Whenever I try to use GNOME, there never seems to be a setting for the thing I want to do.
I convinced a friend to try Linux once, and she abandoned it because it didn’t have a setting that she needed for her work. Later, when I tried KDE, not only was the setting there, but it was the default.
It really sucks that desktop is the default for so many distros, because most users coming from Mac or Windows don’t even realize they can use a different desktop environment. So, if your only experience with Linux is GNOME, and you think “Linux sucks”, I can hardly blame you.
Yeah, KDE is just better in so many ways. When gnome launched kde was built on a not-fully-open-source library, but then they fully open sourced QT, and that was decades ago so now there is no excuse!
Yeah, I personally like it quite a lot, but I do find it confusing that so many distros ship it as a default.
It’s probably THE best linux user experience on a laptop with all the large buttons and gestures, but you have to be ready to adapt to the environment instead of the environment adapting to you.
And it’s a shame, because using it can be quite fun if you know what to expect and what not, but I think there is a significant lack of communication on what are the use cases it has been built for.
Also you have to like/not hate libadwaita, which I know is… controversial
My understanding is the KDE release schedule/development cycle keeps it from being a viable primary desktop environment for non-rolling release distros.
I got most of my Linux desktop time used KDE but just after switching to Wayland hated it. After every update that fixed some kind of show stopping bug they introduced another one. I then switched to gnome and have been happy ever since, even if I don’t like this whole macOS UX stuff, but it simply works and doesn’t break once you touch it.
My top priority for a desktop is stability, which puts Gnome squarely at the top of my list. Gnome may not get features first, but they’ll do it right in the long run.
The go-to meme is VRR on Wayland in Gnome, which is taking forever with a major roadblock being how the cursor is drawn on screen. KDE has VRR support now, but (surprise!) it doesn’t work properly when a cursor is on screen. So you can either have no implementation or a broken implementation. I don’t mind Gnome choosing not to ship a half-working feature. I also understand the KDE team’s decision to have something in place for some use cases even if it doesn’t consistently work, but that’s not what I personally want out of a desktop.
Both KDE and Gnome are fucking amazing projects, this circle-jerk of “gnome bad because development slow” is a waste of time. Let’s spend more time bullying Microsoft instead. Have any of you used the Windows desktop environment recently? It’s fucking trash.
Gnome 3 carries forward virtual desktops, but now they can only be arranged vertically, and some folks complain they don’t like it that way.
Eventually gnome changes their mind and now virtual desktops are only allowed to be arranged horizontally…
Even fvwm had custom geometry for virtual desktops, doesnt seem like it should be that hard. The fact that they changed their minds you would have thought to be a clue that it should be configurable, but no…
Every time I try gnome I walk away with a feeling that I might as well use Windows. In fact, Windows has more powerful window management than gnome at this point.
Virtual desktops are arranged on a one dimensional axis. Whether it's vertical, horizontal or fucking diagonal doesn't really change how they work. It's just fluff and animations, really.
Don't care about this whole drama that someone is trying to start. At the end of the day Gnome is just the most comfortable DE for me personally. Plain, simple, beautiful, no cascading dropdowns, no distractions. Customizable just enough. The next option would be XFCE, mainly for a great balance between performance and niceness
If it’s sending information to Microsoft then it has clearly been hacked. Likely by Microsoft. It was very nice of that young man to break protocol and blow the whistle on this whole thing. You should send him an itunes gift card as a thank you.
These are the same people - CIA just outsourced their call center to India & they have to send all gift cards back to the CIA, you just cut out the middleman.
You reminded me of those YouTube vigilantes that troll Indian scammers. One installed the remote desktop app they use and let them access a honeypot linux machine just to mock their incompetence and confusion. Then proceeded to take control of their machine steal their data and wipe out their computers. Their reactions are hilarious. It’s sad that a lot of very smart people are dragged into it by thugs that leverage debt and physical threats to force them into the scam call centers.
