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018118055, in One of the few times I've downvoted

curl pipe bash lol

AlexisFR, in One of the few times I've downvoted
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

But it’s correct. It’s time to move on.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hey, I have nothing against people using GUIs to install software. Just don’t say it’s retarded to use a tarball to do the same. After all, everything is done through the terminal (more or less) in UNIX like operating systems. Just because it has a GUI, doesn’t mean that “black magic” commands are not being run in the background.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

The command line way is right at the top, and it doesn’t seem like it’s implying retarded if you know this meme format.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

It’s a meme.

crony, in One of the few times I've downvoted
@crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

sudo emerge app-misc/i-love-gentoo

WallEx, in One of the few times I've downvoted

Ew, what’s that website?

backhdlp, in One of the few times I've downvoted
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Average redditor who didn’t grow up to understand that opinions exist:

MentalEdge, in One of the few times I've downvoted
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

A bit of an elitist gatekeeper, are we?

db2,

It’s a screenshot of a post by someone that fits that description. The OP here tried to show that but it isn’t clear.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

The original post is a perfectly humorous meme on the idea that “maybe enabling users doing things via gui isn’t a horrible idea”.

Posting a screenshot of someone else’s post, with a clearly negative note, in hopes of provoking… What? A hateful echo chamber around it?

There’s nothing funny here. It essentially just boils down to “look at how dumb this reasonable opinion exaggerated for comedic effect is” which is little more than toxic slander looking for validation.

TexMexBazooka,

I too consume my memes with a pinky out

octesian, in One of the few times I've downvoted

I don’t know whether to upvote or downvote. Congratulations.

only0218, in It happens 🤷

You can quite easily set grub to remember the last picked option

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That is not the problem. It’s whether I wanted to pick Windows or Linux in this reboot that’s the issue.

BoastfulDaedra, in It happens 🤷

Just pray to God you didn’t pick “Windows Boot Repair” or you’re going to spend a while recovering your partition labels…

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not an issue, I still use MBR boot.

BoastfulDaedra,

I hear you.

The first time WBR killed my partition labels, it was before I could even properly restart. I removed the GRUB entry after that mess, once I repaired their labeling; but at least at the time, it would come back after every GRUB update. Later I just moved Windows to its own hard drive and left it there.

Now I don’t even feel the need to bother with it at all.

pineapplelover, (edited ) in It happens 🤷
ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t sound so bad for pushing 120!

gogosempai, in It happens 🤷
@gogosempai@programming.dev avatar

Ah old days… I used to boot into Windows 10 just for gaming but when Valve’s Proton matured to the point that all my games could work on Linux I very happily nuked it out of existence. But yeah if someone plays Fortnite or needs Adobe products then you still can’t do much unfortunately.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t do either, but I still need Windows. Some software just needs native communication with hardware devices and wine is still not there yet.

ExLisper,

That’s what virtualization is for.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can’t have native SATA support with virtualization… at least not that I’m aware of… and I need that.

BirdyBoogleBop,

Doesn’t that trip anticheats?

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Only problem is gamepass

gogosempai,
@gogosempai@programming.dev avatar

I only played via Steam so I wouldn’t know. I hear it’s a good deal, but I’ve made it a point to not accept such good deals from BigTech. Have gotten screwed over too many times. Remember when Google Photos allowed unlimited storage?

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Then piracy it will be. For now it’s more convenient than piracy.

BoastfulDaedra,

This isn’t a real solution, but I’ve run it fine through Amazon on Chrome while using Linux.

Telodzrum, in It happens 🤷

People are still using GRUB to dual boot? It’s not 2010 anymore. systemd-boot is the objectively superior choice.

maryjayjay,

Is systemd-boot a bootloader?

Telodzrum,

It’s a boot manager, technically.

nixcamic,

How does it compare to refind?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good for people that use systemd… what about the rest of us…

Telodzrum,

All six of you Luddites? You figure it out.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You should really take a closer look at the Void user base…

Telodzrum,

Loud doesn’t mean numerous. Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Fedora, Arch, and Manjaro take up almost all of the desktop install market.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.

My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.

Agent641,

I just unplug the exposed SATA cable from one ssd and plug it into the other SSD. I am the bootloader

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

does systemd-boot require a distro that runs systemd or is it just the name

Telodzrum,

It’s part of systemd, just for those that use it.

AVincentInSpace,

laughs in rEFInd

also systemd-boot is just worse GRUB, CMV

Telodzrum,

I have no desire to engage with an objectively incorrect view. However, you are the second person to mention refind which I am unfamiliar with and I’m intrigued.

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

systemd-boot is GRUB but without customization and fewer supported features (LLVM root etc). What more is there to say?

rEFInd is (as the name implies) an EFI bootloader that, on every boot, scans all attached storage devices for a bootable partition and presents all those found in a boot menu with a quite nice graphical theme

laurelraven, in It happens 🤷

You use your mouse for GRUB?

bastion, in It happens 🤷

That just doesn’t happen to me.

I use rEFInd.

ExLisper,

That also doesn’t happen to me.

The last time I had Windows installed anywhere was around 15 years ago.

Caboose12000, (edited ) in It happens 🤷

does anyone know how to actually reorganze a grub menu? every time I try to Google it I only get results for some old software that hasnt been updated in over a decade 8 years. its a huge pain to have to select the distro I want every time just because its not first

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Yast on openSUSE does this and is maintained.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Grub Customizer. Just don’t change it too much (names of menu entries for example) cuz most package managers won’t recognize that that menu entry is actually a menu entry for it’s own install and won’t replace it with a new one when doing a kernel update. So, basically, one of two things will happen. You will either be left with 2 menu entries (one for the new kernel and one for the old one, with the old one being the default) or two, you’ll still be booting the old kernel, even though you have the new one installed (no changes to grub whatsoever). Just rearanging the menu entries is fine though, most package managers won’t mangle that and will recognize the menu entry as part of the OS they’re updating and replace that one with a new one.

Caboose12000, (edited )

is there a fork of grub customizer somewhere thats being maintained? that was the software I was talking about in my original comment* and unless im misreading the GitHub page for the project, the last update was 8 years ago.

*I mispoke when I said it was over 10 years out of date, it was updated in 2016.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

launchpad.net/grub-customizer/

I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.

laurelraven,

The old GRUB was easy, just a text file… I think I’ve done it once in the new one but it’s way too long since then

I bet either the Gentoo or Arch (or probably both) wiki has enough details on how to manage GRUB to do that

okamiueru,

I think arch install defaults to systemd-boot these days. But, I realise that doesn’t negate anything you said… So. Hope you’re having a nice day.

laurelraven,

Just checked and they do have it, I think this is the section they need if they want to go that route

wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB#Custom_grub.cfg

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