The icons you hate are icon set specific. I haven’t tried tinkering with them (I don’t actually use them, most of those plugins that come by default on most distros are removed on my installs), but I think you can change icon sets… or maybe themes (some themes also hold icon sets).
So, basically, you should install new icon sets and/or themes to get new icons and just pick one that you like, unistall the rest. Your default repo should hold most popular themes and icon sets for xfce.
PS: Some things may be inacurate, but I’m not much of a graphical person, I usually use xfce with default settings and maybe Greybird Dark as a theme. I leave everything else to default, whatever the defaults may be.
hey there, i have done that already with both changing themes and icons and that only affects everything else but those few icons that never change. it’s very weird
Hm, that is weird… they should change with the theme…
I don’t know if there is an xfce comm here on Lemmy, but if there is, it’s best to ask there, since this is an xfce specific thing (KDE or other DEs may implement this differently).
EDIT: There is, !xfce, but the last post there is from 4 months ago 😔.
Xfce is cool, I use it on all my installs. But than again, I have never tinkered with themes that much or tray icons 🤷.
Try Void if you’re not too afraid of the terminal 😁. The repo is pretty good and stuff mostly works out of the box. If they don’t, you just need to configure them correctly.
I may give Linux Lite a try, which is of course xfce based. Void I hear is very good, but after researching it a bit, I feel it’s more complicated or advanced than what it appears. more for like advanced users that really know how to work linux. i’m more intermediate.
The funny thing is though, I wasn’t as advanced when I jumped ship, but I never felt lost in it either. Like with Ubuntu and similar distros, things are fairly simple, but once you start getting nitty gritty with the system, start tinkering and whatnot, things just start not working. Like I was banging my head why this particular app just can’t access the internet, when all of the time it was ufw that was blocking it 😒.
What really pissed me off was the sheer number of apps that got installed allongside the main sustem. Like LibreOffice, maybe I didn’t want that installed on my system. And systemd seemed way too slugush and buggy for my taste, I really wanted something simpler and very easy to configure and run. So Void fit in there perfectly. Just xfce with some basic apps and plugins, that’s it.
Also, one of the main reasons why I bailed ship regarding conventional distros was dependency hell. You try and compile from source and there is always some dependency that’s outdated and just doesn’t compile 😒. This really really pissed me off, cuz I wanted to use the rig for, let’s say encoding, but the x265 lib in the repos was outdated. I wanted the latest, cuz I also wanted to test the progress of x265… things like this really grind my gears and I decided that conventional distros are probably not for me.
You mention ‘the settings’; though it’s ambiguous whether you looked at the desktop’s, wm’s, or panel’s settings – the relevant settings are the panel plugins’ own little settings widgets, which you can call from a right click menu on the panel plugins themselves.
It’s a bit convoluted; though that’s the so called ‘trade-off’ for Xfce’s modularity.
Yea, sorry for being so vague, it’s just the only way I know how to describe it. panel edit mode or whatever, because then each icon or tray all have their own settings. but anyway, every DE has their own different ways of editing panels and I honestly don’t have much XFCE experience, so maybe that’s why it’s been more difficult for me to figure out.
I use geany for coding in LaTeX, and occasionally teaching myself some programming stuff when I have free time. I’m aware it’s not a great choice for experienced programmers, but I don’t really need something feature-rich and extensive, so I appreciate the simplicity.
Client like thunderbird is good if you always use the same desktop/laptop machine to do your email. If you are using multiple devices like school, friend, work, library or even mobile it totally breaks down. To say nothing of system failures, breaking or losing the machine etc.
Most people who love TB have a setup that has been stable for 20 years. Good for them, it suits their needs. But the contempt with which they seem to hold the majority of the population for whom TB would be a totally unsuitable choice is rather unpleasent.
Ever notice how rarely you see someone saying “I switched to TB from webmail 2 years ago and its great”?
Too bad, as i would absolutely love to switch the floss desktop/mobile clients and have tried to do so on a few occasions. They are simply not compatible with modern communications habits.
