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smileyhead, in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Another not-Linux Linux based operating system. Can’t wait to argue same as with Android and ChromeOS that this is not like “real” desktop Linux looks.

We really should stick to calling it GNU or something.

jcarax,

Definitely not GNU, that’s even worse than calling it Linux. We should simply call it by it’s own name, Vega or whatever it ends up being. Android is Android. ChromeOS is ChromeOS. We can acknowledge they utilize the Linux kernel and some other open source code, and as such give some back. But they are not what we refer to as Linux, as that is a spirit as much as if not more than it is a collection of software.

LeFantome, (edited )

I completely agree.

An OS is defined by its ecosystem ( applications, users, and philosophy ). Everybody knows what an actual Linux distribution is and the kinds of desktop environments ( eg. GNOME, KDE, XFCE ) and applications that Linux implies ( eg. Docker, Podman, Emacs, GIMP, OBS, LibreOffice ). It does not matter if the C library is Glibc or MUSL. It does not matter if things were compiled with GCC or Clang. It does not matter who wrote the version of ‘ls’ installed. It is not confusing when somebody tells you they are using “Linux” on the desktop, the server, or the cloud. You know what they mean.

Saying GNU / Linux does not add any clarity in my view and could be confusing or wrong. If you use Alpine in the cloud, you are using Linux ( very clear ) but not GNU / Linux. If you are using Void on your desktop, you are using Linux ( but maybe not Glibc ). Is one version of Void Linux called GNU / Linux and the other one isn’t? It is not a useful label other than politically.

Android and ChromeOS use the Linux kernel but are not Linux distributions by any useful use of that term. If I switch you from Void to Arch, you could use it for hours without noticing the change. You might not notice until you went to update software. If I moved you to Android or ChromeOS, you would certainly notice right away. In some ways, Windows is a more similar environment than Android is.

If I say, “I use Linux”, you do not have to ask me if I mean Android or if I have a Chromebook. People that don’t “know” that these other systems use the Linux kernel would never make that mistake. The “confusion” is artificial.

As a non-Linux example, is there anybody that is confused that the XBox uses the Windows kernel? Even if I say “I game on Windows”, would you honestly wonder if I meant XBox? Or would it be super obvious that I meant on a PC?

If I say, “I game on Linux”, you again know that I do not mean Android or ChromeOS ( unless I am purposely trying to be arrogant or funny about it ). You might ask if I am using a Stream Deck but, guess what, the Deck also boots into KDE. It really is Linux.

My Nest thermometer and my IP camera both run the Linux kernel as well. Do we need a special name for them? No. Nobody is truthfully confused by that either. Would we call them GNU / Linux even if they use Glibc? I hope not. So what does GNU / Linux even refer to outside of the political meaning?

hperrin, in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Cool. Another OS to avoid.

Cyberbatman,

This is the best description for everyone

franklin, (edited )
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Agreed. If it was any company at all except Amazon there would be hope but come on. We’ve all seen what they did to the fire sticks

AbidanYre,

If it was any company at all except Amazon there would be hope

You won’t be saying that in a couple months when Facebook makes their own announcement.

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah fair, not ANY company

ElBarto, in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hahahaha cool, Linux with ads and tracking and all the spyware you could ever want.

thanksforallthefish,

So just like android ?

gzrrt,
@gzrrt@kbin.social avatar

Minus the sandboxing and security improvements, apparently

DoucheBagMcSwag,

And no sideloading

trachemys, in Introducing UTF-Random — Making Unicode Fair

UTF-32 is completely fair.

ares35, (edited ) in Best lesser-known distribution/DE for low-end machines?
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

c2d era laptop. first step if you haven't yet, swap the hdd for a low-cost sata ssd if you can. if you have some homeless sodimms, up the ram, too, if it won't cost anything to do it.

if you're going with mx, you want the fluxbox spin; or opt for antix with icewm instead.

otherwise start with a debian base install (no de or extra sw at install), then add only what you need. peppermint is another option--a basic debian with xfce out-of-the-box and little else. it's what i've been using lately on similar hardware.

for something 'different', you could look at slax.

mfat,

Thanks. I’ve already added an ssd drive and upgraded tge ram from 3 to 4gb. Another comment mentioned Icewm so I’m definitely giving it a try.

toastal, in System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop

1920×1080 FH

Not 2k. Not 16:9. Probably doesn’t even cover DCI-P3 or decent color accuracy. Folks are gonna keep thinking Linux is a geeks-only thing if you have terrible panel that’s bad for content creation.

lud,

1920×1080 FH

Not 2k. Not 16:9.

How isn’t that 19:9?

And QHD isn’t really necessary on a laptop imo.

I still won’t buy it though.

toastal,

I have had 1080, 4k, & 2k laptops in my life. 1080 text is blurry. 4k is obviously overkill wasting battery on pixels you can’t see. 2k has crisp text without so much wasted density & you have to get unreasonably close to the panel to tell the difference.

pit,

1080p is 2k. From Wikipedia: “2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having a horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.[1] In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output and defines a 2K format with a resolution of 2048 × 1080.[2][3] For television and consumer media, 1920 × 1080 is the most common 2K resolution, but this is normally referred to as 1080p.” (emphasis mine)

toastal,

You are correct.

I meant “2.8K (2880 × 1800)” or thereabouts but misremembered the naming.

authed, in Have I successfully blocked ssh logins to root?

Did you restart the server after you made the config change?

cyberwolfie,

Yes.

Shareni, in What is the easiest way to try all the DEs?

