I remember having a conversation with a coworker who was getting into Linux when Kali was a big deal for script kiddies. He told me he installed it and I was like “dude you want it to be a read only OS, don’t install it. Just boot to it from a CD or USB.” We went back and forth on that for weeks until I just gave up and labeled him an idiot in my mind.
I put it on a dual boot laptop once because the laptop was to shitty to run to a proper VM and I wanted to get updates at a few different points in time. Intel Core 2 Dou and Windows XP as the other OS. It was more of a project laptop than a daily driver though.
Was windows XP the current windows generation or did you pick it for some other reason? I assume it’ll run easier on weak hardware, and until just now never thought about putting it on my laptop as a dual boot for those moments you actually need windows.
I’ve had this conversation with lots of first time Linux users. They think that Kali is the most hardcore hacker OS and that’s what they need to run for a introduction to security course.
When I was a kid I installed it and was like “hooHOO, me hacker”, so there are silly things like that.
Nevermind me being too intimidated by CLI to do anything in Linux at the time lmfao.
It’s been a while since I’ve thought about it, so what are the reasons why it’s a bad daily driver? I assume there’s poor support for drivers, hardware, etc.?
Or is it when you do pen testing you don’t want to leave traces of yourself? I’m not a cybersecurity guy, so I genuinely don’t know.
Hasn’t been the case anymore for quite some time, even though I think it has quite generous sudo rules. But yes, it’s not meant to be your main OS but instead more like a toolbox you use in liveboot/VM/etc.
Q : How/why did you make such a great OS?
A : I thought - what would attract young users to Linux? So I created this idea after a lot of reading and work.
What the fuck the do you have a life question is so offensive! Stop trying to just be edgy in memes!
I’m so sick of these stupid stereotypes that the Linux community has. I’ll have you know that I use both Debian and Fedora and I do not in fact have a life.
Until windows decides to turn it back on after you click ok or have clicked ok on a 80238 pages privacy agreement stating that if u breathe then you accept to reenable all the stuff you disabled
While this is just a meme, I heard of it happening somewhere so I’m not sure if it’s just a meme
not sure why this is getting downvoted, this has happened before and even happens on Apple devices where they just re-enable privacy settings you disabled or whatever else the fuck they want like, idk, bluetooth.
also Microsoft “may” block you from updating your system if its unable to reinstall edge like holy shite
Note for Windows users who uninstalled system apps using previous version If you used privacy.sexy (v0.12.6 or v0.12.7) to delete system apps, please follow these steps to avoid potential issues with Windows Updates: Open Command Prompt (Start Menu ➜ type “cmd” ➜ select “Command Prompt”). Copy and paste the following command: PowerShell -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Command “Remove-Item -Path ‘HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Appx\AppxAllUserStore\EndOfLife*’ -Force -Verbose” Press Enter. This action ensures that there are no side effects related to Windows Updates, since Microsoft may block updates if it is unable to reinstall Edge.
The last article I get but the analytics being reenabled was a bug right? I say this as someone who has done every manner of transfer, upgrade and OS update possible on all manner of Apple devices…my settings have never been changed.
One thing they did do recently maybe is flip the checkboxes for analytics to be automatically enabled when they’ve had it opt in for like a decade. Definitely not happy about that.
Bluetooth and WiFi never turns back on unless you’re doing it from the control center…in which case it doesn’t really turn off so much as disconnect you from your current AP and put Bluetooth in low energy mode.
If I’m wrong I want to know. I recently went nuclear on Microsoft’s privacy team for constantly emailing me promotions despite being unsubscribed to everything. I’m on a list now where even if I do sign up for a newsletter, I won’t receive it lol.
/edit Jesus what the fuck. My settings got reset! Thanks for the heads up…wtf is this shit??
Bluetooth and WiFi never turns back on unless you’re doing it from the control center
Interesting. still annoying tho especially with the whole Flipper Zero shenanigans.
The last article I get but the analytics being reenabled was a bug right?
ehhh? I have no idea how a bug like that happens, it could be my paranoia watching these huge companies play with their consumers that way to not believe it was a bug, but if you read the whole article that “bug” didn’t happen to everyone’s iPhone and Apple responded saying they were “investigating” the issue but never really commented on it afterwards.
