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Worx, in It's the beer, I knew it!

I wonder if these idiots know you can buy a second-hand laptop for less than half of that $40,000 and install Linux on it yourself

sloppy_diffuser,

In 1974?

MadMadBunny,

With this technology?

ElBarto, (edited )
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

At this time of year?

Huschke,

When it’s this cold outsight?

spookedbyroaches,

Yes

YarHarSuperstar,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Hell if you give me $10000, just a quarter of the initial amount, I could get you a brand new laptop and still have a few bucks to give you back as change.

ElBarto, in Don't think my phone runs Nvidia... or Wayland 🤔
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

None of the numbers are centred.

wiikifox,
@wiikifox@pawb.social avatar

If you see the numbers out of center you have terminal cancer

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

How long do I have doc?

wiikifox,
@wiikifox@pawb.social avatar

The sum of all those numbers, in months

ElBarto, (edited )
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Couldn’t it just be the grey one?

MaliciousKebab,

If you have the courage, wink.

possiblylinux127,

Hooray!

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

That’s less than 2 years.

wiikifox,
@wiikifox@pawb.social avatar

You need to count the yellow one too

lurch,

the yellow one is centered to the universe

rooster_butt,

The 0 is pretty good

cypherpunks, in Year of the Diagonal Linux Desktop, y'all
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar
768, in I am one of you now

Trve Arch users don’t remember their install process.

zurchpet,
@zurchpet@lemmy.ml avatar

I even ported an install once from one device to another just by copying the data and installing the bootloader.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I only remember how long it takes

victorz,

Can confirm. Install once and it lives forever until the hardware dies or is replaced.

kadu, in No tearing support discussions for me
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

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  • TunaCowboy,

    What a bloated workflow, just connect your oscilloscope via UART and decode via RS232.

    zeroblood, (edited )

    Look at this scrub, they didn’t even put the whole dictionary into their code and tell it to choose random words.

    onelikeandidie,

    Look, another failure. A dictionary is clearly bloated when you only want words that can be played in hangman! 3 letter words and bellow comprise way more memory overhead than required for a good challenging experience.

    grue,

    a matrix printer in another room

    It’s “dot matrix printer,” you phony!

    https://c.tenor.com/20-mRohqYJUAAAAd/tenor.gif

    disheveledWallaby,
    sep,

    We absolutly dropped the dot from the word in informal speak. Probably 2 days after owning one… “matriseskrivar” was much easier than “punktmatriseskrivar”

    callyral,
    @callyral@pawb.social avatar

    you can not look at the source code

    so you made a closed source software?

    agent_flounder,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry my DECwriter jammed up on that last bit after “absolute”, could you repeat?

    grandkaiser, in You have no power here

    Security through obscurity is not security

    SrTobi,

    That’s why I use NixOS. Double the obscurity, double the security!

    SmoothIsFast,

    Say that too loudly, and you might upset the apple crowd lol

    dream_weasel, in If linux distros were WW2 tanks. Made by a guy who tries to play War Thunder with linux.

    An absolutely and totally unbiased view ofc.

    Chariotwheel,

    Boy, I wonder which Linux distro OP uses

    Pharmacokinetics,
    @Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world avatar

    Are we talking about War Thunder Russian bias or Linux Debian bias?

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Image having a “War Thunder Russian bias” and still giving the Sherman more credit for beating the Nazis than the T-34.

    I’m actually offended, and I’ll gladly throw down on any Wehraboo that thinks the Shermans were trash

    backhdlp, in If linux distributions were tools.
    @backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I use arch btw

    bingbong,

    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    furycd001, in Some heroes don't wear capes
    @furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

    Had some problems while trying to compile and install a WiFi driver for the first time. Managed to find the email of the driver’s creator and sent them a message. They responded a few hours later with incredibly helpful guidance, walking me through the process and enabling me to get it working, all while gaining valuable insights…

    z00s,

    This is the way

    victorz, in Two moods

    Haven’t run into a game yet that doesn’t run on Linux when using Proton. 👌

    Honytawk,

    Haven’t run into a game yet that doesn’t run on Windows.

    Without the need to fiddle with any settings. It is all just click and play.

    victorz,

    Same experience on Linux for me. Install Steam, install Proton, set it to be default for all games. Click and play. 🙂👍 Not really “fiddling”. It’s a one-time thing that I equate to just installing Steam. Very good experience.

    flamingos,
    @flamingos@ukfli.uk avatar

    The only games that give me any trouble are some Japanese VNs, which can be absolutely cursed for some reason. Like, massive tech juggernauts like Cyberpunk are click and play, but I’ve spent hours getting books-with-PNGs working.

    zurohki,

    That’s because their code quality is usually an absolute dumpster fire that only works if Wine exactly replicates obscure Windows bugs.

    reev,

    My problem is that I enjoy specific multiplayer games. League, Val, Finals. Those are the three right now and riot specifically seems a tad disinterested in Linux. Sadge.

