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bl_r, in It's OK if you cry

I’ve only had problems with wifi drivers twice, immediately after clean-installing fedora 38 on two different devices. Plugging my device into ethernet and updating fixed it instantly.

MrShankles,

What do I do if my laptop doesn’t have an ethernet port?

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure about iPhones, but I’ve used an android phone a couple times to both USB tether with data and to act as a WiFi receiver to download drivers in a pinch.

Sowhatever,

Use a second computer or a friend’s one to download the updates, get a USB ethernet adapter (a 100mbps one is like $5), put the system drive in a computer with lan, tether with another device via USB (phone, pi zero, etc) or use a different version/distro. I’m sure there are a bunch of other solutions.

bl_r,

I guess an ethernet to USB adapter might be your next best bet.

Alternatively, you could USB tether your phone if you have a good data plan

If you are in the unlikely event that you don’t have ethernet port to plug your device into, and no cell service, such as I was, you can use a spare wireless AP to get wifi if you’ve got one

CarlosCheddar, in Every god damn time!

Me when I converted to btrfs from ext4. I went in blind and had no idea about sub volumes.

shunir,

Same.

0x4E4F,

I need it because of Timeshift, it works with subvolumes only.

lntl, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

swap macos for *BSD and I’d agree

cows_are_underrated, in the main differences!!

I use both. What does that mean for me?

01adrianrdgz,
@01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar
afraid_of_zombies, in It's OK if you cry

15 years ago this was an issue on my laptop.

ChunkMcHorkle,
@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

This is an issue on my 14 year old laptop today.

ava223, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac
Pantherina,

Wtf is that?

MacNCheezus, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Mac user here. I’d wash my hands too.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Another macOS user here: I wouldn’t.

bjoern_tantau, in Every god damn time!
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I thought the flexibility of BTRFS was that you could basically always add subvolumes. Shows what I know.

0x4E4F,

Yes, you can, but now I have to move the entire install to a subvolume, risking borking the install 😒.

zzzz,

Or, ya know, just reinstall right quick.

0x4E4F,

Yeah, I’m thinking between that and rsync-ing to a new subvolume… the install is just bare bones, almost nothing was set up.

Ooops,
@Ooops@kbin.social avatar

Yes, you can. But the usual setup is to have a file system root that is nothing but subvolumes, which you can then use and mount basically as if they were independent partitions. But when you don't create a root subvolume for your system root first, you install the system directly on the file system root alongside created subvolumes. This tends to get messy as strictly speaking the file system root is a subvolume, too. So now you have that with your system installed and all other subvolumes nested inside it.

Chewy7324,

Yes. Usually the OS installer takes care of creating a root and home subvolume. Except Arch and similar barebones installer have instructions in the wiki.

FreshLight, in Repurposing your laptop trans rights style 😎🏳️‍⚧️

I use Arch btw

beerclue, in It's OK if you cry

The last time I had an issue with Linux drivers was in 2002, trying to set up a pppoe connection. I had no smartphone and there were no YouTube, Reddit, wikis, forums etc.

Back in 2016 I helped install some wifi drivers on a friend’s laptop in Ubuntu 16.04, which was not really a big deal.

I feel like these memes are made by Windows users :)

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i find that the linux experience can vary wildly depending on the hardware you are running it on.

when it works it changes the way you use your computer for the better, when it doesnt its nothing but frustration and broken keyboards

0x4E4F,

I just think you’ve had the luck of not having a lot of unsupported hardware on Linux 😂.

Yes, in general, things are OK driver wise, but remember when we had to resort to ndiswrapper to get wifi working… yeah, that was a pain 😔.

Miyabi, in It's OK if you cry
@Miyabi@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

It’s insane how I just had this problem today. Had to tear out my network card in my Asus VivoBook 16. The drivers aren’t out for the MediaTek network card so I had to change it to an Intel one that I previously used.

0x4E4F,

Use that till the drivers get released… temporary solution, but there isn’t a better one at the moment 🤷.

QuazarOmega, in Repurposing your laptop trans rights style 😎🏳️‍⚧️

Fun fact: they’re actually the same person, but he sold it and bought it back when she realized the gross mistake she made

platypus_plumba,

Damn, you assumed pronouns like 4 times. Get ready to go to trans jail (jk)

QuazarOmega,

Wait, I thought I implied the gender change correctly?

Eccitaze,
@Eccitaze@yiffit.net avatar

Nah, I got that, you’re all Gucci

QuazarOmega,

Pog, we chill

platypus_plumba,

You IMPLIED? That’s even worse than assuming. Life sentence.

