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ryannathans, in It's OK if you cry

If you think that’s bad, try wifi on FreeBSD

KISSmyOS,

I’ve read that the only way to get usable speeds is to set your wifi device up inside a linux container.

MigratingtoLemmy,

set your wifi device up inside a linux container

Could you tell me how I could do that? I don’t think FreeBSD jails support anything other than the linux compatibility layer

KISSmyOS, (edited )
MigratingtoLemmy,

At least I found someone who likes Yorushika!

Cut her some slack, she’s barely 21. At 21 I was a nugget of dung when it came to technicalities like this

ryannathans, (edited )

Or to get anything past wifi 4, or to use 5ghz

It’s bullshit because there are many products on the market running freebsd with great wifi (PlayStation as one example)

0x4E4F,

Just goes to show you that permissive licenses are generally not a good thing 🤷.

ryannathans,

Meh, I still generally prefer them. Not like everyone would be able to use the PlayStation wifi hardware anyway

0x4E4F,

Each to his own ☺️ 🤷.

possiblylinux127,

Wait, what’s past 5Ghz

seaQueue, in It's OK if you cry
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus Christ OP use trigger warnings

CowsLookLikeMaps,

Broadcom
shudders

seaQueue,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

Broadcom looks good next to Realtek, and both of them stand head and shoulders above Mediatek.

0x4E4F,

🤣🤣🤣

possiblylinux127,

WiFi be like that

TheFonz, in Your average Wine enjoyer

If AutoCAD could run on Linux I’d change in a heartbeat

Furbag,

AutoCAD seems to be it’s own worst enemy.

TheFonz,

I think this software is on its way out anyway

KrokanteBamischijf,

Not sure if you’re going to like the route they’ll be taking.

https://www.infoq.com/presentations/autocad-webassembly

I bet AutoCAD will collapse either way if Microsoft decided to purge legacy components from the OS. Feel like the codebase hasn’t changed since the early days and it probably depends on some APIs that have been there since Windows ME.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bet AutoCAD will collapse either way if Microsoft decided to purge legacy components from the OS.

I’ve been saying this for years. Their code base is ancient, it’s just makeup on a granma.

The trouble is, I think MS saw through this. Why do you think backwards compatibility suddenly got so good with Win8/8.1/10, while it really sucked with 7 (blue screens all over, especially with drivers from XP). Hell, I’ve installed XP graphics drivers on Win10 x86 LTSC 2019 and everything was hunky dory. Sure, no Nvidia control panel (it just errors out when you try to rum it), but hey, at least they work. Same with software, CorelDRAW 12 was a PITA to get working properly on Win7. On 10, it works out of the box.

I think they were aware that their mobile OS escapades might flop, so they focused on getting better backwards compatibility. If this thing fires back (which it did), stick to your guns, you still are no.1 in the CAD software market.

KrokanteBamischijf,

While I’m not exactly an expert user of AutoCAD (my background is architecture, industrial design and full stack development), I know enough about the software where I can tell it’s based on a lot of legacy spaghetti code.

It’s the same for Solidworks, which I know through and through, including the shitty VBA scripting environment. My CAD teachers always used to say the software is built like a wooden playhouse, which has been extended over the years to include a second story, a slide, a swingset and a roof extension. But underneath it all, it is still the same “don’t fix it if it aint broke” codebase that Dassault has taken their chances on since the '90s.

The second someone invests any kind of money into an open source alternative, the way Blender has done for the mesh modeling industries, both Autodesk and Dassault systemes stand to lose their respective monopolies on 2D and 3D CAD.

But the trend is not limited to CAD software only, it is also highly prevalent in software providers for governmental tasks. Most of which sell the same products for years without iteration on their codebase. The result is that government organisations have to deal with shitty software that requires their individual users to connect to the database (yes, you heard that right, every user has to manually input database credentials that include all grants on all of the relevant datasets). Most of these cronies are reselling badly thought out software, where they’ve outsourced the development to third-world shitholes. Is is a goddamn miracle that there aren’t more major incidents with government organisations.

The only solution for this kind of bullshit is open standards that encourage an open source approach to these kinds of critical applications. Where more parties are actually encouraged to build their own software and where the businessmodel is built around being a service provider and not a magical black box salesman.

If you’re able to stop worrying about generating revenue based on your intellectual property and focus on generating revenue from the service you provide, surrounding your product… you’ll automatically build a better product.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I completely agree, but there is a problem with that approach. It means you have to work hard… which is not what most of these software companies are ready to do.