    Mango,

    League is owned by Tencent who is specifically interested in using the software for the benefit of the Chinese government as is mandatory for them. They don’t want you using an OS with actual security. Heck, they don’t even want you to see a skin or splash art that hasn’t been approved by their government!

    Rodeo,

    The anti cheat in league is literally a rootkit.

    When it came out there was an outcry and their statement was basically “okay okay, so its a rootkit. But guys, you can trust us! We’re totally not going to do anything nefarious with it!”

    I can’t believe people still play that shit.

    ayaya,
    @ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

    You mean Vanguard, which was announced but isn’t actually in the game yet. Their plan is to add it late February or early March. We don’t actually know any details about the implementation except that it won’t be used in the macOS version.

    Trincapinones,

    I thought it was going to be added this 24th, I was playing this week a lot as a “last goodbye” for that reason

    fox2263,

    As a novice, how does one use proton, and can I install StarCraft 2

    victorz, (edited )

    You install it from within Steam, or using flatpak if you’re installing Steam via flatpak [Proton on flatpak has reached EOL, try installing via Steam instead]. Then in settings you set it so every game uses the Proton compatibility layer, or whatever it’s called. You don’t have to do it per game, it’s a global setting (as well as a setting for each game if you prefer).

    I can’t answer for a specific game though, you’d have to simply try it out or check a database which has info on games that can run using Proton. I don’t know the site from memory.

    fox2263, (edited )

    Thanks for the info!

    On Eindows, StarCraft 2 comes from the Blizzard battle.net launcher.

    I’m curious to know if I get a steam deck if I can play non steam games. I don’t really want to install windows on it.

    victorz,

    Let’s hope someone who knows about Steam Deck can answer that for you. Otherwise I’d try to find a community dedicated to Steam Deck. 👍

    someacnt_,

    I mean, some games do not work. Because they do not work on Windows as well. Looking at you, ksp 2 🤦‍♂️

    victorz,

    It’s such a shame about KSP 2. I was so hyped when I saw it was announced, then it all turned to shiz.

    Wodge,
    @Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

    Destiny 2 still won’t work, and Simracing is still a no go.

    SkyezOpen,

    That just means you can’t buy 12 dlc to unlock the seasons, dungeons, raids, and whatever the hell else they’re paywalling. Destiny got enshittified.

    AstralPath,

    The simracing part is a real bummer. That’s the only reason I’m still on Win.

    Darorad,

    I pretty much only have issues with ea stuff. I was playing it takes two, and it was like 50/50 if it would work for me. It always worked for my friend on windows.

    cybersandwich,

    The Finals works on Linux!

    In other news, I got a message saying I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux.

    victorz,

    That’s gotta be rectifiable somehow. Did you contact some sort of support?

    cybersandwich,

    It said I could reach out to support but I was hopping off and it didn’t give me any links or anything actionable in the message. So I guess I can go hunt down the support info and complain.

    If I don’t get unbanned, oh well. I guess I won’t play that game anymore. Its not like I spent any money on it and my time invested in about an hour at this point.

    BirdyBoogleBop,

    That ban also pop up on your steam account? Because if it does that can screw you in other games if they have community servers.

    xigoi,
    @xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux

    How is that not illegal?

    cybersandwich,

    I know that’s a turn-of-phrase but it’s their game so they can do what they want.

    It probably trips some EAC flag because it realizes something is “amiss”. Id guess going through proton might behave a little differently and they think you are cheating or installing hacked dlls or something so they ban.

    I know when other games have caught a wave of Linux users in bans they reverse them in time.

    xigoi,
    @xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    If someone buys a product from you, you shouln’t be able to deny them from using it based on arbitrary criteria without a refund.

    duffkiligan,

    Don’t worry, they refunded his $0 for the free game.

    xigoi,
    @xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Oh, it’s free? Then never mind.

    smeg,

    There are a couple, but I’m spoiled for choice with great games so the convenience of being able to run something on my Steam Deck means that the few that don’t run just drop to the bottom of the backlog. Proton is really a brilliant feat of engineering.

