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cupcakezealot, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

windows can install jezzball linux cant. checkmate.

caseyweederman,

NixOS is actually a JezzBall fork

pete_the_cat,

Just for the hell of it I googled it and there is a clone called kbounce haha

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

There’s like three OSS jezzball clones

cupcakezealot, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

unpopular opinion. homebrew is better than apt or yum.

Grass,

Probably why it’s an option on some distros

pete_the_cat,

Sorry you’re wrong 😛

Homebrew only supports one user (AFAIK). We had shared iMacs at work, and some stuff was installed using homebrew with the permissions modified so everyone could access what was installed. One night I got bored at work and upgraded some things… Which changed the permissions back to only the user that installed the cask (or whatever) and broke the terminal and other things for everyone else. My coworker was pissed the next time he saw me.

Any sane Linux package manager (I’m not counting Snap and FlatPak) installs stuff system-wide and all users can access the installed packages.

Linux is inherently a multi-user OS but Apple apparently stripped that feature from OS X.

AVincentInSpace,

Of course things are going to break if you take something that’s meant to be installed per-user and open up one user’s installation to everyone else on the system. Not Brew’s fault your company’s IT used it outside spec.

pete_the_cat,

It’s no necessarily Brew’s fault either, but more the shitty way Apple decided to implement it.

cholesterol, (edited ) in ***buntu

I’ll have a…

Meme that says ‘Ubuntu bad’

How original

And lots of upvotes

Daring today aren’t we

nx2,

No? The meme says Ubuntu based distros that don’t change anything bad

cholesterol,

Eh, okay. Still seems to ride the Ubuntu-bashing vibe.

surewhynotlem,

It’s fun to rag on how much of a POS your first car was, even though you secretly remember it fondly. That’s Ubuntu’s place now.

LovePoson,

Never was my first car… or any for that matter actually

monsterpiece42,

Me with Mint.

I also love cars and double love shitboxes despite having nicer cars now.

I still drive my shitbox most.

Neil,
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  • surewhynotlem,

    That brings back memories

    soupuos, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

    I know a lot of people like macOS, and I’m sure they get a lot done with it. For me however, it’s easily my least favorite popular OS. That’s even considering the terminal running zsh by default, which is miles ahead of Windows.

    A quirk that recently bit us at work is that Safari has a maximum allowed version based off your OS version. Now if it was just me as a user, I’d download a 3rd party browser. However, as a developer, I have to build solutions that work for every “reasonable” browser. This means I can’t use features that every modern browser has, including Safari, because Safari from 4 years ago didn’t have it.

    BURN,

    This used to be the case with IE. you’re always going to have to support at least one legacy browser.that’s one of the few real benefits of everyone moving to chromium based browsers.

    soupuos, (edited )

    Yeah, thankfully I never had to develop with IE in mind. Though I have heard a lot of people dislike it for that reason.

    You’re totally right about that being a benefit to everyone moving to chromium. Thankfully Firefox has kept pretty up to date with new features/standards too.

    bjoern_tantau, in That’s why KDE needs to be riced
    @bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

    When the first screenshots of Windows Vista were released my friends were commenting how it looks just like my Linux.

    db2, in That’s why KDE needs to be riced

    So Microsoft is mimicking Linux desktops and that means what to us?

    Olap,

    This is finally the year of the linux desktop!

    irmoz, in ***buntu

    Bashing Ubuntu is getting really fucking old.

    callyral,
    @callyral@pawb.social avatar

    I personally prefer Zshing Ubuntu

    XCraftMC,

    I’m more of a fishing kinda guy but whatever floats your boat.

    pewgar_seemsimandroid,

    as a windows user who is planning to switch to linux mint im gonna have to bash Ubuntu by calling it red arch since i assume people are making fun of the best distro linux mint

    cupcakezealot, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    microsoft: ill just put linux in the windows

    Andrew15_5, (edited )
    @Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

    Imagine no WSL, no nothing. The only way to use Bash/Zsh is to use either a full blown VM or switch to Linux. All coders would 100% move to Linux, except that code in C++++.

    BURN,

    I just develop in a VM that I SSH into from windows. No need for anything beyond the initial use of a windows terminal

    baseless_discourse, (edited )

    I am probably going to get downvoted to hell for this, but powershell is pretty good.

