20% is a LOT. That’s probably because of the random shit that nobody ever asked for but windows is always doing in the background anyway. Building a search index, windows update (which consumes an insane amount of CPU for a completely unreasonable amount of time sometimes), other individual updater services (because there can’t be one program that updates everything because every vendor does their own proprietary bullshit to handle updates), compressing and sending all you personal data to microsoft and of course the pre-installed McAffee (on trial license) that works hard to make your system less secure (that HP probably installed for you because apperently you haven’t paid enough money for the computer, so you must pay with your patience and your privacy as well). Depending on the benchmark, the pathetic legacy file system windows uses might also play a role.
The Windows scheduler is so stupid chip manufacturers manipulate the BIOS/ACPI tables to force it to make better decisions (particularly with SMT) rather than wait on MS to fix it.
Linux just shrugs, figures out the thread topology anyway and makes the right decisions regardless.
I have to use Chocolatey, Winget, Windows Store and invididual updating to use the tools I need in Windows, It’s ridiculous. I only use Flatpak and Zypper in my Linux partition.
As others have said, there’s Vanilla and Endless, but both use GNOME.
Is there a reason why it has to be Debian? With an immutable distro, you won’t be using traditional package managers anyway (like apt), all have the same stability factor, and with the same systemd + KDE, it’s more or less the same experience regardless of which distro you go for.
One of the key usage patterns of an immutable distro is using a container to install your extra packages. So you could go for a Fedora-based immutable KDE distro like Kinoite, and set up a Debian container where you can use apt and other Debian tools.
Depends on the use case. I played around with it a lot and came to the conclusion that I don't like flatpaks and the base system is not flexible enough for me.
I use it as a self-updating desktop for my parents tho,. For that it's absolutely perfect.
It’s supposed to be tuned more toward heavy workflows, such as rendering and CAD. It has support for more RAM (6TB) and quad SMP along with ReFS, and SMB Direct.
I only found out about it because we needed a beastly set up for combining lidar and drone aerials in Autodesk.
Is there some reason to think that running Windows 11 Pro for Workstations would have made a difference in a CPU benchmark? I’m not seeing anything obvious on the feature list for that version that would make that be the case.
Go with T-Series not with E or L. Better quality of materials, comes with better warranty (you can get up to 5 Years), longer spare parts availability, and usually you can replace more by yourself.
True! T series or P series are much better made. I’d also advise heading over to Lenovo support site and checking the service manual for any machine you’re interested in, just to make sure that the features you may want to upgrade are upgradable.
I’ve noticed Lenovo doing a lot of SOC style systems ala Apple where your RAM is one and done. It’s mostly been on the thin/light segment but…
My biggest complaint has been the fact that they don’t put the USB C inputs on a daughter card. I don’t know what the cost savings is, but I literally had two machines that users had killed the USB on that spent close to 10 months waiting on parts for a warranty repair.
I have a T580 with nVidia graphics. Repairability is great. You can find a manual with step-by-step instructions for every part online.
But the thermals in that thing are awful. Especially on Linux and doubly so with the GPU. It has some stupid on-lap detection which heavily throttles the system to not burn the user. Up until a few years ago there wasn’t a driver for Linux so it always defaulted to on-lap-mode. But even worse, the GPU has some hardcoded 70° limit and it throttles down to the lowest clockrate when it reaches that. And it reaches that quickly because CPU and GPU share a heatpipe.
Nowadays I just run it on the integrated Intel graphics on Wayland and it’s great. But it would be cool if I could use the GPU that is at least theoretically able to run Doom 2016 at 30 fps. But practically it struggles with Quake 3.
It’s just a shame that you probably won’t know about these kinds of problems on a new laptop because people only notice them after a few months to years.
My main issue with Wayland is the fragmentation. Abstract protocol which could be implemented by particular DE/WM means nothing to a user which now doesn’t have a guarantee that their tools will work under all environments. For example, some screengrab utility could work under Gnome, but will not work under wl-roots based WM just because the relevant protocol is not supported there. That’s a major drawback to me, we lose flexibility and kinda forced to use mainstream DEs where they have enough devcapacity to support most of the features from Wayland protocols. Contrary to X.Org where most of the functionality is implemented by server itself and protocol exposed to the clients is way simpler.
To be honest, Ubuntu likely has nothing to do with it and I find the headline therefore misleading. It’s mostly the Linux kernel from how it reads.
Ubuntu 23.10 was run for providing a clean, out-of-the-box look at this common desktop/workstation Linux distribution. Benchmarks of other Linux distributions will come in time in follow-up Phoronix articles. But for the most part the Ubuntu 23.10 performance should be largely similar to that of other modern Linux distributions with the exception of Intel’s Clear Linux that takes things to the extreme or those doing non-default tinkering to their Linux installations.
Proprietary snap store backend that is controlled by Canonical: that’s it.
I used Ubuntu for years: installed it for family and friends. I moved away around a year ago.
Moving packages like Firefox to snap was what first started annoying me.
If the backend was open source, and the community could have hosted their own (like how flatpak repositories can be), I might have been slightly more forgiving.
Did a quick Google to find if someone had elaborated, here’s a good one:
It is also a commercial distribution. If you ever used a community distribution like Arch, Gentoo or even Debian, then you will notice that they much more encourage participation. You can contribute your ideas and work without requiring to sign any CLAs.
Because Ubuntu wants to control/own parts of the system, they tend to, rather then contributing to existing solutions, create their own, often subpar, software, that requires CLAs. See upstart vs openrc or later systemd, Mir vs Wayland, which they both later adopted anyway, Unity vs Gnome, snap vs flatpak, microk8 vs k3s, bazar vs git or mercurial, … The NIH syndrom is pretty strong in Ubuntu. And even if Ubuntu came first with some of these solutions, the community had to create the alternative because they where controlling it.
Serving files over HTTPS is not difficult to implement If anyone cared. Even if the cloud backend was open source you still wouldn’t use it. Downvote now!
I’ll add one more grip: Amazon integration. It’s been resolved for like 7 years now, but I still hold it against them a bit for placing Amazon search results in my desktop all those years back. Not that I don’t have an Ubuntu server running as we speak, but it still does taint them a tad in my eyes (and probably acts as an anachronism to the “it’s a corporate distro” theme of dislike around here).
Ahh, okay, so nothing new under the sun: Hipsters hate normies and September never ended.
Although I’m under the impression that Mint and Pop have taken a bite out of the “beginner desktop” market, Ubuntu is most of what I observe in the office when everybody else is booting Windows.
I can understand selecting for novelty; I’m usually in that camp. But novelty shouldn’t come at the expense of an argument to IT departments that they should support at least one Linux distro.
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