Soup,

To be fair AutoCAD couldn’t be stable if AutoDesk built their own custom OS. It’s such hot garbage.

TheFonz,

I think the market share is shrinking anyway with BIM being ubiquitous

MaliciousKebab, in Your average Wine enjoyer

Adobe products: Hello there!

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, you can run them with some heavy modding. I’ve done it with Photoshop 2021 and Premiere 2021. Takes a lot of work and debugging, but it’s doable.

doingless,

That’s a solid no for me and most people. I’m working on getting my office above 50% Linux but I’ll probably never get to 100%.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well 50% is good, not bad at all 👍.

haui_lemmy,

Probably an idea as old as time but wouldn’t it work to stream adobe products from a terminal server?

Let me elaborate: two major fronts I’ve seen are “I type data and write emails” types that can easily work on the terminal and “I make heave graphics and video editing and cant work without 4090 gpu” which we usually just leave to it.

Obviously there are more nuances but most should be doable in terminal unless no internet or very bad internet. I’m somewhat hopeful this would work. Everyone has a very efficient linux pc/laptop and the heavy lifting is done by windows vms with adobe suite running on shared A100s. And while they are not used they could be rented out for extra cost efficiency.

stom,
@stom@lemmy.world avatar

Possible, not practical.

I use substance painter and I need it to work. I don’t want to spend hours messing around trying to make it work and jumping through hoops.

Wine for DCC is great if you enjoy tinkering with pipelines rather than using them, but impractical for people who are trying to reliably get work done.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Possible, not practical.

Yes, true to be honest.

ILikeBoobies, in Your average Wine enjoyer

Windows can’t run Linux apps (wsl is Linux running Linux apps)

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Both Linux and Windows can’t run macOS apps.

ILikeBoobies,

Just for awareness

www.darlinghq.org

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Yeah, I remembered there was some project like this but never looked into it.

bruhduh, in There is no such thing as too many fans...
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

c/onlyfans

PlasticExistence,

When you want to spend all your cash on blow

Ziglin,

I was hoping there’d actually be a community about pc fans under that name…

I am very disappointed.

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Make one.

Ziglin, (edited )

I probably should but I don’t feel like I’m qualified to create a fan community. (As in I don’t know enough about fans) Edit: Also I’m afraid there’s a community under that name on the instance I’m from and there can’t be two communities with the same name and instance right?

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah well. onlyfans@lemmy.world is already claimed. Though you can create another account on a different instance where it is not created already if you don’t mind the hassle. I also don’t think you need to even know about how fans work just to make a community about images of literal fans. It’s your choice.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is actually a good idea, I could create one like that on sh.itjust.works… it’s not against the rules, it’s not porn 🤷… well… sorta 😂.

Ziglin,

I would definitely subscribe, even if I don’t post anything.

Lucidlethargy, in Your average Wine enjoyer

Yeah, enjoy that… I’ve tried it enough times to find the process cumbersome and full of troubleshooting. In the right state of mind I enjoy that, but I could never straight up ditch windows as someone who games often. Sometimes you just want to download a new game and play it.

Linux will get there, if things keep going that direction. It’s not there yet, though.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, enjoy that… I’ve tried it enough times to find the process cumbersome and full of troubleshooting.

But… that’s part of the joy 🤨…

In the right state of mind I enjoy that, but I could never straight up ditch windows as someone who games often.

Who said you have to ditch Windows 🤨. I mostly use Wine so I don’t have to restart and boot into Windows or fire up a VM. It’s just simpler.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

I’ve played games on my Linux desktop without so much as even needing to care it’s running on Linux via Steam and Proton for years now, and it’s only getting better. Basically the only games I’ve seen not work are the ones with kernel level rootkit anti cheat really.

noxy, in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

Avoid Lenovo. At least, I have not had great experiences with the ThinkPad T14s AMD, both gen 1 and gen 2.

Gen 2 came with an Aetheros (sp?) bt/wifi card that would never wake up after suspend, had to get an Intel replacement, thankfully the bad one wasn’t soldered in and I could replace it.

Trackpad has glitches that had to be mitigated in the kernel - mitigated well enough that it doesn’t bother me but it’s still silly

And both gen 1 and 2 still cannot reliably wake from suspend, and experience unreasonably high battery drain while suspended

Then again that could be a problem with all modern laptops…

8tomat8,

I’ve never had better experience with Linux than on ThinkPad. It made me love distro hoping again.

caseyweederman,

I’m a fan of the old IBM ThinkPads. Not sure about the recent ones.
I’ve had huge problems with one of Lenovo’s Legion laptops. Awful support too, they did everything they could to not have to fix it. It took a licensed third party to finally take us seriously and fix the dang thing.

