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RIP_Cheems, in Linux too mainstream for some 🤷
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What is hoodie?

tpihkal,

You would choose no.

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

But what is it?

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

But what is it?

emergencyfood,

Stereotypical h4X0r wear.

Kolanaki,
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Hoodie with ears and thigh high socks; the only thing h4X0rs wear.

emergencyfood,

You forgot the fedoras and capes. And of course OG h4X0rs wore XXL t-shirts and ancient jeans, and lived on honey coffee, locusts cigarettes and stuff that got stuck between their toes.

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

People who wear cat ear headphones and thigh high socks are actually respectable. When OP says “hoodie” they mean “script kiddie who feels like a badass for changing the color of his terminal”.

Note the lack of use of gender neutral pronouns. I do not believe that any woman or enby, trans or otherwise, would stoop so low.

NickwithaC,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

Hoodie OS. Used by people who type one line into a terminal to bring down the government and say “I’m in” when they extract data from databases.

Riven, in I am one of you now
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Shout out to Julia from Drawfee on youtube for the bottom art. It’s Bobby.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

No!! Julia!! That’s Bobby Hill??

NegativeInf,

The room is in shambles.

BloodSlut,

The room full of vampires?

Squid,

I came looking for your comment. Julia birthed a meme

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

One of many. Merobiba is still one of my faves.

possiblylinux127, in Linux too mainstream for some 🤷

This is a old meme

ImplyingImplications,

You can tell because it suggests Linux isn’t for gamers but Valve has its own game console that runs on Linux. It’d be pretty stupid if a game console couldn’t run games.

Damage, in Linux too mainstream for some 🤷

This is Fedora erasure

draughtcyclist,

You can blame IBM for that…

kogasa,
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Fedora’s still a good distro. I would always recommend it over Ubuntu and Debian for a home user with a bit of technical affinity.

ohlaph,

We will rise.

sabreW4K3, in Linux too mainstream for some 🤷
@sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf avatar

How is Fedora not there?

psvrh,
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“Does IBM pay your salary?” isn’t in the flowchart. :)

dream_weasel, (edited ) in I am one of you now

“from scratch”

It’s like a page worth of instructions you can follow verbatim excluding bootloader and network. If you watch one video of someone doing it to fill those gaps there is nothing to it.

Source: I watched Kai Hendry speed install arch, bookmarked the video and all my machines are now arch “from scratch” in 10 minutes or less of actual keyboard time.

Sanyanov,

Mental Outlaw also has the great guide explaining the install step-by-step in a great detail

Jumuta,

except he doesn’t talk about the difference in bootloader installation for uefi

Sanyanov, (edited )

Touche

exu,

I don’t remember the channel anymore, but there’s one guy constantly updating various setups. Like Arch with encryption, Arch with BTRFS, etc. I started with one of those videos and wrote my own step by step guide. Now I’m just following my own guide whenever I install Arch.

victorz,

I wouldn’t dare do that. If my own guide becomes outdated I’d have wasted time and effort. But to each their own. 👍

kuberoot,

I think calling it “a page worth” is understating it somewhat, especially if you want a full install to actually use stuff. In reality, when installing at first, you’ll be finding stuff you missed for a while, like hardware video decoding.

Also, are you referring to just the direct instructions for one choice? Because to me, the point of installing manually is educating yourself on the choices, choosing one that suits you, and understanding what you’re doing to set it up. Of course, when you’re doing subsequent installs, you already know that stuff - but at that point you might just want to write an install script instead of running them manually.

victorz, in Year of Linux on the Desktop

Can recommend Arch as a gaming platform OS. Works well with Steam. It’s what the Steam Deck is built on. 👍

HoornseBakfiets,

I’m sorry but arch is a terrible choice for a first Linux OS: it breaks often, and has problems updating it if you don’t update regularly, (stuff only Linux Nerds overlook when advising an OS).

Go for something like; Linux mint, PopOS, Ubuntu

victorz, (edited )

I’m sorry?

It doesn’t break often, it doesn’t have problems updating it you don’t update regularly.

It might be a bad choice for a first-time Linux user due to the heavy setup process/time post-install, but as a gaming platform it works absolutely fine. Steam Deck runs on Arch ffs, come on now. 😄

Curious: when was the last time you used Arch? Seems like you haven’t used it of late, considering those misconceptions you spewed. Or maybe you are running experimental/unsupported stuff?

I’ve used it for over a decade now and had less problems with it than with Ubuntu that I ran for much less time before Arch.

