Hiro8811,

I’m to lazy to do my homework. Can anyone explain what’s wrong with Ubuntu?

neonred, (edited )

Ubuntu is a product of Canonical which are a pretty evil corporation and a submarine of Microsoft. What they don’t leech off Debian is proprietay and lock-in.

Hiro8811,

I’ll look into it. Thanks for the heads-up

MalReynolds,
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

remember, do not feed the trolls… That said, snaps suck vs flatpak or appimage.

dejected_warp_core, (edited )

As a commercial OS, it’s fine. LTS releases, great headless experience, and dependency graph that is progressive but not as frozen in time as RedHat.

As an end-user OS, the dizzying number of ways to get usable apps into the GUI cut deep against advanced users. Especially when advanced use cases smash into incompatibilities and easy-to-make mistakes that break stuff. But if you’re willing to rock a lot of defaults and just slap things together from the package manager, it works okay.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Not too deep in that conversation but afaik it’s a series of choices that just continuously make Ubuntu less usable.

from what I “know” it seems to be mostly:

  • the baffling decision to keep riding the dead Snap train instead of the now widespread Flatpak one.
  • some drama around them switching from Gnome 2 -> Own Desktop -> Gnome 3 and related decisions, not sure what the problems there were but apparently a lot of people didn’t like it.
  • some stuff about telemetry, not sure how relevant this is currently but I heard some people complain about it.

Again, not really sure that’s it but it’s what I recall hearing here and there.

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

and they’re using gnome 40+ now, but gnome 40 is actually great, unlike gnome 3

Hiro8811,

What distro would you suggest? I abandoned windows 10 for Ubuntu but it didn’t grew on me. I know Linux Mint is friendlier but I thought giving Ubuntu a try

neonred,

Chris Titus Tech - The Linux Tier List

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyADkmRVe0U

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Depends on your use case honestly. Do you play a lot of games? If so I would recommend against stable distros like Mint. Without knowing more I’d probably say:

  • Mostly Browsing or Work in Office Editors: Linux Mint or Kubuntu since Updates are stable and generally don’t break anything.
  • A lot of gaming: Arch via Archinstall or ArcoLinux (ArcoLinux is imo a bit more confusing while getting the image file, after it is superior to ArchInstall for newbies because the installer is a bit more familiar) since you’ll benefit from a shortened update cycle. The drawback here is that occasionally (or often depending on what you install) updates break things.

Edit: Also a general recommendation: Stick to Windows-like Desktops for the beginning, these are (to my knowledge) XFCE and more prominently KDE Plasma. It will save you the additional task of getting used to your desktop environment while you get familiar with how Linux “works” as your main OS.

Hiro8811, (edited )

I played around with Kali(I know I know) and raspberry pi for a bit and I got the hang of it a bit. Think I’ll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming. Thank you for your time.

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Think I’ll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming

Nothing exactly wrong with that but I don’t think you’ll need the extra layer of separation. Most Apps on Mint should be available Arch as well and run generally as Bug free as on Mint (Edit: a “graphical” representation of what level of Bugginess you can expect: Many Bugs > Some Bugs > Few Bugs > Windows 10 (personal experience) > Arch Linux > Almost no Bugs > Linux Mint > No Bugs). Not splitting the OS would save you some hassle (for example after school work is done you can start gaming faster as well as simpler disk partitioning) on the other hand depending on yourself it might offer advantages (can’t get as easily distracted from schoolwork with games if you have to reboot the PC for it)

Hiro8811,

I know that you apps are available across distributions but I wanted to use a stable distro for school that I trust not to brake and another one where I can experience and customize without worrying to much about breaking it.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

as I said nothing wrong with it, just wanted to add some info in case the decision was made based on some misunderstanding. If you think that’s the best fit for you go for it

Hiro8811,

I’m not yet sure but I’ll try them out. Thank you for taking the time

neonred,

Debian sid is just as fresh and a (nearly) rolling release distribution. I game on it with Wine, Cyperpunk, X4, Baldur’s Gate and others are no problem.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Didn’t know about that, would go into the same category as Arch then.

zacher_glachl,

Arch user should be an aeropress: people can’t seem to shut the hell up about how great it supposedly is

Pantherina,

I think it is pretty great tbh, just havent tried it yet as it is very manual

Prunebutt,

Just pretend it’s a V60.

I brew with a V60, btw.

TheGrandNagus,

I don’t know shit about coffee, so I’m assuming you mean you make your coffee with a mid-size Volvo estate car. Pretty impressive.

Prunebutt,

Most people can’t appreciate the faint aroma of gasoline. ☕

manwichmakesameal,

As a Volvo fan, that was my first thought too.

prettybunnys, (edited )

V60 user here.

MBP user tho

ccdfa,

V60 user here

On arch btw

andrew,

I use areopress btw

cm0002,

It’s aeropress, did you even read the wiki???

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I use areolapress btw ouch

OKRainbowKid,

I use both Aeropress and an arch based distro, btw.