So I wouldn’t recommend Lenovo unless the only alternative was Dell.

Hellstormy,
@Hellstormy@lemmy.world avatar

I run Kubuntu on a T15 Gen 1 for work and it works really well.

nxdefiant, (edited )

I’ve run Linux on the T410, T520, P50, P51, X1g2, X1g5, X1 Yoga, and p16s, all when those laptops were new. Sometimes the wifi was hard to configure, or the fingerprint scanner didn’t work, or the wwan card wasn’t supported, or the power states where fucky and drained the battery, but that was in it’s way all part of the fun.

It’s definitely gotten easier over time to run Linux on new hardware and I’ll pick a Thinkpad for the job every time. I use a modern Thinkpad with linux for work every day.

drdnl,

I have had a couple T14s without issue, did you remember to change the suspend mode in the bios to Linux?

noxy,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

Yep

CaptainBlagbird, in Your average Wine enjoyer
@CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world avatar

This is not wine… Powerade at best 🤔

tpihkal,

Mad Dog 20/20.

Klear, (edited )

This is not Madd Dogg. Big Smoke at best.

pewgar_seemsimandroid, (edited ) in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻

uhh ThinkPad yes ThinkPad ThinkPad is linux THINKPAD PENGUIN

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fine print: oh yea also framework

SLGC,

Which ThinkPad?

ChillPill,
@ChillPill@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been rocking a first gen X1 Yoga (6th gen intel) for like 5-6 years, three or so of those years I’ve been using Pop!_OS and its been pretty good. I suspect that a 6th gen intel may be a little lacking for your uses, just to say that most ThinkPads will be good.

derpgon,

Rocking E15 Gen2 with AMD CPU for about 3 years now, can’t complain besides the fucking fingerprint reader having proprietary drivers (thus not working on Linux).

So, the E model line is a nice work laptop with basically no GPU performance whatsoever.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

yes

drdnl, (edited )

We use about seven ThinkPad T16 and P16s professionally with zero issues. Can recommend

Edit: the AMD versions, those generally work better with Linux

superbirra, (edited ) in Let's go! (sorry i used WSL i have my own reasons for it...)

while :; do date; sleep 1; done

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

thanks this is more like c syntax tho its bash im learning c btw :3

superbirra,

it’s posix shell, also it produces an output similar to your post unlike watch, which everyone is rushing to point out as if it were the ultimate superninja haxxor secret tool that nobody knows about :DDD

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

what

optimal,
@optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

<span style="color:#323232;">watch -n1 date
</span>
superbirra,

none

Bishma, in Let's go! (sorry i used WSL i have my own reasons for it...)
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

watch -n 1 date

bloopernova,
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

I was going to post exactly that, lol

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

nice

TheGreenGolem,
@TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, that’s a specific number.

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

what

TheGreenGolem,
@TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

69 -> nice.

I referenced an overused, childish joke.

mypasswordis1234, (edited )
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar
Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

it used for cpu cores

youngGoku,

Same

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

what does it do?

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

it runs the date command once per second until you hit ctrl+c

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

tysm!

simpleslipeagle,

-d if you’re feeling sporty.

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

If we’re adding dramatic flourish, I’ll suggest watch -n 1 ‘date | cowsay’

Picture_Pig,
@Picture_Pig@lemmy.world avatar

tysm

azerial, (edited )

man watch

Nice command! Thanks!

edit: md

GarlicToast, in Linux users when

Not on NixOS we dont

Neon,

SnowflakeOS aims to do that, check it out. It’s a pretty small project though, so don’t expect too much

GarlicToast,

😍

I’m happy with NixOS for my self. But it may help get less technical people free from Ubuntu.

moody, in Your average Wine enjoyer

I think that’s Kool Aid.

Murdoc,

I was thinking Hawaiian Punch. (I think we may have found a new versioning theme)

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Better not be because I can’t see an inch of sugar building up at the bottom so it wasn’t made correctly.

herrwoland, in Linux community throught history
@herrwoland@lemmy.world avatar

Why is Ubuntu getting so much hate? it was a good entrance for many people into the Linux world

TooLazyDidntName,

Firefox snap doesn’t work with keepassxc browser integration and smart cards randomly, so I uninstalled the default snap on ubuntu, edited configs to make sure it didnt grab snap by default, and then install the deb Firefox.