QuazarOmega,

Dammit, I’m busted… (but they’ll never know I’m also a racist)
race car flip

Alfika07,

Me reading this thread with a native language that doesn’t have gender specific pronouns: 😳😅

c0mbatbag3l, in It's OK if you cry
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I only had issues with this when setting up Kali Linux for learning pen testing. Fedora it worked out of the box.

onlinepersona, (edited ) in It's OK if you cry

Lemmy needs polls. The last time I had problems with WIFI drivers was… 15 years ago? On a laptop bought in a supermarket that originally came with Windows Vista. Oh, and the raspberry pi - fuck raspberry pis. They can’t pick wifi module worth shit.

Honytawk,

Welcome to 90% of all the anti-Windows arguments made on here by Linux users.

onlinepersona, (edited )

I’m not sure I follow… are you saying Linux users judge windows by very old problems?

Johanno,

I mean it isn’t Linux fault, but I wanted to install balenaos on my RaspberryPi and they don’t support a WiFi chip in their kernel. Without WiFi the whole idea won’t work for me. And I don’t want to buy a new WiFi usb only because they don’t want to add the drivers.

My attempts to add it to the kernel and build it myself failed so far.

onlinepersona,

I’m not faulting linux, I’m faulting the Raspberry Pi Foundation. Linux is their main operating system and they haven’t picked a good WIFI hardware module for years. Dunno if the new raspberrypi 4 is better, but I’m not paying to find out.

linuxdweeb, (edited )

All single board computers have driver problems because they require custom kernel forks that can’t or don’t get mainlined for whatever reason (usually laziness), but Raspberry PI is actually the best when it comes to that stuff.

So when you buy an SBC, you need to ask yourself: will the company continue to develop/update/patch their custom kernel fork now that they shipped? Or will they just abandon it and move on to the next product? 9 times out of 9.01, it’s the latter.

Johanno,

I am running a pi 1. No WiFi included. The usb I have worked for everything so far

onlinepersona,

That’s the only thing that worked for me too. The inbuilt WiFi is useless.

Johanno,

On pi 4 with raspbian no issues. Didn’t try a different os on that yet

LufyCZ,

Quick correction, the Pi5 is the new one

onlinepersona,

Thanks. I’m out of the loop.

0x4E4F,

Try Void, maybe it has the adequate firmware binary blobs… worth a try 🤷.

Sowhatever,

Raspberry, seriously? What problems are you seeing?

I have a raspberry pi 3 acting as a 5GHz access point for as long as it’s been on the market, I can remember one time I had to restart it because of some wonkiness. About a dozen others as clients, never had an issue there either, fast and stable enough.

All using the default os (raspbian first, raspberry os later).

onlinepersona,

I’ve had 3 raspberry pis (1,2,3) and none have had stable WiFi. After an hour or two it would drop and the logs would get spammed with some error that I can’t remember. Might be this issue wlan freezes in raspberry pi 3/PiZeroW (Not 3B+) . Similar issue Every two hours, like clockwork: “wpa_supplicant[313]: nl80211: kernel reports: key addition failed”.

After that, I gave up on WiFi on Raspberries and used LAN, but they are so underpowered… my nextcloud instance took ages to do anything, XBMC (now Kodi) was slow and couldn’t render videos > 720p (it was struggling with 720p honestly), even a simple audio proxy over bluetooth (forward bluetooth audio from phone to speaker) barely functioned as the bluetooth cut out or it was janky as hell.

It’s easier to put a old phone as a server than a raspberrypi.

Sowhatever,

Might be some AP incompatibility maybe, I’ve never seen those.

XBMC didn’t have drivers for video acceleration, but the raspberry pi 1 was able to play 1080p flawlessly if you used omxplayer.

Now kodi has the drivers included and the 4 can even play 4k up to certain bit rate.

The new ones are too expensive tho, a used NUC is a much better deal.

onlinepersona,

Might be some AP incompatibility maybe, I’ve never seen those.

Lucky you. Tried 4 different routers --> same issue.

I gave up on RasPis long ago.

0x4E4F,

There are some oddball cards out there that need the linux firmware xxx (insert manufacturer instead of xxx) binary blobs in order to work, but yes, those cards are rare nowadays and mostly older hardware uses that (as you mentioned, hardware from 10+ years ago).

victorz,

Had problems about 3 years ago, got a new laptop from work and the WiFi hardware was too new and didn’t have support in the kernel yet. Took a year or something, maybe less, until it worked.

onlinepersona,

For new hardware, it’s no surprise when it doesn’t work out of the box as most drivers are written for windows first. That’s not a fault of linux.

victorz,

Yep, just saying I had problems.

LordKitsuna, in the main differences!!

I find it amusing that what I can only assume appears to be a professional artist as being used as an example. Considering that gnome is forcing Wayland yet has no color management. Not that x11 is perfect at color management but it at least exists

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