SexualPolytope, (edited )
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Lol. Checks out for me. Have an Aeropress, and use Arch (btw). I also have an espresso machine though, but never really touched Gentoo.

Amaltheamannen,

I have an aeropress and run arch haha

badbytes,

I use Arch, and let me tell you it’s great.

dalekcaan,

I have an aeropress. I have yet to take the time to figure out how to use my aeropress.

barsoap,

Well it says 80C water up to IIRC the first line but are you really sure about that? Also what about your grind settings?

gondezee,

I refuse to accept the 80c recommendation from the manual

Cowbee,

100c water, 12g coffee per 200g water, pour 50g water into press then wait 30sec, stir, add the rest, add the press so the water doesnt flow, wait 2 more minutes then press down until hiss.

Easy peasy.

laurelraven,

Stopping when you hear the hiss is important, if you don’t you’ll press the bitter nasty part into your coffee

barsoap,

That’s a myth watch some James Hoffmann.

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@lemmy.world avatar

The true arch experience.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,
dejected_warp_core, (edited )

The moka pot design is small, efficient, and doesn’t scale. So some flavor of embedded distro?

ichmagrum,

It scales great actually. Have you never seen one of those mini pots that only make enough for one small cup?

spark947,

I use a Kerrigan, but I’m a debian guy.

Pantherina,

True. Very classy, kinda annoying and also fancy. Kinda complex but simple concept behind it.

You have to repeatedly clean up the mess but its also rather easy to shake out. So semi automatic updates.

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Couldn’t really make it work for me, gas stove and a moka pot seems too finicky. So I just do pourover

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

I did use it on a gas stove (brought it with me when was on vacations at my parents lol) and totally works

I think yours specifically might have a design issue

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

I doubt it. The moka pot in general is finicky. Unless you put milk or something into the coffee I find it rather harsh and I don’t like milk in coffee.

This is 100 % a matter of technique, I can make a good cup of coffee with it. I just need to dial in grind and ratios right, but even then it’s hard to control the temperature. By the time I go to that sputering hissy phase it becomes harsh and very bitter.

In general it’s hard for me to find the sweet spot between battery acid and coal juice with a moka pot. Pourover is much more forgiving and consistent.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

Huh! we definitely don’t have the same taste, as I only ever drink coffee with milk, and as such i don’t care much about the exact taste that comes out of moka pot

Thanks for you feedback!

jozep,

That’s because you’re clearly a BSD user

ring_raitch,

This

GardeningSadhu,

bam! this is what i came here for. love my mokapot!

Dagwood222,

I feel like an idiot for taking so long to get one. After i brought it, a friend regifted me a milk frother. Zap the milk for 30 seconds and whip and you’ve got a barista drink at home.

acockworkorange,

The Ol’ reliable. Takes a bit of work, but the result is great. Debian stable.

AntEater,
@AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Slackware: Start by planting your own coffee plants…

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Gentoo: do you want to use soil?

laurelraven,

Nah, that’s LFS

KISSmyOS, (edited )

What? Slackware has a menu-driven installer that sets up a usable system out of the box that comes with all the bells and whistles.
Just don’t try to change anything.

Oh, and the bells and whistles are powered by a steam engine, so you better know your way around ancient tech to use them.

devilish666,

Every linux distro are best except ubuntu & manjaro
CHANGE MY MIND

Wes_Dev,

I buy canned coffee… What distro is that?

sirico, (edited )
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Vanilla os everything is individual containers

Creatortray,

Linux mint.

odama626,

Windows

Aggravationstation,

Puppy live USB

ale,

Mac os

Wes_Dev,

(dramatic gasp)

You take that back!

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

linux mint?

rustydomino,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

Linux Mint is instant Nescafe - pour in hot water and it Just Works. It doesn’t necessarily taste the best but it gets the job done.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

and do you have anything for rocky linux?

laurelraven,

Aeropress: people swear it’s just like espresso but it’s definitely a little different

palordrolap, (edited )

Instant, sure, OK, but pick a slightly less evil brand. I'd say Kenco maybe, but that doesn't seem to be as well known outside Britain. Maybe Folgers for the North Americans.

rustydomino,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

Point taken lol

cmhe,

Linux Mint Debian Edition or Ubuntu Edition?

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

???

cmhe,

The ordinary Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu and there is also LMDE, which is Linux Mint based on Debian: www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

Pantherina,

Cocoa maker

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

I do it the Arch way. I don’t use Arch, btw

Abnorc,

I started with aeropress, but I somehow get more flavorful coffee when I do a pour over. I’m not sure how that happens since I’ve been hearing that it is easier to get good extraction with immersion brewing, but I just keep on doing whatever works best for the most part.

dukatos,

Where is the french press?

s_s,
@s_s@lemmy.one avatar

BaggetteLinux

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar
aniki,

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  • SexualPolytope, (edited )
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    It’s very easy to clean and travel with, though. But yeah, it’s very close. Especially if you use a metallic mesh.

