I remember having a conversation with a coworker who was getting into Linux when Kali was a big deal for script kiddies. He told me he installed it and I was like “dude you want it to be a read only OS, don’t install it. Just boot to it from a CD or USB.” We went back and forth on that for weeks until I just gave up and labeled him an idiot in my mind.
I put it on a dual boot laptop once because the laptop was to shitty to run to a proper VM and I wanted to get updates at a few different points in time. Intel Core 2 Dou and Windows XP as the other OS. It was more of a project laptop than a daily driver though.
Was windows XP the current windows generation or did you pick it for some other reason? I assume it’ll run easier on weak hardware, and until just now never thought about putting it on my laptop as a dual boot for those moments you actually need windows.
I’ve had this conversation with lots of first time Linux users. They think that Kali is the most hardcore hacker OS and that’s what they need to run for a introduction to security course.
When I was a kid I installed it and was like “hooHOO, me hacker”, so there are silly things like that.
Nevermind me being too intimidated by CLI to do anything in Linux at the time lmfao.
It’s been a while since I’ve thought about it, so what are the reasons why it’s a bad daily driver? I assume there’s poor support for drivers, hardware, etc.?
Or is it when you do pen testing you don’t want to leave traces of yourself? I’m not a cybersecurity guy, so I genuinely don’t know.
Hasn’t been the case anymore for quite some time, even though I think it has quite generous sudo rules. But yes, it’s not meant to be your main OS but instead more like a toolbox you use in liveboot/VM/etc.
I made the switch to daily driving Linux on my laptop for work and play a few months back with a dual boot setup with Windows, and changed over mine and my partner's gaming desktops to do the same, and they recently got a Steam Deck OLED as well. Honestly I can't say this is true. It depends on the distro, but I went with Pop OS, and it has been ridiculously pain free to game on. I play a large variety of weird, old, indie games, and I've encountered a single game that didn't work on Pop OS that I needed to play on Windows (WRC 4) and that particular game BARELY worked on Windows as well and took lots of setting up and fixing. More often than not I'm finding things work better on Pop OS (GTA IV doesn't crash when changing multiple graphics options like on Windows, and GTA IV and 2013's Tomb Raider both get better frame rates) than Windows.
This is all particularly notable because I didn't go in as some Linux expert touting the superiority of it (I chose Pop OS because I'm a noob, and it's easy to use), and fully expected to have all sorts of issues. My biggest complaint is that I should have set my dual boot partition for Pop OS way bigger because I barely need to use Windows anymore! My absolute #1 annoying niche issue that I can't figure out is that the VPN I need to use to remote into my work 1) will work on Windows, 2) DID work on Pop OS when connected to my phone's data but not my home wifi (???), 3) no longer works on either my phones data or wifi. Gaming though, has been a cakewalk, you should give it a go. Install proton, maybe grab a glorious eggroll, and you're set, they're support for NVIDIA cards make it equally pain free (across the 3 systems I mentioned we're gaming on Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA gpus, and all are equally pain free).
Even controllers are no problem, but I haven't messed around much with my wheel, or VR headset though, so we'll so how that goes.
Sorry I meant steam link is launched on quest. So you can connect wireless with the quest headsets. At least on Windows, not sure how well that works on Linux.
That said I have no experience with any of it as game pass sounds very unappealing to me as someone who prefers to own her games and not buy subscription services
Honestly gaming hasn’t been a problem for me on Linux. It is a bit more work in some games to get them up and running, but windows 11 started waking up without any reason so I abandoned it and think the extra work is worth it.
But I understand why someone wouldn’t want to go through it.
No I checked before I went to Linux. There was no obvious reason anywhere and nothing in the logs. It just decided to wake up every afternoon. Whatever, I’m done with the OS.
You are on Linux, obviously that fixed your problem. But yeah, the setting for faster wakeup from sleep is hidden somewhere, and Microsoft does not want that to be toggled off and may even ignore it, lol
Windows keeps the computer awake and does not do sleep like it used to anymore. S3 sleep, that is. Keeps wifi connected and all that jazz. Battery drain is significantly worse now.
Only if you play CoD, Fortnite, or Destiny 2. If you’re technically inclined and don’t mind working around some issues, gaming on Linux has come a long way and can be used for pretty much anything else. I used to dual-boot Windows for games, then I went to booting Windows in a VM and gaming with a spare, passed-through GPU. But I haven’t booted my VM in months, and I play lots of games.
So my options are install OS, install GPU drivers, install games, and then play games, or install OS, read 50 different guides, fight iommu or some other configuration, eventually get it working enough to install another OS in a VM, fight getting that performing well, install games, and then play games with potential for worse performance.