Every single fucking time I did a distro upgrade, ubuntu uninstalled deb Firefox, rwdis the configs to automatically install snap Firefox, and then reinstalled snap Firefox.

One of the reasons I left windows was because it kept changing my default browser. How is ubuntu any better?

I started my linux journey on ubuntu 11.10. I have some real nostalgia and loyalty to that platform, but I recently gave up on it and switched to fedora because of its relentless self-promotion is snap. I feel like you’d be doing a disservice to recommend it as a gateway into Linux to someone nowadays.

nul9o9,

Oooooh, that’d really rub me the wrong way. My wife is still on a Windows PC. She’ll ask my why certain changes she made get reverted, and my default answer is “Microsoft thinks it knows better than you”.

caseyweederman,

Canonical has a long history of thinking it knows better than you, but funneling everyone into their closed-source walled-garden our-way-or-the-highway gonna-charge-money-the-moment-we-figure-out-the-legality Snap Store sure if the most Microsofty.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It USED to be OK. Now, it’s just bloat, ads for snaps and pro features.

WelcomeBear, (edited )

Is this also true for headless servers? I’ve been using Ubuntu via SSH for 15 years now and it’s always been fine for me but I’ve also never run the desktop version (for more than a few days anyway.)

I just installed it on a scavenged workstation last month to use as a media server and I didn’t notice anything unusual.

Edit:

While we’re at it, what does the hive mind think I should be using instead for turning old trash PCs into shitty servers? The only thing Lemmy has taught me so far is that Ubuntu sucks and the only truly honorable choice is to quit my job and stop speaking to my family so that I can devote my life to installing drivers on unstable Arch. Also, I’m supposed to buy some thigh-high stockings and learn to tuck apparently?

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

While we’re at it, what does the hive mind think I should be using instead for turning old trash PCs into shitty servers?

Void. The speed difference is unmeasurable, especially when using old equipment. Plus it still supports x86. If you’re used to the terminal, you won’t notice a difference, trust me… except a lot more speed and less RAM usage.

The only thing Lemmy has taught me so far is that Ubuntu sucks and the only truly honorable choice is to quit my job and stop speaking to my family so that I can devote my life to installing drivers on unstable Arch.

Everything works pretty much out of the box in Void. Hardware doesn’t work? Try installing some of the firmware binary blobs (firmware-intel, firmware-broadcom, etc.). Check the hardware manufacturer and model with lspci or lsusb (depending on how the hardware is connected to the PC). 99% of the time, the thing works after firmware packages are installed 👍.

Also, I’m supposed to buy some thigh-high stockings and learn to tuck apparently?

No, just be open minded to new things and have a reddit account for asking questions/getting support… cuz the Void team didn’t join the protest and their subreddit is still the official help forum for Void.

possiblylinux127,

Void isn’t a industry standard and takes lo get to setup. You can use what you find easier though.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

No Linux distro is an “industry standard”… if you’re thinking of POSIX compatible.

Well, there are 2, one is that distro Huawei made and I forgot the other one. But basically, those two are the only ones that are POSIX certified.

possiblylinux127,

Industry standard means you can find support for it easily. Void has a wiki but you don’t find a lot of users with void knowledge. Its just something to keep in mind.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That is true, info regarding it can mostly be found on Reddit.

OR3X,

I use Debian headless for my media server and mint cinnamon on the desktop. I don’t care for anything vaguely Gnome 3.

possiblylinux127,

I personally go for Debian over Ubuntu as its simpler and doesn’t have a lot of overhead.

Honestly if you don’t have a problem then don’t worry about it. I just have noticed Ubuntu server takes way for resources and the extras such as snap and cloud init add extra complexity

bitwaba,

I’ve been dist updating my fileserver for a decade and noticed over the last year or so that I’m using considerably more disk space than I expected on my OS drive. I see a lot of Snap installs (which I’d rather not use), and am getting messages from apt update telling me there’s additional security packages if I switch to some Ubuntu paid subscription or something.

I don’t really care to look more into it. I’ve been meaning to rebuild the hardware anyways, and will probably install Arch or Debian.

madscience,

I’m an arch desktop user, but I’d never use it for a server. Debian for that please.

bitwaba,

I’ve been using it for desktop for the last 2 years and haven’t had any issues preventing me from booting (that werent self-caused). I’m actually quite impressed with how well it works, but I do have what I consider a healthy distrust of the AUR and tend to stay away unless I can’t find a solution to my problem in the official repos.