    You can write a whole project in powershell with proper intellisense. I think microsoft also sprinkled some f# type provider magic in it, so the programming experience is rather nice.

    imagine writing complex logic in bash, zsh or even fish.

    PlasticExistence,

    Even as the world’s biggest Microsoft hater I can admit that Powershell is pretty slick.

    The bad doesn’t always negate the good. Take birth control for instance. It was developed in a highly unethical way (tested on a large population in Puerto Rico without their knowledge or consent IIRC). That was a bad thing, but birth control by itself is a good thing that improves people’s lives.

    Andrew15_5,
    @Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

    powershell is pretty good.

    Pretty good by Windows standards, but it’s awful and too verbose and ugly by UNIX standards.

    imagine writing complex logic in bash, zsh or even fish.

    There are a lot of Bash wrappers for a lot of programs or the programs themselves are written in Bash. Maybe complex logic in Bash wouldn’t look pretty, but it is much easier than POSIX shell. And there is a LSP server for shellscript. If a custom command is present on the host, then the server will also see it and you can autocomplete it.

    Some things are easier done with shell than python, so it all depends.

    cupcakezealot, in The most secure OS named windows
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    windows defender is better than how it used to be where had to buy an expensive proprietary av or download clam av and hope for the best

    euphoric_cat, in So sad when it happens
    @euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I wish I could wipe my windows drive, but I have to use adobe shit, maya, unity and unreal. those are either too hard to install on linux, too expensive to buy a linux version, or works far inferior or not at all on linux.

    hopefully I can be forgiven because I game almost exclusively on linux now.

    jimerson,
    @jimerson@lemmy.world avatar

    Same. I’d give anything for viable Linux native Adobe alternatives. I’m trying to force myself to use Inkscape but it just cripples my productivity. I need to find an emotional support group for people who can’t leave their abusive windows relationship.

    notafox, (edited )
    @notafox@lemmy.world avatar

    Same. I’m a graphic designer and I use Adobe and Corel soft. Alternatives suck. Even if they wouldn’t suck, learning to use new software (that does same thing that older software does) after using old soft for 15+ years S U C K S.

    The kinda funny thing about Corel is the fact that they once had their own Linux distro, but they don’t have Linux versions of their programs.

    BURN,

    Same with Lightroom. There isn’t a viable alternative.

    euphoric_cat,
    @euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    should I spin up a matrix space? maybe we can support eachother /hj

    honestly I just want to be able to use adobe programs on linux. I need to use substance painter the most, which does have a Linux version surprisingly but it isn’t part of the subscription and only comes in form of a steam program for that specific year of update, so like substance 2022 or whatever. and better yet, it costs like $250.

    jimerson,
    @jimerson@lemmy.world avatar

    I’d subscribe to that!

    AngryCommieKender, (edited ) in Distros bad

    I don’t drink coffee… From what I can tell from this thread, I should be Amish

    nebula42, (edited ) in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'
    @nebula42@lemmy.world avatar

    Tbh it kinda comes to the reason why there are some people still using Windows XP in 2023: they refuse to let go. If another operating system can give them the same experience as Windows 10 with the latest support for all applications, hopefully they’ll take that as opposed to using an outdated version of Windows.

    Source: my main gaming rig is switching to arch once windows 10 reaches eol

    ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
    @ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    If you’re gaming, you should be using a distro that is stable. Arch is not worth the effort if you are just doing normie stuff like front-end work

    iloverocks,

    To be honest it is reliable on my system and the best thing is that I don’t have to think about updates, out of date dependence, package versions or packages in general. Just paru package done. As long as you are fine with setting some stuff up manually Arch is pretty amazing.

    nebula42, (edited )
    @nebula42@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve used arch before because of it’s philosophy of KISS. So far, no distro has been able to provide me with an experience as smooth as arch has. Plus I’m not just doing normie stuff I like to program sometimes.