I love Linux, but claiming these two things are comparable is ridiculous. I work with Linux all day at work, I don’t want to work with it at home when I just want to relax.
The point I’m making is that you don’t have to read 50+ guides anymore. Install a distro with a good gaming track record (Nobara, Garuda, Pop_OS, Bazzite) and play games. Linux gaming has come a long way.
That said, I understand where you’re coming from. I’m just trying to say it’s easier now than it’s ever been before.
See, that's the thing: I very much mind "working around some issues" in gaming and in gaming alone. I'm as much of a tinkerer when it comes to software as the next guy, but now with a child and all of those pesky responsibilities that slowly pile up as you age, gaming time is
a) scarce and
b) the only real "wind down" time I get
I have time for other things that make me happy mind you, but gaming time needs to be different you cannot dive into an RPG and do subtle story Sidequests and whatnot if you can't dive into the game fully, switch off everything else for a time. Whenever I can do that, any "small issue" I'd need to work around would make me MAD.
Gaming is the one thing where I don't want the super customizable OS that works exactly as I want that I can get with Linux. I want to press play and be taken to a place where peasants will task any random stranger to bring their child somewhere and any Lord will entrust his kingdom into some random dipshit he just.met.
And not wanting to do that makes perfect sense. I don’t really want to either, of course, but I’ve decided that if I as a person who can do it actually switch to Linux that must mean that some others of similar minds are going to do it as well.
When it reaches critical mass it’ll just become easier and easier. It already is much easier than it has been, but not having time is a totally valid reason not to do it yet.
But at least for my personal experience the kinds of issues I encounter gaming on Linux are typically less frustrating than the ones I encountered gaming in Windows.
To pretend that either experience is pain-free would be dishonest but I’ve had less difficulties since switching fully to Linux and actually seen a noticeable improvement in performance on many games as well.
I think in reality if stability and never having to “fix” issues or bugs is your biggest concern you are probably more suited to console gaming
It isn’t just you, it failed on me enough times that I’ll never touch it again. I either manually install raw Arch, or use EndeavourOS instead for a “lazy” install.
ive been using arch for a couple of months and the only thing that has broken is the timezone
i have tried using the same command to set the time as i did when i first installed (it worked) but now it just wont changev. if anyone wants to help, id be pleased :]
i tried using the wiki to fix it and now it has the correct timezone. realpath answers “/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Sao_Paulo”
though the xfce time still shows that the pc time is 16 minutes late. date command does the same. (exemple: phone shows 15:16, which is the actual time, while pc shows 15:00)
though i dont live in sao paulo, it is just a little north of here and should be in the same timezone. also, when i installed the OS with that timezone, it showed the correct time.
I actually switched to openSUSE Tumbleweed from Ubuntu and love it. I know it’s not as popular, but I can’t see why. Rolling release, compatibility, support, it’s awesome!
I have been using the same Arch installation for about 8 years. The initial installation/configuration is the only time consuming part. Actual day-to-day usage is extremely easy.
Maybe this is no longer the case but I previously used Ubuntu and it was actually much more annoying in comparison, especially when upgrading between major revisions or needing to track down sources/PPAs for packages not in the main repos. Or just when you want something more up-to-date than what they’re currently shipping.
The rolling release model + the AUR saves so much time and prevents a lot of headaches.
Q : How/why did you make such a great OS?
A : I thought - what would attract young users to Linux? So I created this idea after a lot of reading and work.
I had a brief expedition into game development recently and ended up using Unreal Engine, I eventually gave up on Unreal – but I do plan on checking out Godot. Although, I eventually go home sick for Linux (my computer isn’t powerful enough to run a Windows VM with a game engine; please spare me), and ended up wanting a “it just works™” setup. So, logically, I try Fedora. Although, the installer just wouldn’t boot, not on a USB, not on Ventoy, nothing. Just a cold dark screen with a solid underline cursor. I also tried OpenSUSE at one point, but there’s some bad blood between me and that distro so I think I gave up at the installer. Anyway, I ended up installing Arch Linux, and would you look at that, the installer launches!
TL;DR: Arch Linux might take more time to get setup to your liking, but once you get it there, it it just works™.
PS: I have very much non-free hardware, this could be part of it – and it made installing Artix Linux with hardware encryption very difficult that one time. :/
Edit: PPS: I’m not trying to say “don’t use Fedora or OpenSUSE,” use what you want. This is my experience.
The difference between paranoia and fear is the difference between not wanting to buy a Google Home because it listens to you and not wanting to buy a Google Home because you’re afraid you’ll break it.
That is actually a great metaphore. I always just used:
It’s like me not wanting to use google photos because they scan your photos to train algorithms vs my mom not wanting to use google photos because she is afraid all of her photos will get deleted.
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