What makes you hesitant to use it as server?

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Ubuntu is great. I use it on laptops, desktops, servers and IoT devices. We use it on thousands of corp workstations at my workplace too.

polygon6121,

Agreed 👍 skimmed over allt of comments in this thread and it does seem like most haters don’t have business experience with the os. Of course a different distro will work better and be cleaner. But that only makes sense if you install on a shitty home PC where overhead is a concern or you have all the time in the world to tinker around(looking at you arch). I need something that makes sense, have support and just works. I don’t need a “beginner” distro, I need something that comes with all apps preloaded to get actual work done and does not break everytime someone connects a docking station or tries to switch user (looking at you pop OS). And btw Ubuntu Pro (the ad that someone complained about) makes sense for really long term support on some machines, and it is a great deal.

We used to be 100% windows at work, from servers to workstations to integrated systems. Since last year we are moving some systems away from windows. Not only on old hardware but also on brand new, it just works. And compared to windows 11 it is so stable and makes so much sense. The cost is almost nothing, support is good, the actual data collection makes sense, canonical actually only use it to improve their OS and we are happy to report(windows ACTUALLY want to sell you ads and collect everything probably including you mother’s middle name, and phones home every few seconds)

polygon6121,

Ubuntu is good. I use it for work… maybe mostly because it is supported by Dell ( XPS line). The experience have been very stable, looks good, feels good. Maybe minor complaint about the different app formats, I find it confusing when it is not one single format, but both snap and deb packages work well. Connecting to our windows active directory was smoother than on windows 11 machines.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s actually smooth now on other distros as well.

polygon6121,

True! Fedora worked well also, using only the GUI

badbytes,

Read a Ubuntu forum for help and you’ll see why. Blind leading blind far too frequently.

possiblylinux127,

Ubuntu hasn’t been user friendly in a long time. Linux mint on the other hand nails it completely. I still use it in a few VMs

GarlicToast,

Need to use Ubuntu at work on some of the machines. Canonical distributes broken packages and has done this for years.

They do so also when the package on Debian is fine. So they take the Debian package, add breakage and release it.

Ubuntu is a pile of crap, but still better than Windows.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

What packages? Cuz if it’s FF or something they ship in the Snap store, they have an incentive to do that - deb desn’t work, use Snaps 🤷.

GarlicToast,

One of the binaries in graphviz is compiled with the wrong flags for years.

The Python module networkx is broken on 22.04.

Long live the savor Nix.

Swiggles,

Emphasis on it was. It started to go downhill with Amazon integration and now we have paid security updates. They are holding back developed and available security packages for their OS!

There is no way to still recommend Ubuntu. No need to even talk about the other questionable decisions like snap.

Papercrane,

Isn’t Linux mint an Ubuntu fork? That gets recommended to tons of people who seek an entrance into the Linux world. Is it as bad as Ubuntu?

WeLoveCastingSpellz, (edited )

It is a fork, meaning its like ubuntu but with the bullshit that makes ubuntu bad removed. It is completly safe but if you wanna stay clear of any trace of ubuntu at all there is also a debian based version of mint

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Debian Mint is the way to go now for entry in Linux if you ask me.

mosiacmango, (edited )

Pop-os is likely the best ubuntu flavored OS to recommend. It has nice features like solid gaming intergration and an optional tiling manager, all without snaps.

Maiznieks,

When was it though, the ads and that lens could be removed easily. And there’s no

Swiggles,

The problem is always having the bad option being enabled by default. Not even the ads are the biggest problem. I didn’t even mention their current ads in the terminal. The problem is the same Microsoft is having now, that your keyboard input gets sent to an untrustworthy third party.

Your comment got cut off. If you wanted to dispute the paid paid claim. It is about Ubuntu Pro, that’s literally all what the basic tier is. We recently even had the case where a patch with a highish CVE rating was only available to subscribers of the service. We also verified that the same patch was already available on Debian. Even without my anecdote it should be obvious why it is bad.

CatTrickery,

It started when they started including Amazon sponsored results in the menu search really. These days using apt occasionally will install a snap package instead of a deb. It doesn’t give people a good jumping on point and it teaches that linux is more difficult than it has to be.

possiblylinux127,

Try Linux Mint

nailbar,

Ubuntu’s use of Snap made me go back to Arch.

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