    TLDR: it’s just what I’m comfortable using so idc if using another distro is easier for what I do.

    fatbeer, (edited ) in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

    Here’s my experience using Linux for 3 yrs now. I was excited enough to try a new OS that I learned how to install a new operating system on a new laptop I bought. I never could get rid of a drivers alert on every start up, even though I knew there was nothing wrong there. Googling the problem, the top 5 results were 5 completely different solutions. Whatever it’s a small problem so I ignored it. Months later my sound started screwing up, like distortions. (Ok, so maybe there is something wrong with my drivers.) But could never figure it out and could resolve the sound problem momentarily with a restart. With the sound issue happening more frequently, I thought I should get a new laptop, this time built with Linux pre installed by a company that knows what they’re doing. I bought a $1200 laptop from System 76, with specs that I could easily pay $500 less for. I don’t understand why the volume buttons don’t work out of the box and the auto update of snap packages has been ridiculously frustrating cause all my firefox tabs close and seem to be lost. Again, googling the issue gets a dozen different solutions and I don’t know what route to take. I only need an internet browser & word processor, ffs. I feel too stupid for Linux. I don’t even have kids or much of a time sucking job and I feel like learning this OS is too time-consuming. I’m probably getting a Mac for my next laptop and wish I didn’t feel like I have to.

    BURN,

    I’ve had a lot of similar experiences that just make me not want to use Linux on the desktop. There’s always something breaking, and if you like to tinker with your computer and don’t mind spending an afternoon fixing audio or Bluetooth or a monitor configuration it’s not too bad, but if you just want something that works Linux is definitely not it

    captainjaneway,
    @captainjaneway@lemmy.world avatar

    I have no idea how you’ve run into so many issues. People shit on Ubuntu here but I’ve always used it as a “Mac OS alternative” since the flavor feels similar. My wife uses it all the time and has very few issues. The only issue we run into is Bluetooth, but I have Bluetooth issues with every OS I’ve ever used: Android, MacOS, Windows, etc.

    4am,

    So, snap auto-updates don’t close your browser?

    captainjaneway,
    @captainjaneway@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve had no major issues with my Ubuntu distro. Snap updates work without closing any software - as far as I know. I just tested a snap refresh, but I didn’t have any out-of-date software.

    I would argue I push the boundaries of common Ubuntu usage as well. I have 8TB of mixed HDD and SSD storage which I use for gaming, Unity development, Blender, Plex server, and random programming projects (e.g. k8s cluster work). I don’t have any major issues.

    People complain a lot about Ubuntu and I just don’t get it. It’s a good software for the average consumer, in my opinion. My wife uses it for her computer and has pretty much no issues.

    I do want to switch to Linux Mint someday since people are adamant that it’s better than Ubuntu but I think I’ll stick with Ubuntu since I’ve setup so many things on this machine and I don’t want to redo this work.

    Tippon,

    I use Xubuntu on my media server, and have never had that happen. I get a notification saying that the Firefox snap is going to update in 14 days, but closing the browser, updating, and reopening brings all my tabs and windows back. I get the same if I close the browser and restart the computer, letting the snaps update automatically.

    I wonder if OP has got the restore open tabs setting turned off.

    Treczoks, in The most secure OS named windows

    The only secure Windows is Windows 1.0. There is no network stack in it, and nobody would want to use it anyway.

    Anything else is up for grabs.

    cupcakezealot,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    but i wanna play reversi

    WheatleyInc, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
    @WheatleyInc@lemmy.world avatar

    Not sure why the Linux community is convinced macOS is better than Windows. macOS has the same big issues Windows has (Spyware, ads, and the inability to delete the built in browser) while having worse issues like not supporting openGL/Vulkan, not allowing the user to install old apps, the inability to install hardware, and the small issue of only a select few Linux distros that work with it. Windows isn’t good, but it’s still better than macOS in most regards.

    deczzz,
    @deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    User experience is better on macOS vs Windows/gnu+linux newbie distros. Imho.

    AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    I bought a Mac laptop once and lasted about 3 months before running back to Linux. Mac OS may be great for some people, but it’s definitely not for everyone. It was also hell to pull my photos out of their damn software.

    The machine was ok though.

    some_guy,

    (Spyware, ads, and the inability to delete the built in browser)

    Ads for Apple services, yes. I don’t approve of that. But this is otherwise bullshit. I can delete any app I want. And I have to opt-in for Apple to get my crashlogs. And there aren’t ads for third-party bullshit.

    And Linux is even better. Both OSes are great by comparison. And good on their own. We will never have perfect software.

    flpasc,

    What about Apple Music, ever deleted that one ?

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