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zepheriths, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

Or have enough mon… My brother it’s free. Zero dollars.

PixxlMan,

I seriously can’t make sense of this meme… What is it trying to say? Why is the train smashing “Linux adoption”? It seems like this meme contradicts itself at every opportunity lol

Bondrewd, (edited )

The meme actually means what it states. That people have money to buy Windows. Most people earn enough to buy their own OS.

It is kind of a blindspot, you cant imagine a meme actually stating people having enough money on hand. And they do, most of them earn a living.

Yeah, the sentence could have been worded better.

Blackmist,

I think the mangled English there is suggesting that some people don’t care enough, and other people have enough money (to buy Windows).

Not that it matters because who the fuck pays for Windows anyway? OEMs do, but not normal people. Everything since like Windows 7 has been a free upgrade, and normies get a new PC more often than that so get a copy with it.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

and other people have enough money

Those usually buy apple stuff, so that’s probably who it tried to mention

cupcakezealot, in You have no power here
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

still has power if you email or share it to someone else after you downloaded it

thorbot, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

I tried to install Animorphs Action Game from an old CD I found from the 90s and it didn’t launch. This meme is a LIAR!

JeffKerman1999,

Even games that aren’t that old don’t run. Like fallout 3

johannesvanderwhales, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Anakin: “I’m going to install this 25 year old game”

Padme (smiling): “Install and run it, right?”

Anakin: smirk

Padme (frowning): “Install and run it, right?”

T00l_shed,

Run in cOmPaTiBiLtY mOdE.

BaardFigur,

Still crashing

T00l_shed,

Shocked, im shocked! Well not that shocked.

corsicanguppy, in Distros bad

In the army, when on sentry - no light, no noise, no fire - we’d open the pack of instant, swish it around with a mouthful of water, swallow through the regret. Not an LFS user, though.

laurelraven,

I’d say Knoppix for that. You’re not really doing this for your daily driver, you’re just dealing with an urgent need to get you through your current predicament

ichmagrum, (edited )

Man, you’d think they issue caffeine pills for those situations …

_dev_null,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

Air force prescribes amphetamines for pilots doing really long bomb runs, so there’s that.

qyron,

Shit. I can feel that and I was never in the army.

flop_leash_973, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Have you heard the good word about eMacs?

crispy_kilt,

Emacs is a nice operating system. It just needs a decent editor

mesamunefire, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

I remember when xp was not supported and…people kept using it. Security bugs and all. Most people don’t really think about the os, they think about the programs they are using.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Shout out to ReactOS, who aims to be 100% compatible with Windows stuff. Too bad that they’re only likely to get there by 2050 :(

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

But when you’ll be looking for XP compatibility in 2050, they’re going to be the only game in town.

SocialMediaRefugee, (edited ) in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

At my job we shut down a system with v4 of RHEL that had an uptime of a few years (we have generator power backups).

noxy,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

my worst day was a RHEL 4 server running COBOL for 911 going down because my idiot former boss didn’t RAID the system volume at all

thankfully I found a matching CentOS 4.4 image and made it work

pete_the_cat,

We have a Solaris 5 server with an uptime of over 5 years a few more were close to that.

m3t00, (edited )
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

replaced a $20,000 cd rack with 15 cd drives + windows os for network sharing, with a desktop PC running redhat(bureaucracy wanted a support contract). Ripped all their cds w/ dd bash script I wrote for automating add/delete cds for the non-cli types.

pete_the_cat, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Windows can’t even install its own old products! I remember back when I had to upgrade systems from XP to 7 and the users needed IE8 in able to use some internal websites. Microsoft was like “Fuck you, you can only use IE9 or above” there was literally no way to download IE8.

I also hate it when they only make shit available through the Windows Store or another convoluted process. No more downloading a simple EXE or MSI and double clicking it!