Arco -B has the widest range of DEs and WMs at install that I’ve seen so far. Almost all of them are modded to have a unified control scheme, but the appearance is usually close to vanilla.

siph, in Have I successfully blocked ssh logins to root?

What @StarkZarn said is correct. Just one more thing: Did you reload/restart the sshd service after changing the configuration? If so you should be good.

cyberwolfie,

Yes, this is something I did when setting up the server some time ago, and as a step in the process I rebooted the system after changing the config.

hesusingthespiritbomb, in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

If all the apps are in React Native I feel like they are gonna have a bad time. If you’re not careful React Native apps have bad performance, and Fire TVs don’t have a lot of performance to spare.

Guenther_Amanita, (edited ) in How to download ALL dependencies for an external .deb package (rescuezilla)?

Install Distrobox first and work inside that container.

Messing with dependencies of a program not in your package manager can result in bricking your OS (which will take some time to fix and that will be annoying).
In DB, all dependencies will be self contained and your host OS will stay clean. You can imagine it similar to how Flatpaks work.

Then, follow the other’s procedures.

iturnedintoanewt,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

Thanks! How does this work with OS permissions? As it’s rescuezilla and veracrypt I’m trying to use, both need access to the system partitions in order to be able to mount/read/copy to them. Flatpak can be a bit limited regarding permissions…Moreso on a live iso I guess.

Guenther_Amanita, (edited )

DB only gives you the dependencies, but is otherwise not sheltered. It still has access to all host OS files, including hard drives and other stuff.

Sadly, I’m not super experienced with it, and I use it on an immutable distro, where can’t change that much, at least nothing on the root level.

You would have to read the documentation or google it yourself sadly, I’m out of luck here for you.

I still hope my suggestion was successful :)

MDKAOD, (edited ) in NVIDIA Linux Driver Adds Wayland Bug Fixes and Improvements

“hey here’s news. Maybe. I can’t actually tell you. It’s just what I was told. This hasn’t been relevant to me since it once was. But here’s a blog post about it. I like cheese.”

filister,

Your point being?

misophist, (edited )

Really weird article. A bunch of snarky comments from the author that add nothing to the conversation. “It’s been a decade since I touched an Nvidia card, so I’m just giving you the info I read in a changeling. Couldn’t tell you if it was true or not, so fuck you!”

filister,

I am also not a fan of this website, but NVIDIA proprietary drivers are notoriously bad especially with Wayland, so I was thinking that people might find it useful and upgrade their drivers.

null,

It’s weird that you’re being this defensive about it.

The other commenter wasn’t chastising you for posting the article, they were commenting on the article and the author of it. Nothing to do with you.

MDKAOD,

Nailed it. Sorry @filister, definitely was not a commentary on your post.

aquasteel, in Best lesser-known distribution/DE for low-end machines?

I used to use slax, I don’t even know if it’s still around.

mfat,

It is, and i guess it’s now based on Denian.

Grant_M, (edited ) in Best lesser-known distribution/DE for low-end machines?
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

Bodhi! Another I’ve found to be lean is Zorin Lite

ipsirc,
@ipsirc@lemmy.ml avatar

*buntu can’t be counted as lightweight.

TheAnonymouseJoker, in GNOME Recognized as Public Interest Infrastructure
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GNOME is well deserving as the most polished and optimally performant DE. GNOME is so good, Windows 11 copied its workflow, layouts and even the taskbar right-click menu with 23H2.

simple,

and optimally performant DE

Except it’s the worst DE in terms of performance. Using KDE instead of Gnome made a big difference in my weaker laptop.

TheAnonymouseJoker, (edited )
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

GNOME is the best performing modern DE outside of lightweight nice DEs. KDE is by far the worst alongside Deepin. KDE is so crap, I had to turn off all the animations and compositor to bring CPU usage from 70 to 10-15%. This was a stock Debian 12 KDE setup on i5-7200U. GNOME in comparison idles at 1-2%, max 3%. XFCE and LXQt sit around 0.5-1%.

KDE is an absolute mess and is a hobbyist DE in comparison to the professional GNOME.

simple,

GNOME is the best performing modern DE outside of lightweight nice DEs.

This is straight up not true, GNOME is a memory hog and uses almost twice as much as KDE. I’m idling ~4% CPU usage on an i5 7300HQ, which is just barely better than yours. There’s a reason the Steam Deck opted to use KDE and not Gnome.

KDE is an absolute mess and is a hobbyist DE in comparison to the professional GNOME.

As someone who used gnome for two years, hell no. Gnome is trying too hard to be minimalist and is lacking basic features that you have to use extensions for. Extensions which, by the way, break each update and have their own bugs. I also had to use gnome tweaks for basic crap like disabling mouse acceleration. KDE is a much more polished experience for people who actually use computers, but gnome is okay if you’re just looking for something simple that looks smooth.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
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GNOME is a memory hog and uses almost twice as much as KDE

It is unfortunate that every GNOME critic lives in 2015, and stick to those unhinged biases.

Steam Deck’s decision to use KDE has nothing to do with performance, but with customisation of UI, which is also why they use custom compiled Arch to modify every nook and corner of what Deck runs.

7300HQ has about 1.7-2x the performance of 7200U, according to PassMark. cpubenchmark.net/…/Intel-i5-7300HQ-vs-Intel-i5-72…

KDE is a much more polished experience for people who actually use computers, but gnome is okay if you’re just looking for something simple that looks smooth.

Its cool and hipster to be delusional, but when things get professional and you want stability and performance, GNOME is unbeatable. Nobody in the real world cares about the fancy one zillion features of KDE outside hipster hobbyists.

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