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vynlwombat, in Bye bye edge

I’m not really concerned about getting more people to use Linux. Am I the only one?

JGrffn,

I feel like I don’t really care what my peers use, or what people in general use, but the more adoption linux desktop gets, the more people getting involved in community projects there are, as well as more bug reports and the like, so the sooner things get improved upon and the better they become.

mexicancartel,

Also more about being mainstream. I’m being forced to use proprietary centralised locked down platforms because others demand it. Free software going mainstream is one of my aims

sederx,

platforms because others demand it.

like?

mexicancartel,

Whatsapp, google meet, gmail, google classroom…

sederx,

But all of those have web versions no?

mexicancartel,
  1. That doesnt matter. I want softeare freedom and not just to barely run on linux. Forcing proprietary platforms ate ridiculus.
  2. I am using a mobile phone
anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I have people asking me to help them install linux all the time. I am glad, in theory, but sad, in the practicality of having to work for free on my spare time.

noproblemmy,

I care because by not using linux there is money going to microsoft or apple hands, which are not very friendly to user rights.

Flumsy,

Well, more people on Linux means more software support.

sederx,

we already have all the free software, im not missing adobe bullshit or other proprietary crap.

Flumsy,

More people using free software means more resources going into them, maybe industry-wide adoption. Would it not be awesome to have ODP be the standard file format for a document (because enough people use Linux to make an open standard necessary)? Interoperability will be a big thing if enough people start using Linux.

sederx,

I mean personally I’m not missing anything so I don’t see the benefits.

sederx,

i used to care, now i dont give a flying fuck.

if people are too stupid to use a superior and free system, fuck em.

vynlwombat,

Haha well, that’s one way to think about it I guess.

skygirl,

As a person who cares about the gaming ecosystem, I think it would be really healthy for Microsoft to not have full market dominance.

They’re busy making studio acquisitions which are gradually centralizing the market, which could become very problematic if they start taking anticompetitive approaches to distribution.

More people on Linux means more pressure for software availability on Linux, and if people can just move over relatively easily that prevents Microsoft from going full corpo-digital-prison-hellscape.

JCreazy, in Bye bye edge

It’s going to be one of those things where someone is either going to switch to Linux or they’re not. Most people will take convenience over privacy.

PopOfAfrica,

Honestly, Windows isn’t even that much more convenient. It’s just what people are used to.

Now that I’m used to Linux Windows makes me pull my hair out.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly

Holzkohlen,

Even just creating a functioning bootable usb stick with windows is a pain. Why are those stupid windows iso so damn picky?

Speiser0,

Since when does microsoft windows have good privacy?

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You misread OP’s comment

Speiser0,

Oh, you’re right. I’m seeing now they were referring to the short term inconvenience of installing an OS, and not comparing windows and linux distros.

wookiepedia, in Text editor war

EMACS is a great operating system, it only lacks a good editor.

optimal,
@optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Vim lacks anything good, except maybe the keybindings.

PopShark,

They hated him because he spoke the truth

milicent_bystandr,

eVil mode. It’s next on my TODO list to try, so I can go back to Emacs’ fantastic Haskell mode without knackering my left pinkie.

lanolinoil,
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

just learn a little elisp and remap to control to a sewing machine pedal :P

howardism.org/Technical/…/kinesis-footpedal.html

milicent_bystandr,

Maybe with facial-recognition-mode I can get it to map a grunty squint to ctrl.

lanolinoil, (edited )
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

I think someone did that with the old Microsoft ir gaming bar thing E: kinect

cows_are_underrated,

Why not eVim?

milicent_bystandr,

Just that I already know Emacs’ Haskell mode is great. If I get back into Haskelling I suppose I should look around options.

lanolinoil, (edited )
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

I love this

centopus, in Foolishness
@centopus@kbin.social avatar

If its freshly installed, you still remember how to do it again... 15 minutes and its installed again.

Bipta,

Worse is managing to type your password and confirm password identically incorrectly. It takes the same 15 minutes, but also 15 minutes of not being able to believe it.

Based on a true story.

Flumsy,

True. After 10 I decided I had enough and rebooted.

user224, in interview on the frontier
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I haven’t updated my Manjaro install for past 2 months. Things are going to be crazy.

olutukko,

That’s how I broke my manjaro on 2 PCs at once :D now I’m going to update my fedora for the first time in like 3 months and see what happens

deliriousn0mad,

I broke it the same way years ago! And now I haven’t updated openSUSE Tumbleweed in 4 months and I know I won’t have any issues when I do, there’s no rush!

prunerye,

I haven’t updated my Arch install for almost 2 months. Things are going to be… seemless, probably. I do this all the time. It never breaks.

devfuuu,

The worst I did, a computer without turning it on and not being updated for 2 years. Long long ago. I think I even got a huge change, don’t remember if it was a big kernel version or the change to systemd. It basically just worked and there was a single thing I had to do that was in the news page.