I’m a heavy Thunderbird user and to be honest, I don’t understand what you’re saying at all? I have multiple private mail accounts and a work mail account and I use all of them on multiple machines with Thunderbird but also with different clients (e.g. FairEmail on Android) as well as webmail (at least for my work mail I use it sometimes) and I never experienced any problems. What exactly do you mean? I mean, I do have an export of my thunderbird profiles (maybe not up to date, though, tbh), but more so out of comfort than necessity. Without this export, and in the unlikely case of a system failure, I would have to go through the process of adding my mail accounts (server, password, username) by hand and that’s basically it
Sorry, I kind of forgot about lemmy or a few days. In Thunderbird, I create a new dedicated folder, use Tools --> Message Filters. I then can add the desired filter (something like must cotain at least ‘host.tld’ in sender) and make it move all filtered mails into the previously created folder. I just checked, it works (you can also specify when that filter should be executed (e.g. when getting new mails or every 10 minutes) and the folder with the filtered mails also shows up in FairMail on Android. Better description: …mozilla.org/…/organize-your-messages-using-filte…
As someone else pointed out, maybe you’re thinking of POP instead of IMAP? I basically have all my mails on the host’s servers (including folders) and just synchronize using my different clients
I use Thunderbird on several machines, and I use broadly the default config (no fancy business). I also have the same email accounts set up on my Android phone (Gmail ones on the native Gmail client app, an Outlook one on the Outlook app). When accessing my email on a machine which doesn’t have Thunderbird set up for me (such as my corporate laptop), I just use the webmail interfaces.
And it all works…fine. why wouldn’t it? Thunderbird and the Android apps just send their service calls off via IMAP and it all sorts itself out without any fuss from me. All the data lives off in the cloud anyway; it’s just a different way to interact with it other than the web interface.
I just happen to like having all my email accounts in one combined place, running in the background and throwing system notifications.
I think they’re expecting thunderbird users to use POP instead of imap, Gmail integration, OWA, or other protocol that expects the mail to stay on the server.
Leaving the mail on the server has been great in Thunderbird since the Mozilla days. I did jump to Gmail web app a long time ago though. I’m assuming Gmail support has improved in the last 15 years?
Hopefully they’ll build in support for disroot, fastmail, posteo, protonmail, tutanota, and other opensource encrypted mail agends that don’t provide a bridge.
Edit: so the summary of the video is “marketing”. Linux, KDE, and opensource projects in general need way better marketing. If Linux could rebrand itself as anything but “the geek thing”, I bet it would be much more successful.
Encrypted mail providers should require a bridge in order to be able to pull or send emails with. Protonmail has “Proton Bridge”, tutanota has nothing. I see now that disroot, fastmail and posteo have direct SMTP access 🤔 That leads me to question: what actually is encrypted? Direct SMTP and IMAP access probably means they can read your mail.
There is encryption at rest (storage encryption), transport encryption and end-to-end encryption. E.g. Posteo has transport encryption and optional storage encryption. With activated storage encryption, Posteo cannot read your mail because the encryption key on their server is only usable with your password (which they do not store). Proton Bridge adds end-to-end encryption to Protonmail
Well… Right off the bat, I can see what the problem is. You have totally mixed up entries for different releases of debian in there. It’s a wonder it hasn’t completely broken your system.
It kinda has multiple times. I tried installing a Wayland version of gnome and that ended up nuking the Desktop multiple times. Then to fix it, I just ran this in a TTY: sudo apt remove gnome sudo apt install gnome And that fixed the desktop (even my wallpaper and shortcuts were back, wow).
I couldn’t believe the spec of that pile of garbage the phone when i first saw it. The worst being that It has a Mali-400 MP2 (2 cores, the most famous and used varient is MP4 with 4 cores), a GPU from 2008. I know it’s supposed to run linux but they choose the cheapest SOC they could find and then asked the seller if he had any unsold SOCs from the last decade they could use instead.
The saddest part is that when I pointed this, I was always told that it’s made for tinkerers and not users, but this doesn’t excuse the use of extremely outdated hardware. I didn’t expect the latest powerhouse but even 30$ Chinese tvboxes had the latest rockchip SOCs…
The phone is from 2019 and i think even back then the SoC was a compromise.
It has more quirks. There have been some hardware issues. And mainline Linux and a Linux Desktop is still struggling today with power management. Like getting chat messages while it’s asleep. It’s really not for use except for tinkerers.
But I’d agree. A newer, properly usable and powerful Linux phone would be great. Idk if there are good SoCs out there with fully open-source drivers and bootloader. And power consumption that lasts you a day.
And mainline Linux and a Linux Desktop is still struggling today with power management. Like getting chat messages while it’s asleep.
And the really sad thing is that the power management improvements devs have been working on for the PinePhone are really very specific to that particular device and don’t help mobile Linux in general (so it’s basically wasted effort).
A newer, properly usable and powerful Linux phone would be great.
Totally ! Honestly, when i first heard of a linux phone, I had stars in my eyes. I expected medium-low tier specs but that would likely more than enough to for Linux. The actual specs made me cringe because the phone was e-waste before even launch. I think I actually over exaggerated calling it a piece of garbage, I just expected too much from a small company on a niche market.