    Darkraisisi,
    @Darkraisisi@feddit.nl avatar

    Maybe i bricked something in my machine somewhere when messing with drivers for machine learning cuda support. But I often have games that are ‘supported’ through proton but fail to launch or even crash my PC. Metro exodus & deep rock to name a few. Other games do run great. But still things like steam big picture being laggy is annoying.

    nomen_dubium,

    yeh that’ll probably be it tbf… the cuda drivers are specifically for scientific computing and are pretty rubbish for anything else unfortunately… even amd ones are like that :(

    however a way i found around it is to just push my gpu compute envs to docker and voila (also avoids the pain of installing the drivers cos nvidia actually provides a cuda docker image) :D

    victorz,

    That’s actually a good tip. Even though I don’t use CUDA and never have.

    knorke3,

    the one i am the most sad about is magicka 1 - great game but getting it to run on linux is (as far as i’ve found so far) pretty much impossible.

    Won’t claim that it runs all that great on windows either though - getting through a chapter without crashing is rarer than i’d like it to be…

    achilleas90,

    I recently heard about this. I used to play it. I searched on the steam discussion page and there is a fan patch that fixes all the crashes. It is on github. I found it for you. Try this. github.com/pj1234678/MagickaFix

    knorke3,

    was aware of it but it sadly doesn’t run on linux (at least not after me doing trial and error for 4 hours) and i felt the comparison to the unmodded one on windows fairer under these circumstances - thanks for trying to help though :)

    arandomthought, in Just a PSA

    If they don’t understand this, can we even call it intelligent life?

    transientpunk,
    @transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Truth

    partial_accumen,

    Maybe they use Emacs.

    Bonus: I googled “emacs” to make sure I got the capitalization right for the post and Google is throwing shade:

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7f8ff1f1-7fce-4d2d-a545-097a63246b0c.png

    TurnItOff_OnAgain,

    Nano forever!

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

    ed is the standard text editor.

    arandomthought,

    Well, then my point still stands.
    Jk, don’t hurt me please!

    dubyakay,

    Maybe it’s time to stop using GOOG

    jmcs,

    Google does the opposite of “vi”. Some people just like to watch the world burn.

    pirat,

    I misread “the world bum”

    The term “keming” is sometimes used informally to refer to poor kerning (the letters r and n placed too close together being easily mistaken for the letter m).

    Wikipedia: Kerning

    possiblylinux127,

    duck.com

    Octopus1348,
    @Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

    I don’t know how people get this. I tried but it didn’t do this.

    Skyhighatrist, (edited )

    Strange, I just tried and got the vi suggestion. And, googling vi gave me an emacs suggestion. So shade all around!

    hemko,

    Just capitalize it EMACS and people will think you’re more senior than in reality

    hemko,
    dukk,

    It’s the other way around, too.

    https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/58d179a2-e044-4f47-8b57-b158b396d947.jpeg

    Not as true though.

    hemko,

    This gotta be some inside joke leaking from google

    Aurenkin,

    Maybe they use Emacs.

    Exactly

    qjkxbmwvz, in Accurate?

    I don’t get all the Apple hate from the Linux community. Out of the box you have a fully usable *NIX machine — they even switched the default shell to zsh! No advertising in the Start menu, and ssh (client and server) included by default. Install homebrew and boom — tmux, htop, nload, lolcats…most of your favorite tools can be installed easy as on any linux distro.

    I use Debian for personal use, and I much prefer it…but basically only because I prefer i3 to the Mac GUI.

    phoneymouse,

    But why did they default to zsh?

    maryjayjay, (edited )

    Because they are asshats

    But really, because of the licenses. Bash went to gpl3.

    AVincentInSpace,

    Because they didn’t like that bash was GPL

    laverabe,
    dewritoninja,

    Apple is an awful company that screws thee customers over every chance they get

    linearchaos, (edited )
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    Virtually non-repairable hardware I’m especially salty on disks and keyboards. The SMCs have been garbage for years.

    Expensive as hell.

    Crappy default package management. Crappy heat management. Years of ignoring customers wants (escape key). Their logs are half-assed. Xcode is pretty trashy and they keep doing non backwards compatible upgrades for things. Once* a box reaches a number of years old You can’t get OS updates anymore then you can’t have xcode versions updates anymore.

    They’re pretty, They have great battery life, and they’re *nix but the advantages fall apart pretty quickly when you start digging into them.

    Pipoca,

    Crappy default package management.

    What’s wrong with homebrew?

    the_sisko,

    What’s wrong with homebrew?

    Crappy default package management.

    Pipoca,

    Homebrew might as well be default.

    the_sisko,

    That makes about as much sense as saying that pip, gem, npm, cargo, or nix should called be the default package manager on Mac OS…

    The default package manager is the default because it manages the system’s software. RPM, Deb/apt, pacman, etc. Homebrew is like pip or docker or cargo or snap or whatever else. You can set it up if you’d like but it’s certainly not a default. (Though I’m not trying to dispute that it’s good 😊)

    Mac OS doesn’t have a good default package management solution (though they would if they just opened up the app store and added a CLI). It’s ok to admit it, and say that third party folks (who Apple does not support unless I’m missing something) are powering a pretty good third party experience. If only Apple cared about people who wanted a truly free an customizable computer, they could make a great OS :)

    Pipoca,

    Homebrew is fairly different from pip, cargo or npm in that only python developers use pip, only rust developers use cargo, etc. And those are mostly used to manage libraries, rather than executables.