Arch works fine for those who know how to read.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I just updated. No issues this time. I just had to re-compile dump1090 and WSJT-X, but that’s expected. Dependencies.

richardisaguy, (edited )
@richardisaguy@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t updated my manjaro install for 35 seconds. Things are going to be crazy.

./s

platypus_plumba,

It’s crazy hearing all the Windows hate but then hearing this.

This is why I prefer friendly and stable distros, I don’t have time to fix Linux every month.

poinck,

I haven’t updated my Gebtoo install for past 6 months. Things are going to take a bit longer then usual.

But since there are binaries available now, it may go faster.

NOPper,

I keep meaning to set up timemachine but just roll the dice every few weeks. I think it bit me once and it was only for the weirdo wifi driver I needed and installed the lazy way.

The blog is probably smart to check if you see anything weird in pamac but otherwise I’ve either been very lucky or things have been pretty stable.

cmgvd3lw, (edited ) in AMA

Was linux created by linus tech tips?

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

No it was created by his good twin Linux tech tips

Steamymoomilk,

this weeks episode is why you should compile everything from source

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Because… what sane person doesn’t…

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Who waits for family reunion?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes… most probably.

acockworkorange,

Linux sex tips

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar
chiliedogg, (edited ) in This truly is the year of the linux desktop

Is it that Linux is getting popular, or that most people don’t buy new computers anymore now that their phone does everything they used it for, so it’s only the enthusiasts still buying?

themoken,

That’s an interesting thought. I’ve wondered this about Chrome’s market share in browsers too. How much of it is just that so much traffic is now from phones where, even if you have another browser installed, apps open links in embedded Chrome web views.

BarbecueCowboy, in Name em

Having maintained Linux systems for over a decade, I instantly distrust anyone who claims they understand Linux regardless of what they say next.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I have 20 years of Linux experience. I tell people ‘I know a few things.’

Would never say I know everything or understand everything though.

Just like an xkcd comic I expect to see someone reply that has 30 years experience or something.

Johanno,

I recently tried to compile an Raspberry pi image. I have no idea what to do when an error occurs. And I am a software developer who should at least have an idea. However goggle helps

interceder270, in Linus does not fuck around

I miss when people had higher standards.

Zacryon,

Linus Torvalds had anger issues right from the beginning. At least he got to a point where he is sorry and wants to work on his behaviour.

newyorker.com/…/after-years-of-abusive-e-mails-th…

dirtySourdough,

Jesus Christ, telling someone to kill themselves is so beyond just professional considerations – it is basic human decency to refrain from saying such things. I hope he continues to work on his behavior and finds a more productive way to interact with human beings.

westyvw, (edited ) in Accurate?

Ubuntu has caused me far more headaches and downtime than Arch. Go figure.

And to make this be a worthwhile comment: I wonder if it is because I use Arch (and derivatives) that Ubuntu causes issues. When something isn’t right, I try and fix it. In Arch I can. In Ubuntu it seems like a dozen paper cuts to get there and it may not work in the long run anyway. Oh the Snap doesnt have foo compiled in? No problem I can add it to the snap directory. No, that didnt work. Ok I will remove it and bring in a .deb file. Dependencies not met. Fine, I will compile it from source… and by that time I have wasted a TON of time.

molochthagod,

Worth noting, this meme is from the time before Arch had an easy installer. So that’s probably what it’s referring to. I joined Linux almost 4 years ago, and this meme already existed then. I dunno how old it really is.

thetreesaysbark,

This sounds like my Ubuntu xp as well. Although I haven’t had the arch xp to compare it against which makes me slightly hesitant to jump in.

I’m pretty tempted to revamp my old laptop to arch though. Just needs funds for enough personal storage first.

FrostyCaveman,

I totally get that

reminds me of what happens when developing software and using “no code” tools. Fragile and inflexible but if you meet the exact use case in the exact way it’s an instant win

linearchaos, (edited )
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Oh god yeah that’s the fate of snap and flat pack.

Install OBS studio, current version has some issues oh look there’s a flat pack install the flat pack instead. OBS runs great. Oh, I need some plugins Go to install the plugins, The plugins folder isn’t where it belongs. I scrape along and find the plugins folder I try to shove them in there doesn’t work. Oh I need to find the flat pack installer for the plugin… But half the s*** I want isn’t available.

