previously created folder. I just checked, it works (you can also specify when that filter should be executed (e.g. when getting new mails or every 10 minutes) and the folder with the filtered mails also shows up in FairMail on Android. Better description: …mozilla.org/…/organize-your-messages-using-filte…

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

As someone else pointed out, maybe you’re thinking of POP instead of IMAP? I basically have all my mails on the host’s servers (including folders) and just synchronize using my different clients

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Sorry if my comment comes off as rude, I’m just genuinely curious

crank,
@crank@beehaw.org avatar

no rude, it’s what forum are for :)

Patch,

I’m not really sure I understand this post.

I use Thunderbird on several machines, and I use broadly the default config (no fancy business). I also have the same email accounts set up on my Android phone (Gmail ones on the native Gmail client app, an Outlook one on the Outlook app). When accessing my email on a machine which doesn’t have Thunderbird set up for me (such as my corporate laptop), I just use the webmail interfaces.

And it all works…fine. why wouldn’t it? Thunderbird and the Android apps just send their service calls off via IMAP and it all sorts itself out without any fuss from me. All the data lives off in the cloud anyway; it’s just a different way to interact with it other than the web interface.

I just happen to like having all my email accounts in one combined place, running in the background and throwing system notifications.

giloronfoo,

I think they’re expecting thunderbird users to use POP instead of imap, Gmail integration, OWA, or other protocol that expects the mail to stay on the server.

Leaving the mail on the server has been great in Thunderbird since the Mozilla days. I did jump to Gmail web app a long time ago though. I’m assuming Gmail support has improved in the last 15 years?

lud,

Does anyone still use POP?

kilgore_trout,

I switched to TB from webmail 1 year ago and it’s great.

There you go.

stolid_agnostic, in Mozilla Firefox 120 Is Now Available for Download, Here's What's New

Just restarted FF lol

silmarine, in THUNDERBIRD: the SUCCESS STORY of LINUX! - 6.4M in Donations

ELI5 please, why would I use thunderbird over a web client? I have used a local email client in years but it seems everyone uses and loves thunderbird.

flyos,
@flyos@jlai.lu avatar

If you don’t have multiple email accounts, then probably a webmail is fine. If you have multiple accounts, and require some advanced email features, then a local client is often more efficient. Unfortunately, because the majority of people are fine with a webmail, those clients are not attracting much activity for development and Thunderbird itself almost died some ten years ago.

smileyhead,

May I ask the opposite? Why use JavaScript client from the web instead of desktop ones?

Most operating systems, excluding Windows, are shipping with decent native and fast email client. They are automatically updated with the system, again excluding Windows, integrate with other apps (for ex. right-click and share with mail), can store messages offline just in case and are overall nicer to use.

The only use case I think of is when using someone’s else computer and you don’t want to remember to log out, because browsers have “incognito” mode.

safefel556, in Firefox Is Going To Try And Ship With Wayland Enabled By Default
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  • safefel556,

    concise list of criticisms
    “ramblings”

    This is why wheyland is destined to fail. The fact that criticisms can be dismissed as ramblings explains a lot of things.

    danielton,

    This is a rambling of how Wayland supposedly forces everybody to use GNOME, which is BS.

    The rant even includes an admission that the author didn’t even know what Wayland was when it was written.

    RTRedreovic,

    Judging by post & history. They are just a troll. As for this article. I don’t understand why anyone bothers sharing it. It is one of the most hot garbage ones I have seen. Most of this article gives arguments that are either old, have no relevance here or are just plainly cherrypicked (the jitsi one for example, open the link and see the last comment, that they quoted). Most things are also application side issue with no relevance for wayland devs. “Oh my app does not work in wayland? Must be wayland’s fault!” This is a rubbish logicless argument. If one wants to not use Wayland, they are welcome. But things like “Boycott Wayland” are irritating to those who do want to use Wayland because they know how Xorg is.

    Lojcs,

    Oh my app does not work in wayland? Must be wayland’s fault!

    Aka Python 3 isn’t Turing complete

    danielton,

    Please add more examples to the list.

    How about an example of Wayland forcing me to use GNOME like this rant alleges? I hate GNOME but have been using KDE with Wayland for like two years now.

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    Same. Not to mention that there’s window managers in development if people prefer that. Some examples I know include Sway for those who want something like i3, Wayfire for those who miss Compiz and Hyprland for a more polished tiled experience. Hyprland in particular I’d recommend as I’ve personally had no luck with X.org compositors like Picom - didn’t work with my GPU.

    redcalcium,

    The one that bother me the most about Wayland is the future of *BSD desktop. Can you run Wayland on NetBSD/FreeBSD yet? Also, currently you can run x server on Mac so you can run X11 apps remotely for example. Is there any attempt to make waypipe work on MacOS?

