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Matriks404, in Year of the Diagonal Linux Desktop, y'all

Any time some obscure Linux feature is mentioned I see this xkcd comic in my mind: xkcd.com/619/

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Well, Flash is now dead so nobody actually does that anymore.

cellardoor, in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻

I have a Dell XPS, very compatible and essentially had no issues. Sleek laptops too, good for being on the road.

mlg, in Linus does not fuck around
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like people are overlooking the fact that this is typical early internet behavior lol.

I get that its the linux kernel mailing list, but I’m pretty sure Linus was way more wild online than in person because that’s how public internet forums and IRC used to be like.

Stallman has also said some equally braindead stuff lol.

pewgar_seemsimandroid, (edited ) in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻

uhh ThinkPad yes ThinkPad ThinkPad is linux THINKPAD PENGUIN

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fine print: oh yea also framework

SLGC,

Which ThinkPad?

ChillPill,
@ChillPill@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been rocking a first gen X1 Yoga (6th gen intel) for like 5-6 years, three or so of those years I’ve been using Pop!_OS and its been pretty good. I suspect that a 6th gen intel may be a little lacking for your uses, just to say that most ThinkPads will be good.

derpgon,

Rocking E15 Gen2 with AMD CPU for about 3 years now, can’t complain besides the fucking fingerprint reader having proprietary drivers (thus not working on Linux).

So, the E model line is a nice work laptop with basically no GPU performance whatsoever.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

yes

drdnl, (edited )

We use about seven ThinkPad T16 and P16s professionally with zero issues. Can recommend

Edit: the AMD versions, those generally work better with Linux

littletranspunk, in low effort meme
yamanii, in [Crosspost] "Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex..."
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

They joke but AMD raised their numbers for gpus just because it looked small compared to nvidia.

Adanisi, (edited ) in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

Pinebook Pro seems like a good option. It’s like a netbook. But it’s much more free than your average netbook and uses an ARM processor.

Debian Stable is a good distro for a beginner, in my opinion.

Fuzzypyro,

No no no no. I love the pinebook pro. But please don’t suggest it to anyone as a newbie hardware choice trying to get anything done. There are so many little quirks on hardware this slow and moreso having to deal with arm repos and all of the incompatible software/workarounds.

A few examples.

  1. If you want to watch YouTube you basically have one browser option. Chromium. Additionally if you want to watch any drm content then you need to install a docker container that runs chromium that has drm enabled.
  2. App images and flatpak software repos are nowhere near complete which can be not great for someone who is just trying to get some work done. Really not great when some devs are exclusively distributing via flatpak.
  3. No virtualization. It just doesn’t have the capability. Sure there are docker containers but that isn’t exactly virtualization.

I love my pinebook. It’s a great machine for just have a very cheap low spec thin client with a decent keyboard and screen but I would never ever recommend it to a newbie.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

How is a netbook good for his use case? I don’t think you could game on it unless you exclusively play Quake III.

onlinepersona, in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻

linuxpreloaded.com for a longer list

These are my favorites (EU based)

  1. TuxedoComputers
  2. SlimBook
  3. Star Labs Systems

Tuxedo Computers can get you a very good dev laptop for ~1500€ (64GB RAM, AMD/Intel CPU, NVIDIA/AMD graphics card). If you will be working in AI, I imagine you’ll need CUDA (?) aka NVIDIA.
If you don’t go for anything on linuxpreloaded (which I wouldn’t recommend), it’s good to check whether what you’re buying has linux hardware support by checking the Linux Hardware DB. Even if you don’t look, it’ll probably work, but better safe than sorry if you’re going to dump 1/3 or 1/2 of your months salary into something (depending on where you are).

For a distro, I dunno what level you are, but Distro Chooser can help you out with making a choice. My recommendations:

linux beginner

Linux mint. nice desktop environment, looks like a mashup between windows and mac, still missing advanced options, but quite customisable. comes with suitable standard software and cloud integrations (you can connect to a bunch of clouds), relatively up to date

Ubuntu is well-known, some proprietary companies even consider it “the linux” and only make linux versions for it. It’s quite stable. However, it isn’t my first recommendation anymore as they are going down a proprietary route. I’m not sure if they have ads yet, but wouldn’t surprise me if they started.

desktop environment

This is the desktop suite, a bundle of packages that work well together on any distro, with its own look and feel. There are basically 3 camps:

  • windows look n feel
    • KDE: is the most known, is very customisable, has an abundant amount of themes, icon sets, login screens, fonts, and a well-sized userbase. They prefix many app names with “K”. Ubuntu even has a distro version called “Kubuntu” with KDE on it
    • Cinnamon: main user is Linux Mint
    • LXDE and XFCE: look closer to windows 95 and windows XP, consume minimal resources. configuration is through the interface, advanced configuration through files
  • mac look n feel
    • Gnome: they are well known and source of flame wars (gnome vs KDE). windows don’t have title bars, things are very rounded, not very configurable, heavily mac inspired
  • tiling window managers
    • these aren’t desktop environments, but sit more in the middle, they manage windows. best to watch a video about tiling window managers. they are very geeky and perfect if you love using nothing but your keyboard

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noxy, in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

Avoid Lenovo. At least, I have not had great experiences with the ThinkPad T14s AMD, both gen 1 and gen 2.