I truly appreciate them trying to make things more universal and easier. But it’s a fine line we’re walking between easy but unconfigurable and non-standard complicated but flexible.

onlinepersona, (edited ) in It's OK if you cry

Lemmy needs polls. The last time I had problems with WIFI drivers was… 15 years ago? On a laptop bought in a supermarket that originally came with Windows Vista. Oh, and the raspberry pi - fuck raspberry pis. They can’t pick wifi module worth shit.

Honytawk,

Welcome to 90% of all the anti-Windows arguments made on here by Linux users.

onlinepersona, (edited )

I’m not sure I follow… are you saying Linux users judge windows by very old problems?

Johanno,

I mean it isn’t Linux fault, but I wanted to install balenaos on my RaspberryPi and they don’t support a WiFi chip in their kernel. Without WiFi the whole idea won’t work for me. And I don’t want to buy a new WiFi usb only because they don’t want to add the drivers.

My attempts to add it to the kernel and build it myself failed so far.

onlinepersona,

I’m not faulting linux, I’m faulting the Raspberry Pi Foundation. Linux is their main operating system and they haven’t picked a good WIFI hardware module for years. Dunno if the new raspberrypi 4 is better, but I’m not paying to find out.

linuxdweeb, (edited )

All single board computers have driver problems because they require custom kernel forks that can’t or don’t get mainlined for whatever reason (usually laziness), but Raspberry PI is actually the best when it comes to that stuff.

So when you buy an SBC, you need to ask yourself: will the company continue to develop/update/patch their custom kernel fork now that they shipped? Or will they just abandon it and move on to the next product? 9 times out of 9.01, it’s the latter.

Johanno,

I am running a pi 1. No WiFi included. The usb I have worked for everything so far

onlinepersona,

That’s the only thing that worked for me too. The inbuilt WiFi is useless.

Johanno,

On pi 4 with raspbian no issues. Didn’t try a different os on that yet

LufyCZ,

Quick correction, the Pi5 is the new one

onlinepersona,

Thanks. I’m out of the loop.

0x4E4F,

Try Void, maybe it has the adequate firmware binary blobs… worth a try 🤷.

Sowhatever,

Raspberry, seriously? What problems are you seeing?

I have a raspberry pi 3 acting as a 5GHz access point for as long as it’s been on the market, I can remember one time I had to restart it because of some wonkiness. About a dozen others as clients, never had an issue there either, fast and stable enough.

All using the default os (raspbian first, raspberry os later).

onlinepersona,

I’ve had 3 raspberry pis (1,2,3) and none have had stable WiFi. After an hour or two it would drop and the logs would get spammed with some error that I can’t remember. Might be this issue wlan freezes in raspberry pi 3/PiZeroW (Not 3B+) . Similar issue Every two hours, like clockwork: “wpa_supplicant[313]: nl80211: kernel reports: key addition failed”.

After that, I gave up on WiFi on Raspberries and used LAN, but they are so underpowered… my nextcloud instance took ages to do anything, XBMC (now Kodi) was slow and couldn’t render videos > 720p (it was struggling with 720p honestly), even a simple audio proxy over bluetooth (forward bluetooth audio from phone to speaker) barely functioned as the bluetooth cut out or it was janky as hell.

It’s easier to put a old phone as a server than a raspberrypi.

Sowhatever,

Might be some AP incompatibility maybe, I’ve never seen those.

XBMC didn’t have drivers for video acceleration, but the raspberry pi 1 was able to play 1080p flawlessly if you used omxplayer.

Now kodi has the drivers included and the 4 can even play 4k up to certain bit rate.

The new ones are too expensive tho, a used NUC is a much better deal.

onlinepersona,

Might be some AP incompatibility maybe, I’ve never seen those.

Lucky you. Tried 4 different routers --> same issue.

I gave up on RasPis long ago.

0x4E4F,

There are some oddball cards out there that need the linux firmware xxx (insert manufacturer instead of xxx) binary blobs in order to work, but yes, those cards are rare nowadays and mostly older hardware uses that (as you mentioned, hardware from 10+ years ago).

victorz,

Had problems about 3 years ago, got a new laptop from work and the WiFi hardware was too new and didn’t have support in the kernel yet. Took a year or something, maybe less, until it worked.

onlinepersona,

For new hardware, it’s no surprise when it doesn’t work out of the box as most drivers are written for windows first. That’s not a fault of linux.

victorz,

Yep, just saying I had problems.

aard, in Debian being insanely stable
@aard@kyu.de avatar

There’s the old saying that Debian is available in three flavours: Stale, rusting and broken.

BlueBockser,

broken saying

FTFY

possiblylinux127,

All of which are quite stable.