    Audacity9961,

    Yes, FreeBSD already allows running Wayland. On my FreeBSD box, I have run it just fine.

    OpenBSD are also working towards it.

    I’m not sure about NetBSD.

    Audacity9961,

    FreeBSD runs Wayland just fine. I run it on one of my boxes.

    OpenBSD is also working on Wayland support.

    NetBSD I’m unsure of, as their development pace is quite slow.

    theshatterstone54,

    Literally just posted a response to this article: feddit.uk/post/4608014

    cypherpunks,
    @cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

    it’s weird how this gist was updated 3 hours ago but still contains lots of claims that haven’t been accurate for years

    leo,
    @leo@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

    Seems they need some updates. OBS, Zoom and Xfce are all happy to work toward Wayland, and OBS/Zoom both work pretty well on it, so 🤷

    And no telling what else has changed since; checks notes; 2016?

    Lulzagna,

    Obs works fine for me, what’s the issue,?

    eager_eagle,
    @eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

    last i checked (a week ago) screen capture in OBS wasn’t working on Wayland KDE

    PainInTheAES,

    It’s been working for a while unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean by screen capture. But I’ve been using OBS on KDE Wayland capturing via portals for months now with issues.

    Ineocla,

    It works. You simply need the kde portal and pipewire installed

    zurohki,

    I just tried it. Create a “Screen capture (PipeWire)” source, there’s a popup asking you to pick a display or “Full Workspace” which shares everything.

    leo,
    @leo@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

    There really isn’t one. Wayland is maturing and app support is following.

    This is the way things always go in open source. I’m betting soon there will be a distro that will announce a never Wayland stance just like Devuan prior.

    fl42v, in Can I mod my Thinkpad Keyboard to work in another laptop?

    Technically, you can try, but I doubt it’ll work ootb even if the connectors are the same. It would be kinda easier to use smth like an arduino/rp2040 board and connect it to one if thr unpopulated USBs on the board (check if there’s a schematic available, they often leave stuff like ribbon cable connectors for, day, a smort card reader, which is basically USB but 3v3 power)

    abadbronc, in find, grep, sed, and awk

    I wish I could grep my car keys sometimes.

    palordrolap,

    Back in the 80s/90s there were keyrings that would play an alarm if they heard a whistle at a particular frequency. You're basically playing Marco Polo with your keys.

    I assume they lost popularity because the batteries tended to run out at inopportune times. Batteries are better now. Maybe it's time those things made a comeback.

    abadbronc,

    I remember those! I think the comeback version is the Tile or AirTag but I’m too old to hear them beep.

    theshatterstone54, in It's Official: Linux Kernel 6.6 Will Be LTS, Supported Until December 2026

    Why couldn’t it be 6.7, which has bcachefs?

    GreenMario,

    Cuz 6.6.6 is coming 😈

    ryannathans,

    So is christmas

    k_rol,

    Same

    Chewy7324, (edited )

    It’s initial bcachefs anyway, which doesn’t support all features yet and still needs a lot of work. I wouldn’t run bcachefs yet on any system where an LTS kernel is necessary.

    ryannathans,

    What is the use case for bcachefs? ZFS exists and btrfs if you need to froth over licencing

    aBundleOfFerrets,

    Faster or something. I am personally peeved they took the tiered storage thing out of it because in my eyes that was it’s claim to fame

    EddyBot,

    typically it’s based on the last kernel release of the year which gets promoted to LTS, not because of certain features

    duckythescientist, in would it be illegal to download Ubuntu on a Chromebook?

    A point that I haven’t seen in the other comments is to make sure you fully own the Chromebook. If it’s on loan from your school, or if it’s provided by your work, then you may be bound by some acceptable use agreement and therefore not allowed to modify the OS.

    scytale, in Is PopOs a good option if i don't want to tinker much with the OS and do some basic tasks as web browsing etc?

    Yup, that and Mint are your best options for distros that just work out of the box.

    Meuzzin, (edited ) in Package up and transport a linux?

    Let’s do the Time-shift again!!!

    Timeshift

    Father_Redbeard, in Is PopOs a good option if i don't want to tinker much with the OS and do some basic tasks as web browsing etc?
    @Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml avatar

    Yes. I just switched full time to Pop and I love it.

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