Gen 2 came with an Aetheros (sp?) bt/wifi card that would never wake up after suspend, had to get an Intel replacement, thankfully the bad one wasn’t soldered in and I could replace it.

Trackpad has glitches that had to be mitigated in the kernel - mitigated well enough that it doesn’t bother me but it’s still silly

And both gen 1 and 2 still cannot reliably wake from suspend, and experience unreasonably high battery drain while suspended

Then again that could be a problem with all modern laptops…

8tomat8,

I’ve never had better experience with Linux than on ThinkPad. It made me love distro hoping again.

caseyweederman,

I’m a fan of the old IBM ThinkPads. Not sure about the recent ones.
I’ve had huge problems with one of Lenovo’s Legion laptops. Awful support too, they did everything they could to not have to fix it. It took a licensed third party to finally take us seriously and fix the dang thing.

So I wouldn’t recommend Lenovo unless the only alternative was Dell.

Hellstormy,
@Hellstormy@lemmy.world avatar

I run Kubuntu on a T15 Gen 1 for work and it works really well.

nxdefiant, (edited )

I’ve run Linux on the T410, T520, P50, P51, X1g2, X1g5, X1 Yoga, and p16s, all when those laptops were new. Sometimes the wifi was hard to configure, or the fingerprint scanner didn’t work, or the wwan card wasn’t supported, or the power states where fucky and drained the battery, but that was in it’s way all part of the fun.

It’s definitely gotten easier over time to run Linux on new hardware and I’ll pick a Thinkpad for the job every time. I use a modern Thinkpad with linux for work every day.

drdnl,

I have had a couple T14s without issue, did you remember to change the suspend mode in the bios to Linux?

noxy,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

Yep

half_built_pyramids, in Your average Wine enjoyer

Badlands chugs, legend

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Oh holy shit you’re right! Badlands Booker! Total legend. I actually met him at an eating contest way back. Seemed like a really cool guy.

IntentionallyAnon, (edited ) in Your average Wine enjoyer

Denuvo drm: allow me to introduce myself

Rikj000,
@Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Just find a build with it ripped out / worked around it and play offline?

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

It works nowadays.

possiblylinux127,

Honestly DRM is bad and should be rejected. That means no Spotify, Netflix or Denuvo.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hell, I’m down with that, I don’t use any of that.

possiblylinux127,

Exactly it can be very hard to break away for some people but once you do its a breath of fresh air.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Meeh, I’ve had so many things in life taken away from me at some point that I just stopped caring to be honest 🤷. I just keep an open mind now (or at least try to) and am more like “oh, no more of that huh… ok, let’s see what was next on my to do list”.

My mom always told me “people can take away everything from you, money, status, freedom… one thing they can never take away - your mind”.

Rodeo,

I can’t find it now, but there is an Existential Comic that addresses this attitude perfectly. The philosopher is talking about how he always has some form of freedom, so he gets chained to a wall in a dungeon, and then he says “at least I still have the freedom to interpret my situation!”

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ah, yes, I saw that commic somewhere, I think someone posted it on Lemmy, but there was a twist to it at the end… can’t remember what it was, but it was funny 😂.

Rodeo,

The person who chained him to the wall asks “And how do you interpret this situation?” He replies “it sucks.”

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, that was it 🤣🤣🤣.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

It should be circumvented, not rejected.

possiblylinux127,

That’s illegal

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ummm… not exactly, they sell shit and then take that shit away from you when they see fit. If that’s not illegal, then me circumventing their DRM for my own personal use most definitely isn’t.

Plus, it really is legal to do RCE for your own personal use. It’s illegal to share that info.

possiblylinux127,

I think you are mixing up illegal with unethical. I strongly disagree that any level of DRM warrants piracy. If you don’t like a company having power over you its time to seek alternatives.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

This where you and I differ. I can cross that threshold if I’m motivated enough (have done it before). I’d do it just for the f u’s if nothing else. And share it as an ultimate f u.

SomethingBurger,

No.

pimento64,
Rai,

That’s a good fucking image.

DrDominate,
@DrDominate@lemmy.world avatar

I need that as an animated gif.

Nawor3565,

Have fun consuming media then

CaptainBlagbird, in Your average Wine enjoyer
@CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world avatar

This is not wine… Powerade at best 🤔

tpihkal,

Mad Dog 20/20.

Klear, (edited )

This is not Madd Dogg. Big Smoke at best.

EurekaStockade, in Your average Wine enjoyer

Guava juice in a wine glass?

GiantRobotTRex,

I don’t know but it definitely doesn’t look like wine.

redditReallySucks, in Can't relate to be honest, I still use MBR boot
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I just killed my desktop environment but the bootloader works.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That is good news actually.

owenfromcanada, in Linux laptop recommendation thread🐧💻
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re looking for something that can handle AAA games, I’ve had a great experience with my Dell G5. Linux Mint had everything working out of the box, including the dedicated Nvidia GPU (though I agree with others, AMD is easier in Linux).

My laptop also has the advantage of allowing you to do weight training every time you move it, so there’s that to consider.

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