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Chewy7324, (edited ) in Just install EndeavorOS lol

I often use Arch in a container, when I need a fhs distro. EndeavourOS is great for desktop use if you don’t want to go through the Arch install process.

DeltaChat is an awesome messenger. It’s federated, quick and simple to use. Also, I didn’t realize DC was on the fediverse for so many years.

logir,

What do you mean Delta chat is on the fediverse?

Chewy7324,

I meant that Delta Chat has a mastodon account for at least 5 years: chaos.social/

jvrava9,
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  • Chewy7324,

    The first part is about the meme. Arch has it’s (dis-)advantages depending on the use case.

    I wrote the second part because OP mentioned they’ve found the meme “at deltachat”, which is a email-based messenger I use. It’s a topic adjacent to linux as it’s open source software with linux support.

    delta.chat

    imgel, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

    Only people with time to lose use Arch.

    Aradia,
    @Aradia@lemmy.ml avatar

    Once you learn about Linux, you go faster than any other noob. And that is very useful for programming/hacking jobs, faster than all those noobs with 0 knowledge about what is what.

    lemmyvore, (edited )

    Normally I have the valet bring the PC around but I let him go early today 'cause it’s his birthday.

    Aatube,
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    i disagree, aur save big time

    FaeDrifter,

    Once you have distrobox set up with an arch container, you have access to the aur no matter what distro ypu’re running.

    Aatube, (edited )
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    "i use <some other distro>"
    sets up arch inside some other distro just for aur
    run aur program inside arch
    "i use <some other distro>"

    Mummelpuffin, (edited )
    @Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

    And guess what? It won’t break like your over-complex Arch desktop because it doesn’t need to be.

    Aatube,
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    who said arch desktops were complex?

    Xavier, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

    That reminds me, some time ago I tried installing Garuda on a Ryzen 5800H based mini PC but there where so many issues (namely worrisome graphical artefacting, which has never occurred with other distros on the same mini PC) I had to abort and abandon trying it until maybe the next or a future release.

    I simply wanted to check out Garuda (arch based, if I recall well). I used the Cinnamon iso with Ventoy (not sure where the issue arose from).

    Holzkohlen,

    That’s weird. I have had zero issues with it so far (talking about distro specific issues) and I am running this with an AMD APU, Nvidia GPU, prime offloading on wayland. Works like an absolute charm. Though granted, this isn’t quite out of the box, you may not need to be a wizard to figure it out, but I would not recommended this to a noob.

    SrTobi, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

    Don’t know what people have? The last time wifi didnt work out of the box for me was like 2010

    interceder270,

    My Ideapad Gaming 3 with a 3060 didn’t have Wifi working out of the box.

    For awhile I had to install a kernel module everytime I updated Linux to get Wifi working. Thankfully I found what I needed on Github the day I got the laptop.

    Zangoose, (edited )
    @Zangoose@lemmy.world avatar

    Broadcom, it’s always broadcom’s fault

    abir_vandergriff, (edited )

    Ugh I had to get an obscure PCIe card working a few years back and it was a huge pain. I believe I ended up having to find the broadcom chipset by model because the generic brand driver didn’t support it, then the arch repos didn’t have the driver for the model, and there were several aur packs available that I had to try one by one. And it was kernel module loaded, so each was a reboot.

    Absolute hell of a time, probably about 5 years ago.

    brisk, (edited )

    I’ve got two Linux boxes that I got new, different, wifi cards for recently. Turns out both those cards have the same Intel AX200 chip which has had a variety of problems causing frequent dropouts that the community has slowly nutted out since I’ve had them, including requiring a kernel patch.

    The two big ones are a faulty default power saving mode, and problems talking to a Wireless n router when in WiFi 5 mode.

    warmaster, in /etc/fstab entry for Synology NAS

    Filesharing drove me insane.

    I ended up ripping the HDDs and putting them on my server, then proceeded to share the drives as normal. My docker containers now use them perfectly fine. IDK wtf Synology is doing but it’s cumbersome AF.

    billwashere, in TIL

    In my freshman year of computer science our main computer lab was filled with Sage IV machines. Basically a Motorola 68k series with 4 or 5 serial terminals. Most people were writing Pascal code or using a simple word processor. But god forbid you were on there with someone taking assembly language. Because they could write really stupid code with super tight loops that never allowed any other code to run, and the only thing you could do was reboot. So if you hadn’t saved your code you were fucked.

    So I never purposely wrote really bad code that would overwrite unprotected shared memory with random quotes from Marvin from HHGTG to mess with other people. I would never do that. That would have been unethical and shit… 🤔

    I did learn a lot of basic hardware and operating systems though so there’s that.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_Computer_Technology

    Xavier, in But Windows 11 is so good!!11!1!

    I have a single windows 11 system while everything else is on some form of Linux distro.

    That windows system has never been connected to the internet, and it has been great without ever causing any of the typical update issues (although I update applications/components manually over an isolated NAS link).

    It’s sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates. No wonder many people I know are jumping to the Apple ecosystem after getting a taste with a M2.

    TheKingBee, (edited )
    @TheKingBee@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates.

    I’ve never understood this problem, people talk like it has a mind of it’s own and i just don’t get it.

    I’m running windows 11 pro and have never had updates interrupt my shit.

    Updates show up in my system tray, then it updates overnight when i sleep.

    TheGrandNagus, (edited )

    Most don’t leave their PC on overnight.

    I remember when I went on my lunch break and came back to see my PC part way through upgrading to Windows 10, which I never agreed to. So yeah, Windows update can definitely act bizarrely.

    Pantherina,

    I mean… having updates that suck is not a good solution but for sure do every update please.