AMD APUs are beasts !. That would be a computer disguising as a phone. Now, that’s what I would call a revolutionary product. Kinda like Samsung Dex but libre.
Well, let me put it plainly, if you are selling better, I’m buying. So far the one thing Pine has done better than a lot of people talking is doing. They are not the only ones, e.g Purism, but at that price range and who actually did deliver I haven’t seen better. Pointers welcomed.
Do you think releasing a phone with hardware that is 10 years ou of date is logical ? let’s transpose it to the laptop market. What if system76 sold a laptops with a Pentium 3.x Ghz Core 2 duo, 4GB ddr3 and a Radeon HD 3xxx GPU and a 240 HDD for the price of a current medium-low end computer ?
I’m not sure what your point is. I’m not arguing that you are wrong, I’m saying it’s “just” talk, meanwhile I’m ready, today, to buy better if you can provide.
I’m saying it’s “just” talk, meanwhile I’m ready, today, to but better if you can provide.
A 200 dollar Xiaomi phone or a used pixel phone is at least 10x more powerful than the pinphone. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting it, you can use termux and have a linux environment at hand. You can even install a DE and access it. Enjoy. The plus is that you don’t lose any compatibility with android apps .
I really hope you don’t go around telling anyone that is criticizing something to just make a better version, do you ? You don’t need to be chef to say bad food is bad. To make it easier to understand let’s transpose it again : There’s a novel motor design that is free and open source. Someone make a car using it and sell it but the car can’t go beyond 20km/h and has a range of 50km. Would you tell anyone that says it’s unusable to just make a better one ??
You focus on performance while I focus on the ability to tinker. That’s perfectly legitimate and we don’t have to have the same needs. It though shows me that we don’t have the same understanding about the point of Pine64, especially as you mention Termux or rooting (which I’ve both used and done numerous times, sadly) as if it was equivalent to selling an actual Linux phone in the first place. I actually do NOT want Android. The point I believe is not to sell a replacement for end users today (even though, clearly, it would be nice, and I believe Purism is closer to that) as it says on the product page, but rather show that a legitimate (again, not hacks) alternative is possible but it must be built by the community. And yes, I do tell people who make criticism that it’s not enough because very often it shows what I believe is the case here, a lack of understanding of what it takes. That being said, again, I sincerely enjoy being proven wrong (means I can learn, new opportunities), hence why I’m not teasing you when I say I can put my money where my mouth is if you can do better. I believe in fact that’s what open source is all about, we’re in it together, to do better, to be better.
Some positive news for a lot of Linux Mint users who have been complaining about the lack of Wayland support. However, as the blog post listed, it’s only going to be experimental in the next major update of Version 21. Still, it’ll be good to experience the change.
Also, very clever on the naming schemes used by the Debian and Mint teams for their stable and unstable releases.
Which is not a distro nor a display server but, like kde and gnome, a desktop environment. They are actively working on wayland support as can be seen here: wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
So just for clarification 😇
And I recognized now that this post was about cinnamon desktop environment, which comes with mint distro, and not the distro itself. So the comparison to GNOME would have been more fitting from my site (they’ll drop Xorg support soon, but still let it be installed in post).
So, yea, and then there is XFCE where we have no real clue when Wayland support is completely ready. But it seems like it could work with something called xwayland that seem to kinda emulate Xorg on wayland 🧐
Oh yeah, I was just mentioning them in general. The most exciting feature of their last big release was being able to change the clocks’ font.
I trust XFCE to bring in new features only when they are 100% sure it’ll work perfectly. That DE has been nothing but rocksolid for me, and I greatly appreciate that.
Though to push them a little bit, Xorg certainly has flaws when it comes to security, and since pretty much no one will make the effort of working on these flaws anymore, Wayland should be a higher priority for any distro or DE.
The pinephone is cool but so underpowered. Hoping to get some use out of of it as a audio looper controller. Looks like I can anticipate a sharp drop in support in the next year or two.
themes, plugins, ridiculously easy custom configurations/build commands etc you can even control the window manager from config files if you want to, its insanely customisable
lacks support for alot of things
edit: trying to sound less snarky, but do you have alot of examples?
i could see these criticisms arising from a quick glance. or we may have slightly different definitions of these terms. which is fair enough.
imo geany’s ratio of features to weight is remarkable, perhaps singularly so?
I just know I wasn’t able to get code suggestions, highlighting or error highlighting working. There might be a way but I spend a bunch of time on it and accomplished nothing. If there is a way it isn’t obvious
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