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THE_ANON, in This goofy aah comic

Cursed as fuck man

NotATurtle, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?

Have you heard of our lord and saviour Arch Linux BTW

onlinepersona,

Get on the NixOS train, loser. Arch is too easy. /s

ILikeBoobies,
onlinepersona, (edited )

Not entirely the same. nix is a build-tool, package manager and DSL. NixOS is the OS built on top of that. nixlang.wiki explains it

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

ILikeBoobies,

I just think more people should use Nix packages

dream_weasel,

BTW!!!

Rognaut, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?

You guys should try Kali Linux with KDE Plasma. I’m really enjoying it. It’s so easily customizable.

DickFiasco,

Ok I installed Kali now how do I hack?

Rognaut,

Sudo apt install sl

sl

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar
amotio, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?

I have recently started using KDE and so far i like it after years of XFCE on slower pc. And every now and then I think about switching to some debian based distro but AUR spoiled me and now I am too lazy. Its great that with my setuo I can change distros and have working OS in under an hour with all my software already setup.

SanndyTheManndy,

KDE ran much smoother with the same resources on my desktop, I regret not switching sooner.

WashedOver, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

Kind of reframes the whole being a vegetarian thing…

Chewy7324,

Well, did you know I’m vegetarian and used to run Arch? If you could show me your fridge and computer, please, I’ll fix them for you!

Z3k3, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?

I’ll be honest at this point in my life anthing that pops up it gets a 1 simply for annoying me.

I’m never randomly recommending anything unless asked and if I do when asked specifically about it the app owners sure as shit don’t need to know about it

lobut,

It’s annoying when I start some software to get something done and it’s asking me to do a survey. I’m in the middle of something! What’s wrong with you?!

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

The survey is administered by a cat.

Meron35,

Would you like to rate our app?

❌Not now ❌Yes ✅Not ever

Z3k3,

I think it’s the fact that 3rd box rarely exists that has gotten me this way

TxzK,

The fact that these popups exists in the first place makes me angry

possiblylinux127, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?

This was funny the first time I saw it, back when windows 10 came out.

lurch,

it’s still new for gentoo users who started installing that day and decided to go with openoffice from source.

Trollception,

Can’t wait until Windows 12 or whatever comes out and Windows 11 magically becomes the go-to version.

possiblylinux127,

No this meme is from 2018

Karcinogen, in I don't...

Why not?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s killing what effectively is the backbone of what makes up Linux and the open source world - diversity.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

the only reason this bothers me is… ew… flatpak.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Linux’es diversity has never been found in the large fundamental pieces of software. Instead it’s typically been found in the nooks and crannies between them. We’ve typically had one or several of those and most have used those. It’s the kind of diversity you find between evolutionary differences between the same species, not revolutionary differences.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Still, we are where we are thanks to evolutionary dead ends (amongst other things).

Chewy7324,

There’s an increasing amount of wayland compositors, so I don’t think diversity goes away.

Additionally, hyprland supports plugins which can do most things an X.org window manager could do. E.g. there’s a plugin to support river’s window layout protocol, which allows for creating custom window layout generator.

Diversity doesn’t just vanish, it’s replaced by new possibilities, created by solid protocol specifications with multiple implementations.

Similarily, nixpkgs and other repos continue to grow, just like flathub does too. These projects aren’t killing diversity, they’re enabling it.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was talking in general, didn’t have Wayland in mind in particular… but I did have systemd in mind.

mb_,

I would argue they are all the same since most are based on wlroots and if wlroots doesn’t support something neither does the “increasing amount of Wayland compositors”.

terminhell, in I don't...

To devils advocate a little in general with this topic: For wider spread adoption, Linux kinda needs to adopt around more standards. If you put yourself in the shoes of the average windows or Mac (even iOS/Android) user; it’s an overall standardized experience.

Linux now, is mostly a choice of DE and package manager. I still absolutely want distros like arch and Gentoo to still exists as they are.

ElderWendigo,

Windows and Mac don’t have standards; they’re single solitary stand alone monoliths. The user experience is the same in their walled gardens because they are the same, not because those systems embrace standards. In particular Microsoft’s lack of standards has been a point of pain for Linux and FOSS users for decades. Linux has actual standards and that is exactly why there is so much diversity. That diversity would have crumbled into chaos long ago if the Linux community did not embrace standards.

bobs_monkey,

If Windows users had to deal with the dependency issues, it likely would’ve never taken off. That’s kind of the problem I’ve seen around various Linux distros, though I wager it’s gotten a lot better in recent years. For the record, I’ve been out of the Linux game for a good 6 years, and I barely ever boot up my computer much. I’m able to run my business completely off my phone (except tax season), and I haven’t made the earnest effort to get back into it due to time constraints.

grue,

If Windows users had to deal with the dependency issues

Have you never heard the term “DLL Hell?” It’s called that because DOS and Windows specifically use .dll files for dependencies.

bobs_monkey,

No I haven’t, learn something new every day

21Cabbage, in Hey, have you ever heard of Pop!_OS?

I don’t have a PC right now but I’m a Mint guy.

Jerkface,

“1994 or 2024” for 200$, Alex.

Steve,

Both, obviously

Andrew15_5, in I don't...
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

Flatpak doesn’t conform to the XDG home directory, and that upsets me. Also we have an ongoing dispute between SI and IEC units on their GitHub. But I like it otherwise.

Sanctus, in I don't...
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Distros should be free to evolve and fill any amd every niche. Let the rivers of life flow.

db2,

It is by the juice of distro that thoughts acquire speed, the fingers acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my rig in motion.

nxdefiant, in I don't...
BetaDoggo_, in I don't...

Flatpak is good for diversity. Users don’t need to worry about whether the obscure distro they want to use has the software they want in its repos. If a distro supports flatpak it will work with most popular software out of the box.

tkk13909,

Plus, developers can create their own repositories that can then be used on any distro.

taladar,

Developers are exceptionally bad at packaging software though.

tkk13909,

Still better than developers providing .tar.gz files or hosting an apt repo.

taladar,

Depends, at least with the APT repo there is a chance they used lintian to avoid the worst mistakes.

Moobythegoldensock,

Having run PostmarketOS on an old Samsung Galaxy tablet and now Arch on PineTab 2, Flatpak often works better than the native package manager. Especially with Wayland, many packages just work including touchscreen.

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

I may be misunderstanding flatpack, though I do understand the draw of all dependencies in one package.

One of the big things that drew me to linux some years ago was “oh, you don’t have to reinstall every dependency 101 times in a packaged exe so the system stays much smaller?” As well as in-place updates without a restart. It resulted in things being much much less bloated, or maybe that was just placebo.

Linux seems to be going in the flatpack direction which seems to just be turning it into a windows-like system. That and nix-like systems where everything is containerized and restarting is the only thing that applies updates seems to be negating those two big benefits.

turbowafflz, in I don't...

Honestly anything that doesn’t get ported to wayland is probably old enough that it doesn’t really make sense to use as your primary desktop anyway. The most niche DE I regularly use is NsCDE, but it’s entirely FVWM scripts and FVWM is planning on adding wayland support. It’ll be a little sad to lose things like Trinity, WindowMaker, and Afterstep, but they were never amazing anyway and either way I doubt X will actually be unusable for a long time still.

jellyfish, (edited )

I miss bspwm, none of the Wayland compositors work quite the same. Hyprland is close, but it’s just not quite as good. I moved to Wayland for the security benefits, but I miss X11/bspwm.

The worst part is there’s no standardization around screenshots/screen sharing/etc. so every DE/WM in Wayland has to be supported separately, or implement wlroots; which restricts how the software can be written.

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