As much as a person could find a reason to feel sorry for them they unnecessarily verbally abuse people they are scamming and that was a choice they made. Their hands are not clean from playing a villain.
And escaping poverty by putting someone else in poverty …that’s the capitalist game. No ethics is part of the package. They are not victims.
You are all over this thread harassing people. I don’t care about your opinion. Don’t talk about crap you don’t understand. Watch the myriad of YouTube channels that cover the scam industry in India. Some people have their family and lives literally threaten with death to pay debts working for scam call centers by literal gangsters. That is sad. I’m not putting my hands in the fire for anyone. But that is also the product of an exploitative capitalist mindset. None of the people actually making the phonecalls are “escaping poverty”. It’s the owners of the computers and offices and bank accounts that accrue the scam money who are getting rich. And those people rarely set foot in the actual call centers.
I’m allowed to engage in a forum where I talk to other people other than just you. You are not my world and I don’t need your approval.
‘Harass’ said the person who’s obsessed with me… I think you are personalizing this a lot.
I don’t care about your opinion.
Then why are you here talking to me about my opinion ?
Don’t talk about crap you don’t understand.
You aren’t my boss in life. But this is easily fixed with the block button so this is a choice that you made. I didn’t force it on you to either read it or not.
Watch the myriad of YouTube channels that cover the scam industry in India. Some people have their family and lives literally threaten with death to pay debts working for scam call centers by literal gangsters.
welcome to poverty. This is what happens to people who can’t afford care too. Life is not fair to impoverished but that is NOT nor is it EVER an excuse to impose that on someone else.
That is sad.
Scamming someone else is not sad. It’s infuriating and it’s gross when you give it such an excuse as empathy to con or hurt others. They should own they harmed someone.
I’m not putting my hands in the fire for anyone.
Yet here you are.
But that is also the product of an exploitative capitalist mindset.
And here you are infighting instead of attacking the mindset.
None of the people actually making the phonecalls are “escaping poverty”.
Also you: “* Some people have their family and lives literally threaten with death to pay debts working for scam call centers by literal gangsters. *”
It’s the owners of the computers and offices and bank accounts that accrue the scam money who are getting rich. And those people rarely set foot in the actual call centers.
Yeah and if the person on the phone is no longer in debt and the person on the other side of the line is, they benefited. They are still a villain.
He’s just a troll. I have seen many comments from this person They’re not even consistent in their opinions. Looks as if they make up shit, probably just asking for attention rather than contributing to the discussion.
I ended up on a massive Whatsapp group populated primarily by Indian women after I took a content writing class a few years ago. Made several very good friends. I’ve asked them about the whole Indian scammer thing. One of them said she knows a few, and they do it because they literally don’t have other options for employment. Which makes sense. Rampant, unfettered capitalism forces people to make decisions that go against their conscience for the sake of survival. I feel bad for scammers sometimes, other times I feel less charitable when they’re scamming my dad…
It’s always an excuse that criminals make - that they don’t have any other options for employment. It’s a shitty excuse when 95% of the country is employed and don’t scam people. It’s easy money for them, nothing more.
I’ve done a lot of thinking about the scam market, and there is no way it isn’t some kind of “CIA is behind the cartels” situation.
Primary target? Elderly Americans.
Objective? Bring generational wealth to institutions.
FCC could stop the vast majority of this shit by using techniques similar to DKIM via VOIP to stop spoofing (STIR/SHAKEN). This problem is solved. Has been for a while.
I can only assume they don’t drop the hammer because they can take a cut instead.
As a European I can assure you 80 yo Americans are living in poverty compared to most Europeans.
I know that Americans can’t see the other side of the ocean but scam calls are made everywhere.
I love these Americans who live in their tiny bubble of “America is rich as hell”. In Europe we mostly compare America with countries like Russia and other large but poor countries.
Americans wealth index only trails behind Iike 3 EU countries. Your statement is googlably false. (Germany, Norway. Not France Not Britain, not Spain, not Italy…not most of Europe).
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