    Its just excrutiatingly slow, like 5min one time where Fedora Kinoite is more stable, doesnt fuck up other partitions and goes in the background while using the system!

    Android (GrapheneOS) is even better with updates in the background and very low CPU usage, one reboot and you are there.

    Or just regular mutable Linux distros seperating packages that dont need a reboot from packages that do.

    max, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

    I really like Debian I was using Arch before, but Debian looks better to me

    glennglog22, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
    @glennglog22@kbin.social avatar

    This is more or less my experience with it. My noob-ass just can't handle even EndeavorOS.

    Aatube,
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    What problems did you run into?

    glennglog22,
    @glennglog22@kbin.social avatar

    Trying to install a lot of shit, primarily. I figured out that a lot of programs that I wanted were only available (to my knowledge) in .deb format which I couldn't get working in the distro, That and I'm still not used to using the terminal to install anything. Literally the only thing I miss from Windows is using wizards to install things. I understand a lot of this is purely skill issue though.

    Owljfien,

    I found installing pamac and the enabling the arch user repository gives you most things that are debs, that of course involves using the cli to install pamac though

    interceder270,

    Manjaro has Pamac installed by default.

    Owljfien,

    I wouldn’t use manjaro with aur though, as it can fall a bit behind what most people posting aurs are building with

    interceder270,

    I haven’t had any issues and I’ve been using it for 3 years.

    Holzkohlen,

    But installing via terminal is so much more convenient compared to those stupid windows installer. Not to mention you don’t have to download all those stupid installers again each time you want to update, unless the devs provide their own update mention in the software itself.

    glennglog22, (edited )
    @glennglog22@kbin.social avatar

    I'm sure it is, but it's a matter of remembering/knowing how the commands work vs literally clicking labelled buttons.

    Also I'm sure if this was on Reddit, I'd be getting downvoted like crazy, so I appreciate y'all being helpful instead of doing that.

    boomzilla, (edited )

    yay SEARCHTERM

    It spits out all the packages with SEARCHTERM in its name or description. The packages are listed like “REPO/PACKAGE” , where REPO tells you if it’s from the official repos (core/extra/multilib) or from the AUR.

    Then pick the number of the package from the list and that’s it.

    If you want to update all your packages, even the AUR ones just enter yay and press enter on the follow-up questions. If you update with pacman -Syu then AUR packages won’t get updated.

    Also Octopi is a nice frontend for yay and pacman. Not as fancy as Discover or Pamac but it does its job well.

    Aatube, (edited )
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    Just using endeavour's bundled yay, you can install most packages including deb ones that users have written a "how to install" for. https://aur.chaotic.cx/ would also be nice.

    interceder270,

    Try Manjaro if you haven’t already.

    It’s more popular than endeavor, but has way fewer shills.

    Holzkohlen,

    Can’t wait for the manjaro bot network to DDOS the AUR again…

    Aradia,
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    That was Pamac right? 😂

    glennglog22,
    @glennglog22@kbin.social avatar

    I might consider it next time I have time to kill and the motivation to mess with anything arch-related.

    NoisyFlake,

    Since Endeavour is just Arch with a graphical installer and a few extra tools, I‘d say it’s way more popular.

    sharkfucker420, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
    @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

    I will always recommend Debian or Debian based distros to anyone new to Linux. They’ll find their way to arch eventually

    Arch btw

    smegforbrains, in TIL
    baduhai, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

    Wiki do not have answer

    ?? The arch wiki is one of the greatest Linux resources out there. Sure there may be situations where it doesn’t have the answer for something, but for a new user? It has all bases covered.

    MiddledAgedGuy,

    I agree. I don’t use Arch (I have in the past) but I use Arch Wiki heavily.

    Tlaloc_Temporal,
    @Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

    On one hand, the archlinux bbs had the only exact reference to the issue I was having. On the other hand, no one could replicate it enough to figure anything out. :/

    Titou,
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    im pretty sure the OP never took a look at Arch and just follow the hate movement

    Kushia,
    @Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s actually really great… if you know how to interpret and apply the information on it to your situation and adapt as needed. A good new user experience it does not make however.

    nyan, in /etc/fstab entry for Synology NAS

    As a wild guess, try completely specifying the IP address in your fstab instead of relying on a wildcard. Wouldn’t be the first time there was a slight difference in how a marginal feature like that worked in different contexts.

    Diplomjodler,

    The IP address in the actual file is complete. I just didn’t want to put it here. I guess I should have put another number.

    dannii_montanii, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

    Arch wiki is the reason I started using Arch. After fixing an install from something I found there for like the 10th time I thought “Why not give it a try”

    SexualPolytope, (edited ) in Just install EndeavorOS lol
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    For a total newbie, Linux Mint or PopOS are probably the best options. But EndeavourOS is getting there. There shouldn’t be any issues during the installation if one sticks to the defaults. Only thing is, it doesn’t come with a graphical package manager out of the box. But once that is installed (I think anyone will be happy to write a single terminal command, at least), I don’t see why it’s any harder to use than any other distro.

    andrew_bidlaw,
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    Mint, with any DE, does come with a graphical package manager. It’s as easy as any appstore. The only confusion is it suggests both it’s original and flatpack versions to install.

    I think you are talking about EndevourOS there.

    SexualPolytope,
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Yeah, I’m talking about EndeavourOS. I don’t see what got you confused.

    andrew_bidlaw,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Reading it in a linear fashion, you drop one distro after another without much distinction. I believe it’d be better if you serve EndOS it’s own paragraph since it’s so different.

    catsarebadpeople,

    Bruh

    andrew_bidlaw,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    What ‘bruh’?

    It isn’t hard to drop a <br> before one starts explaining a completely different OS.

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