HoornseBakfiets,

Let me try to reply to your somewhat heated rebuttal, Last I used arch (that was manjaro 4years ago; endeavorOS 3 years ago) so yes quite a while back I confess, I encountered multiple issues updating some of these listed below:

www.reddit.com/r/…/arch_no_updates_since_may/

forum.manjaro.org/t/…/84700

NVidea

As I updated sporadically around once every 1-4 months with little time to spare for system maintenance and the prime requirement It Just Works™️ running Steam, in both cases eventually it didn’t cut it for me.

I only recently learned that updating without being subscribed to their newsletter is not recommended, none of the YouTubers or Arch enthusiasts I’ve come across warn about this.

wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_maintenanceRead before upgrading the system Before upgrading, users are expected to visit the Arch Linux home page to check the latest news, or alternatively subscribe to the RSS feed or the arch-announce mailing list. When updates require out-of-the-ordinary user intervention (more than what can be handled simply by following the instructions given by pacman), an appropriate news post will be made.

victorz, (edited )

I don’t know what kind of issues Manjaro or Endeavor have had, probably plenty, but I’m running vanilla Arch for over a decade as I said, no issues. I update once a week maybe. I take a look at the packages that will be updated, and I do as the wiki said – check the website for big news/manual intervention. Sometimes there’s manual intervention, but they almost never concern me because it’s due to something I don’t have installed. This is standard routine for Arch, and if you don’t pay attention then you are not using Arch properly. (I don’t pay attention most of the time either, honestly, but it still doesn’t break.)

I also use Nvidia and Steam (Flatpak) and it works great and I’m very satisfied. Works better than my Windows installation actually; better performance.

Arch being an unstable mess is a misconception these days since a long time, I think. It’s been great.

I’ve updated old laptops with Arch that have been sitting for years without updates. I just run -Syu and it basically replaces every single package 😅, then I reboot into a fresh, working system. 👍 All good. Happened plenty of times.

Deceptichum, in When your kids misbehave
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Sudocrem is such a life saver.

palordrolap,

Until the kids get their hands on it and decide use it to "paint" half a room.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or just paint themselves…

dependencyinjection,

Reminded me that I apparently once painted the TV with nail varnish.

768, in I am one of you now

Trve Arch users don’t remember their install process.

zurchpet,
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I even ported an install once from one device to another just by copying the data and installing the bootloader.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I only remember how long it takes

victorz,

Can confirm. Install once and it lives forever until the hardware dies or is replaced.

xarexyouxmadx, in I am one of you now

I don’t use Arch but if I did id probably go with archinstall. I don’t see the point in going from scratch unless you absolutely need to. I could care less about bragging rights for installing an operating system lol.

Sanyanov, (edited )

I just don’t bother going for archinstall when regular installation “from scratch” takes 5 minutes (or 15, if you do it the first time). It is not scary and extremely simple, contrary to memes. Besides, it makes you understand the processes involved.

Archinstall is just a little, nice helper to shorten and simplify installation even more.

traches,

It’s not about bragging rights, all you do is follow instructions. I just do it that way because I can set everything up exactly how I like it

people_are_cute, (edited )
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You mean “couldn’t care less”. The way you’ve written it means that you do care a bit since you “could care less”.

badbytes, in When your kids misbehave

It’s how mini servers are born. Just a little Sudocrem inserted into open port.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It has to be the right port though… otherwise, it’s a waste of data.

camelbeard, (edited ) in I am one of you now

I tried so many distros in the last decade, but I recently had to start with a fresh setup again and I went with Linux Mint. I think it’s the most underestimated workhorse you can get. Everything just works, tons of help online if you need it and instead of tweaking it forever you just get work done.

yamapikariya,
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Linux mint is so good. I used it for a long while. It is a nearly perfect OS

midnight,
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I don't think anyone underestimates Linux Mint. It's pretty widely considered one of the best distros out there.

Those of us who choose Arch do so for the software selection, and because we like tweaking the os :)

camelbeard,

I totally get that and I used to do the same. Maybe this community is different but on some online communities people kind of looked down on mint and pretended it was only a beginner distro.

force, (edited ) in When your kids misbehave

i can’t tell if this is serbocroatian or slovenian or something else but i’m too afraid to ask

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Serbocroatian is long gone, it was a construct made up back in Yugoslavia. It was basically Serbian written in latin (basically… there were some things from Croatian, but very little).