    Meanwhile, essentially everyone who uses the console uses homebrew regardless of what programming languages they might or might not use. I was making a joke about how good, useful and basically required homebrew is.

    linearchaos, (edited )
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    Other people’s software is great, what was asked is why the Apple hate.

    Apple doesn’t provide Homebrew, Apple updates *in the past have occasionally broken it horribly. (Looking at you El Capitan)

    But while we are taking a look at home brew, If you need a specific version of something you are occasionally up a creek. It’s been a hot few years since I was daily driving OSX *as my primary, but when I needed a certain version of memcache or a certain version of netcat for a feature, It just wasn’t there and then compiling it for the OS was a far bigger pain in the ass than it is on any Linux distro.

    redbr64,
    @redbr64@lemmy.world avatar

    Wait, what’s up with the escape key? I don’t know much about macs

    maryjayjay,

    When they added that stupid touch bar they removed the physical esc key. They brought it back in later models

    redbr64,
    @redbr64@lemmy.world avatar

    I assumed that’s the only thing it could mean but literally could not believe anyone would decide to remove the fucking escape key of all things… WTF

    sloppy_diffuser, (edited )

    EOL support. I have a 11-12 year old System76 laptop. Works perfectly on the latest Ubuntu version.

    Their shitty walled garden for both software (iOS) and hardware (soldered components that don’t need to be).

    Overpriced.

    Fake sense of privacy.

    I used Mac OS 6.x through 10.4. When I was in college and couldn’t afford to replace my aging G4, I triple booted Fedora, Mac OS X, and Windows on a hackintosh where I gravitated towards mostly Linux and Windows for a couple games. Owned a couple iPhones but decided to role Android when the nexus 6 came out to save some money when I had my first child on the way and my current phone was dying.

    I don’t miss anything I left behind. Had a short stint at work during COVID where I was given a MacBook. While not horrible, I ran into enough nuances I was able to justify to my work using a Linux laptop instead. I just don’t find anything appealing to give them my business.

    fosforus,

    I don’t get all the Apple hate from the Linux community.

    Being poor hurts. Distributing hurt makes it feel better.

    SRo,

    Apple gets hate from everyone. Windows users, *nix users; doesn’t matter. The only ones who don’t hate apple are clowns. Are you a clown?

    MacNCheezus,
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    Agreed. Macs are perfectly fine and capable UNIX machines, really the only problem with them is the price. And yes I get that some people aren’t fans of the UI but it requires no more of a learning curve than, say, GNOME.

    But whatever. I’m not even offended by this meme, it’s actually rather factual on the whole, which can’t be said for everything posted in this group.

    rambaroo, (edited )

    Mac is proprietary bullshit that’s why. It’s fine for work usage. At home I want to support FOSS.

    Also MacBooks are a ripoff. You get 6-8 years of support and then all updates stop. Not worth it when Linux support is indefinite, and even Windows gets you 10+ years.

    Telodzrum, in Accurate?

    Why are both Debian and Debian: Kidz Edition on there?

    visor841,

    Some people have kids, I guess.

    ace, in Cmake me!
    @ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

    People love to complain about CMake, often with valid complaints as well. But it - to this day - remains the only build system where I’ll actually trust a project when they say they are cross-platform.

    Being the Windows maintainer for OpenMW, it used to be absolute hell back a decade and half ago when an indirect dependency changed - and used something like SCons or Premake while claiming to be “cross-platform”, used to be that I had to write my own build solutions for Windows since it was all hardcoded against Linux paths and libraries.

    CMake might not be the coolest, most hip, build system, but it delivers on actually letting you build your software regardless of platform. So it remains my go-to for whenever I need to actually build something that’s supposed to be used.
    For personal things I still often hack together a couple of Makefiles though, it’s just a lot faster to do.

    rostby,

    Wasn’t WSL supposed to solve this problem

    ace,
    @ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

    Not really, WSL seems like it was mainly supposed to stop people leaping ship to be able to develop Node without the horribly painful Windows JS experience. And wouldn’t you know it, Microsoft has been making their own JavaScript language in Typescript.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    CMake and meson aren’t build systems, they are generators. If you want to use Ninja, just add -G Ninja.

    AMDIsOurLord,

    Cross platform

    (*As long as your platform isn’t shite)

    Desistance, in Useless messenger

    Stop using Facebook products

    RealPuyo,

    I’m tired of seeing it

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