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wasn’t IE8 preinstalled on Windows 7? Wasn’t IE9 the only version of IE that wasn’t preinstalled on anything? I’m pretty sure someone (if not you) already downloaded IE9, in that case, I absolutely don’t know how to downgrade versions of IE.

pete_the_cat,

I don’t remember what version it was exactly, this was like a decade ago, but I just remember that I needed the previous version and couldn’t find anywhere to download it.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Still a shame

Ooops, in They caught us
@Ooops@kbin.social avatar

That's defintiely the wrong title.

No, it's not the user catching Linux in trying to pretend user friendliness witht the terminal.

It's Linux catching the user in still hating it when he gets the wanted user friendliness, for the sole reason of being conditioned to hate the terminal.

Honytawk,

If you are able to use those buttons in the terminal, it wouldn’t be a terminal.

turbowafflz,

What? The person you’re replying to doesn’t have the best argument in the world so I’m not exactly siding with them, but also a lot of terminals very much do support mouse input. I’m not sure which all ones it is, but I know the gnome terminal does and I’m pretty sure Konsole does as well. Obviously not every program you run in the terminal is going to support it but off the top of my head I remember vim does as well as I’m pretty sure dialog

ILikeBoobies,

How do people use Windows without CLI?

It’s way harder to GUI-only than Linux

otp,

Menus upon menus upon menus!

janus2,
@janus2@lemmy.zip avatar

deluding yourself that having to edit registry values and write scripts all the time is definitely interfacing 100% graphically

Mark132012,

I want to point and click.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Father, I can not click the terminal.

palordrolap,

Just put MOUSE.SYS in your CONFIG.SYS or run MOUSE.EXE from your AUTOEXEC.BAT

... wait, where am I again?

neonred,

Don’t forget loadhigh (lh) and his friend DEVICEHIGH and check with mem the memory layout if anything more can be sqeezed into some unused block lying around…

socsa,

When did these hallucinations first start?

joyjoy, in No tearing support discussions for me

When you’re asked if you prefer x11 or Wayland, but you like titties.

constantokra,

Tiv will handle that on the tty just fine.

TrenchcoatFullofBats,

“Fine” being (arguably) marginally better than attempting to decipher a scrambled cable channel that could be either the softcore channel or a travel documentary - either way, you’re looking at something that rhymes with “complicating crank”.

_cnt0, (edited ) in No tearing support discussions for me

I’m more of a fbdev guy.

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean… yeah? Its actually hardware accelerated too, and mpv can play videos directly on it

Kolanaki, in Distros bad
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I have a Keurig because I specifically do not drink coffee. I get apple cider, hot cocoa, teas, etc.

As for Linux I use Slack.

Nalivai, in They caught us

I really don’t like how “consumer-friendly” means “GUI that resembles Windows” in the minds of so many people.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Windows wasn’t first, Xerox was

Nalivai,

But no person on the planet, except the nerdiest of pedants, are thinking of Xerox when they see Windows interface. They think of Windows, even if it’s KDE

digger,
@digger@lemmy.ca avatar

Xerox did so much for modern computing. If only people knew.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

The company was run by morons so “Xerox” deserves being synonymous with “company run by morons”. But the actual Xerox employees who invented the basic GUI deserve credit for being the great inventors they were. Unfortunately I have no fucking idea who those actual people were.

digger,
@digger@lemmy.ca avatar

Take a look at this post. It covers some names and stories about contributions that make modern interfaces what they are today.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

Very cool, thanks.

cetvrti_magi,
@cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world avatar

For me Windows GUI is definition of not user friendly GUI.

Trollception,

Okay and what’s your definition of user friendly.

cetvrti_magi,
@cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world avatar

Anything that doesn’t make me feel like I have to fight with the GUI.

KeenFlame,

Yeah wow why don’t people like stuff like the compaq book and shit, it was damn impressive!

nfsu2,
@nfsu2@feddit.cl avatar

I tried Plasma, it was for only half an hour…

monkeyman512,

Gotta meet the customer where they are, not where you would like them to be. Most people don’t want to learn a new thing.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

You gotta meet the customer halfway until you get enough of them hooked, then slowly start introducing new ideas into their mental ecosystems that align with your vision.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Then add adverts into that ecosystem and center their program menu. Ooh! Then change their right menus! They’d love that! Or, maybe they won’t, but whatever.

palordrolap,

Well, it definitely works when shifting people politically.