It’s Croatian. Serbian and Croatian are similar, but Serbian is written in Cyrillic, while Croatian in Latin.

force, (edited )

A majority of linguists consider Serbocroatian to be one language, there are many distinct dialects (with different countries having different standards). The writing system is irrelevant, the writing system isn’t the language (this can be seen in Mongolian, Tibetan, Hindustani, Persian, Kazakh, previously Azerbaijani, and contemporary Chinese languages as well). Also you can write Serbian in Latin script (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Serbian)

They are no less mutually intelligible than what are considered different dialects of other languages. In fact as someone who can read Russian & Polish I can understand a good amount of written Serbocroatian with trouble (it’s a lot harder than reading something like Ukrainian due to linguistic distance), it’s significantly closer between Serbian & Croatian varieties. Often people on media/politics pretend not to understand the other though due to mutual hatred from nationalism.

I would like to spend a lot of time on the language one day, I haven’t done much besides read some from grammar books on it. I like it a lot.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, you can write Serbian in latin, but not on any documents… as in, you can do it, but informally.

You are correct about the politics part. Serbs and Croats understand each other perfectly, so do Bosnisnas. The odd balls out were Slovenian and Macedonian, with Slovenian (IMO) being a little bit harder to decypher than Macedonian.

force, (edited )

Ye AFAIK Slovenian is considered a very different language by most and Macedonian is significantly more grammatically similar to Bulgarian. I’m not very sure about Macedonian tho.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, gramatically, it’s similar to Bulgarian (we don’t have cases like the others, we solve that with adverbs and adjectives), but in terms of words, it’s similar to Serbian and Croatian. Regarding sentence structure, yes, it’s similar to Bulgarian, with emphasis sounding more like Serbian or Croatian (Bulgarian sounds more like Russian).

Slovenia was under Austro-Hungary during the last 5 centuries (20th century excluded), so they have a lot of German (Austrian) lingo in their vocabulary, plus sentence formation is also kind of confusing (for me at least).

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Government issued documents are in Cyrillic by default in Serbia, but official documents can be written in Latin as well. It’s not forbidden to use either of the alphabets. Most of the ads, signs and similar material are written indeed in Latin.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

For “backwards compatibility” I presume… and also catering to Croats and Bosnians that live in Serbia.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say it’s a habit now more than anything. It’s also more convenient not having to configure computer and phone, etc. Latin has become dominant. Everyone still learns both and has to know how to write in print and cursive. But no one writes print Cyrillic by hand anymore, or at least very few. I still prefer cursive Cyrillic to anything else, because it flows better. But print Latin is what most kids write these days from what I’ve seen. There has been suggestions of government incentive to keep Cyrillic. Proposal was to give some tax deductions if companies use Cyrillic for most things. Probably didn’t go far. But it is a cultural heritage worth keeping.

0x4E4F, (edited )
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Cyrillic is a must here (Macedoia). Sure, we text and may write in Latin (not all the time though), but other than that, yeah, we still use Cyrillic.

I just text in Latin. Can’t really get accustomed to the Cyrillic keboard, 4 more letters and my fingers are thick 😂.

Russians are die hard though, they don’t write Russian in Latin… ever 😂.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

I should probably start typing more in Cyrillic, even my messages. Most people will laugh at me for doing so.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, mine as well 😂… cuz most know I type texts and chat client messages in latin only 😂.

Persen,

It’s Serbocroatian, Serbian, Croatian or Bosnian.

winety,
@winety@communick.news avatar

It’s not Czech. I’d say it’s Croatian.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep, Croatian.

MalReynolds, in I am one of you now
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NixOS is the new Arch… (cat, meet pigeons) Unfortunately It doesn’t have as much basic training as Arch did (which archinstall obviates, not that I think this is a bad thing, it’s time is here), which did so much to improve community. Unfortunately NixOS’s doco is woeful, while ArchWiki is gold standard.

I say this as an ex Arch type who moved to Fedora, now ublue-kinoite, waiting for Nix to mature enough to daily (although I do have a T440p with 3 boot drives not doing much, hmm)…

Shareni,

NixOS is the new Arch…

Yeah nah, arch has an actual use case for normal users - it’s just the same old Linux with the most recent packages.

Nix and guix simply don’t work as distros for regular people. They’re made for scientific and corporate applications. They add a huge amount of complexity in order to solve problems you don’t have.

Nixos is like rust: hyped into the stratosphere by people who don’t use it

I say this as an ex Arch type who moved to Fedora, now ublue-kinoite, waiting for Nix to mature enough to daily

I’m running guix in fedora as a PM. You get most of the benefits, and can still use other PM’s like npm without crying for a week first. Although imo guix works better in that scenario since you can just “guix install X” and then use X like any other binary.

xenoclast, in I am one of you now

Is that Bobby Hill?!

yamapikariya,
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Yes

wunami,
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kpw,

Thank you I tried to figure out how one could recognize Bobby Hill in this drawing.

xenoclast,

Seeing that face “in the wild” blew my damn mind.

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