Phrodo_00,

Stable in the distro context refers to how often packages change. Sid (which is the one that’s broken in that) is not that. The other 2 are stable in that sense, but older software can sometimes be shaky on newer hardware.

bleistift2, (edited ) in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

My package manager has 400+ updates, but I can’t install them because some packages are conflicting, and I don’t have the willpower to untangle that mess.

I use arch btw. I use the arch-derivative Manjaro, btw.

Severalkittens,

I ran into this on Manjaro today too. Definitely don’t have the capacity to sort it right now

bleistift2,

Yay, I’m not alone. :'D

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

have a manjaro desktop (with cinnamon) at the office that gets used daily. haven't seen this here.

bleistift2,

The issue probably depends heavily on the installed software and might surface for some while others don’t have it.

Severalkittens,

It looks like it’s a bunch of conflicts with kde stuff

breakcore,

Same - it is probably why I will change soon. Manjaro has been a bit too flaky I think. Still nice, but annoying with things like this.

Holzkohlen,

Join us in glorious GarudaLinux land. I swear they don’t pay me to shill this distro every other day.

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

First time?

jdk-openjdk vs jre-openjdk? archlinux.org mentions it, although the workaround it provides is fake news and also results in pacman complaining about conflicts.

I just removed stuff, abused pacman --nodeps and prayed that my backups would be sufficient to restore my inevitable fuckup (no fuckup happened, somehow). Try that at your own risk though…

bleistift2, (edited )

I think I’ll just switch to something more user-friendly again. When I installed Manjaro, I thought I liked tinkering. But since then I’ve started working and just want to get home to a functioning computer.

I appreciate the effort, though.

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Arch and Manjaro tend to have that effect on people, it’s understandable

amanneedsamaid,

I feel this, Fedora filled the gap for me. I needed more current software, but if that isn’t a priority Debian is amazing.

SexualPolytope, (edited )
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Manjaro nowadays has become a hassle. It used to be really solid around 5-6 years ago. I had it for 3+ years. Then it started breaking a lot. I switched to EndeavourOS 1.5 years ago, been solid since. The jre/jdk issue was pretty painless to deal with as well.

bleistift2,

The jre/jdk issue was pretty painless to deal with as well.

What’s driving me away is that I have to deal with it at all. The command just fails and leaves you to google the solution. That’s annoying and unnecessary.

I know now that Manjaro isn’t the OS for me if I’m not willing to do that.

pascal,

If you like to tinker but still have some consistency, I’d suggest gentoo. It’s been really solid for the last 16 years for me.

aniki,

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    @Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    It says to use pacman -Syu jdk-openjdk to automatically remove jre-openjdk, which didn’t happen

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  • Sonotsugipaa,
    @Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I’ve solved that problem days ago, I’m more afraid of XDG Portals than Arch Linux being Arch Linux

    yanyuan,

    Just join the kubuntu gang. Maybe you’ll lose your pride and self-respect, but it’s a simple life.

    Sonotsugipaa, (edited )
    @Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I don’t want the easy life, if I wanted the easy life I would have bought a macbook for programming and kept Windows with default settings for gaming.

    Besides, Kubuntu was my first AND third distro.

    … and I have no self respect whatsoever. Nor pride.

    nogrub, (edited )

    i just updated jdk-openjdk by it self then did the system update and it worked (endevaros/i3)

    Crashumbc, (edited ) in Linux community throught history

    Linux users are famous for e-peen measuring and tearing each other down.

    cyberpunk007,

    We destroy ourselves. Lol

    0x4E4F,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yes, but that also kind of drives us to be better at it 🤔… kinda…

    Still, I do agree, a dose of it is OK, but constantly, no.

    Reddfugee42,

    “BE BETTER AT HAVING DIFFERENT SUBJECTIVE PREFERENCES” - some Linux guy probably

    Steamymoomilk, (edited ) in Linux users when

    no, no, no its too easy, Wheres the terminals? and the long compile time.

    (this post was written partially from and intel compute stick running gentoo, which started compiling 7hours ago and still is) https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/f1e74bd4-ede0-401a-815c-33c20441feb6.png

    mmmm tasty 2GB of ram

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Set EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=“-a” in make.conf and never bother writing --ask again

    Steamymoomilk,

    I will half to do that thanks for the tip!!

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    You can shorten this list of flags to -DuN. For comedic effect you can run emerge -DuN -DuN -DuuuN @world

    mrchampion,

    Dear god, just yesterday I had to wait pretty much an entire day just for ungoogled-chromium to compile, and I have 8 cores with 16GB of ram. I can’t imagine having to do that with just 2GB of ram with 4 cores.

    nightwatch_admin,

    Noob. Back in my day, I needed 7 (seven) days to compile my custom kernel (1.x without RLL and MFM support) and when I booted it, it often panic’d lol.

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