    Kusimulkku,

    Indeed

    barsoap,

    Not even close. French presses are way larger, holding a can instead of a mug, generally glass, and are pure immersion brewers while aeropresses are immersion/infusion hybrids, giving you way more options. The grind sizes you use are also vastly different: French press grind is coarse to survive the long immersion, while people generally grind for aeropress in between filter coffee and espresso fineness – roughly what supermarkets sell as espresso fine (which it isn’t, espresso fine grind is basically the consistency of talcum powder and spoils within minutes).

    And while it wouldn’t be right to claim that you can use them to make actual espresso you can use them to make concentrates that come darn close, definitely appropriate for a cappuccino, or tiramisu. You really don’t want to make concentrates with immersion.

    Oh and by default aeropresses use paper filters, while French presses use sieves. Preferences differ but as you can get sieves for the aeropress again you have more options.

    In short, it’s the brewer for someone who cares about coffee, probably has a (hand) grinder (and a mere chestnut at that), avoids buying any supermarket coffee and knows a source of proper but non-fancy beans, but doesn’t really want to go full nerd about it. Also, isn’t a hipster paying through their nose to get a Hario filter holder and papers in a Melitta region (or the opposite), or gets a ceramic filter holder which only means you have to heat it up… no upsides. Speaking of nerds.

    In even shorter, it’s at a very very solid performance vs. fuss sweetspot. At least if you’re making a mug of coffee, if you need to supply a table full of guests… honestly if I had to do it right now I’d throw grinds and water into a pot, wait a bit, then filter the whole thing through an ordinary kitchen sieve followed by an ordinary paper filter holder, and hope for the best.

    aniki,

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  • barsoap,

    Tea is way more complicated. Wanna hear about my Yixing pot?

    tiredcapillary,

    Which distro uses a French press?

    wavebeam,
    @wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

    Big aeropress fan. Where’s the Linux equivalent of that?

    outcide,
    @outcide@lemmy.world avatar

    I reckon Alpine. Nice and minimal …

    barsoap,

    Judging by what I use, NixOS.

    cypherpunks,
    @cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

    see my other comment in this thread…

    Kimjongtooill,

    You know, Arch feels more like aeropress than a pourover.

    FaeDrifter,

    Voidlinux

    Nobody else can tell that the end product is any different, but you know you’re different and special and that’s what matters.

    _cnt0,
    @_cnt0@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Nobody else can tell that the end product is any different, but you know you’re different and special and that’s what matters.

    Say you have never used a french press without saying you’ve never used a french press.

    FaeDrifter,

    French press is the only way I have to make coffee at home, and I make one every day.

    It’s called humor, it’s not supposed to be taken literally.

    _cnt0,
    @_cnt0@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Humwhat?

    Mo5560,

    Funny, I would have said the same about voidlinux.

    I think a common misconception about voidlinux is that it’s a distro solely used by people who have made it their lifegoal to tell people about how bad systemd is. I use void because it’s fast, and frankly because I like the way void does stuff. I feel like many people in the community are much more indifferent to systemd than people realize.

    tdawg,

    How dare you. Everyone that I force to try my coffee says it’s amazing!

    Successful_Try543,

    Its at least different.

    pewgar_seemsimandroid,

    rocky linux: handmade preconfigured but changeable

    jwt, (edited )

    the Rocky Linux picture should show:
    being forced to use the filter drip coffee because Red Hat poisoned the ‘looks pretty cool’ coffee method.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    I dont drink coffeee… What distro am I?

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    Apple if you drink energy drinks, Windows if you drink tea.

    FreeBSD if you don’t drink caffeine.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    I don’t drink energy drinks, or tea, and I do occasionally drink caffeine, just not coffee.

    RGB3x3,

    Then you must be iOS only.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    I don’t think I’ve ever even touched an apple device… not at least since Apple IIs in school.

    HessiaNerd,

    I would have thought Apple if you exclusively get your coffee from Starbucks.

    Mt Dew for Windows

    Pantherina,

    Void Linux

    Fedizen,

    linux mint, its just a pitcher filled with whatever you do drink, dont ask me how it got in the pitcher

    oldfart,

    Devuan.

    BilliamBoberts,

    I make overnight coldbrew in a mason jar. What distro is that?

    joel_feila,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    Suse

    laurelraven,

    Slackware

    oldfart,

    Hannah Montana Linux

    wavebeam,
    @wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

    All I’m getting from this is that arch is easier than I expected and will give me a much better end result than the distros I’m used to.

    Pantherina,

    It is very manual though. For rolling release BTRFS snapshots like on Fedora and Opensuse Tumbleweed are a total must.

    FuglyDuck, (edited )
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    I suppose this depends entirely on your expectations?

    DrRatso,

    Absolutely yes to the first part, just use archinstall. The second is in large part up to you, but pacman + AUR are amazing.

    Acters,

    Yeah, this is the way, doing it manually is fun and all but its highly unnecessary extra effort as there are very little reasons as all of it is just configuration of the system. Archinstall is just the Text-GUI version that still offers the customize ability of the install. Heck you can load a configuration file that you can make before hand so that you don’t need to babysit the installation and can reproduce it in other systems/PCs.

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