Coming soon: Mockrosoft Overton Windows™

monsterpiece42,

I like the terminal but don’t remember all the arguments. I find that clunky. That’s my main issue with it. (I’m open to suggestions if anyone has any)

zalgotext,

Lots of terminal commands come with tab-completion out of the box (start typing a command, hit tab to autocomplete, hit tab twice to bring up a list of available options), or have tab completion scripts you can install after the fact.

Lacking tab completion, any worthwhile terminal commands will at least support a -h/–help flag that will print out a help menu summarizing the different options, or you can open up the man pages to see even more detailed documentation with man [whatever terminal command]. If the terminal command doesn’t have either of those, I’d recommend against using it.

Nalivai, (edited )

I highly recommend zsh. It takes a moment to setup initially, but you can use oh-my-zsh to just skip that part and use one of the many, many presets, and it supports plugins, of which there are many. It gives you tab support for so many popular commands, you will never need to remember them, and it has a lot of small improvements that makes your terminal life a breath. For example, if you do cd tab in bash, it will give you a list of subdirrectories. If you do the same in zsh, it will give you that list and a cursor that you can use to navigate said list, so instead of typing the dir, you can do cd tab tab tab enter

Based_and_Cool,

For someone that doesn’t like the cli, I’d recommend fish instead of that as it just works with no setup.

Nalivai, (edited )

I have very little experience with fish, but by my first experience zsh was way better at handling wildcard matching, and for me it’s half of the stuff I do. You are trying to open a file and all you remember is that it has some substring in the name probably, you just type some of it, double tab, and you have all the files that match. At the time I was trying it, fish couldn’t do it.

platypus_plumba,

I was just forced to Switch to Mac and let me tell you that I’m actually enjoying it.

Things I like so far:

  • An actual modern email client that isn’t web based. Web mail clients feel so cumbersome.
  • Same thing for a calendar application.
  • Nice reminders app out of the box. Can schedule alarms on reminders and categorize them.
  • Nice notes app that I don’t need to constantly save. It never closes, which feels great compared to Gedit.
  • Security. Apps notify me when they want to access system resources and I have to authorize them.
  • Unix. Unix matters a lot.
  • Homebrew has incredible support. I can install almost anything with it.
  • Iterm2 feels almost like Terminator.

Things I hate:

  • The fact that they have another keyboard layout. Although, after 3 days I’m getting used.
  • Updates take forever, it’s insane.
  • Can’t easily switch back and forth (not cycle) between windows of same apps. Haven’t figured this one out.
  • Docker runs in a VM, it sucks.
  • Can’t get used to multiple desktops. I hate them.

Honestly, it isn’t as bad as Windows. As long as I have a terminal and a nice shell, I’m good.

Octopus1348,

I use macOS as my daily driver, though still use Linux sometimes. When I dual-booted macOS with Linux, I immediately fell in love. I don’t have a Mac, but my next computer will be a MacBook. Of course there are things I don’t like, but I will not write it down right now, maybe edit this comment later. I love the virtual desktops tough, I always press the green button on Safari to maximize, and put it on a new desktop, so I can easily switch with a 4-finger swipe, and I don’t have to overlay another window or Safari when I am switching apps.

vsh, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

How is BSD better than Linux or MacOS?

pete_the_cat,

The BSDs are still FOSS unlike OS X, OS X was derived from FreeBSD. I definitely wouldn’t say that the BSDs are better than Linux though.

vsh, (edited )
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Just because it’s Foss doesn’t mean it’s instantly better. My rule of thumb is to treat BSD like a trial version of Linux. It never failed.

pete_the_cat,

Of course being FOSS doesn’t inherently make it better, but that’s usually the case.

AntEater,
@AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’ve administered BSD servers professionally and I have to say that it was one of the nicest, most consistent, operating systems I’ve worked with. I’ve worked with Linux since the mid-90s and done more than my fair share of Windows Server/AD admin. and I would gladly manage a room full of BSD hosts again.

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