I recently went nuclear on Microsoft’s privacy team for constantly emailing me promotions despite being unsubscribed to everything.
I have no idea but the whole experience was so surreal…while navigating the myriad of places it might be I noticed that clicking certain links would automatically sign you up for new services and newsletters. I should blog about it.
ehhh? I have no idea how a bug like that happens, it could be my paranoia watching these huge companies play with their consumers that way to not believe it was a bug, but if you read the whole article that “bug” didn’t happen to everyone’s iPhone and Apple responded saying they were “investigating” the issue but never really commented on it afterwards.
That’s what makes me think it was a bug. So I did have analytics and significant locations turned on but the latter is encrypted and sent to Apple but cannot be used by them, only by your device. The analytics though I’m sure I turned off.
Interesting. still annoying tho especially with the whole Flipper Zero shenanigans.
This one is stupid on Apple’s part. They’re definitely trying too hard to protect their users from technology and it’s driving me mad to be honest. I know for a fact some of my calendar events are disappearing (because they end up in calendar trash) but have no idea why or which device is causing it and I’m really just about to go all in on thunderbird and say fuck it.
Did you make a program to encrypt it before it’s sent to Apple? cause if apple is the one encrypting it they probably can make it so they can easily decrypt it too.
I’m really just about to go all in on thunderbird and say fuck it.
She doesn’t have a quest actually, I have a hp reverb g2, which connects to steam vr through the windows MR software. So no matter how compatible stream vr gets with Linux I still need to have the wmr stuff available.
Also I have a phone, so yeah everyone does have all my data despite my best efforts.
You’re right. Steam link exists for Linux but doesn’t connect to the new VR app. I agree valve likely has every intention of tapping this market soon though
I don’t get all the Apple hate from the Linux community. Out of the box you have a fully usable *NIX machine — they even switched the default shell to zsh! No advertising in the Start menu, and ssh (client and server) included by default. Install homebrew and boom — tmux, htop, nload, lolcats…most of your favorite tools can be installed easy as on any linux distro.
I use Debian for personal use, and I much prefer it…but basically only because I prefer i3 to the Mac GUI.
Virtually non-repairable hardware I’m especially salty on disks and keyboards. The SMCs have been garbage for years.
Expensive as hell.
Crappy default package management. Crappy heat management. Years of ignoring customers wants (escape key). Their logs are half-assed. Xcode is pretty trashy and they keep doing non backwards compatible upgrades for things. Once* a box reaches a number of years old You can’t get OS updates anymore then you can’t have xcode versions updates anymore.
They’re pretty, They have great battery life, and they’re *nix but the advantages fall apart pretty quickly when you start digging into them.
That makes about as much sense as saying that pip, gem, npm, cargo, or nix should called be the default package manager on Mac OS…
The default package manager is the default because it manages the system’s software. RPM, Deb/apt, pacman, etc. Homebrew is like pip or docker or cargo or snap or whatever else. You can set it up if you’d like but it’s certainly not a default. (Though I’m not trying to dispute that it’s good 😊)
Mac OS doesn’t have a good default package management solution (though they would if they just opened up the app store and added a CLI). It’s ok to admit it, and say that third party folks (who Apple does not support unless I’m missing something) are powering a pretty good third party experience. If only Apple cared about people who wanted a truly free an customizable computer, they could make a great OS :)
Homebrew is fairly different from pip, cargo or npm in that only python developers use pip, only rust developers use cargo, etc. And those are mostly used to manage libraries, rather than executables.
Meanwhile, essentially everyone who uses the console uses homebrew regardless of what programming languages they might or might not use. I was making a joke about how good, useful and basically required homebrew is.
Other people’s software is great, what was asked is why the Apple hate.
Apple doesn’t provide Homebrew, Apple updates *in the past have occasionally broken it horribly. (Looking at you El Capitan)
But while we are taking a look at home brew, If you need a specific version of something you are occasionally up a creek. It’s been a hot few years since I was daily driving OSX *as my primary, but when I needed a certain version of memcache or a certain version of netcat for a feature, It just wasn’t there and then compiling it for the OS was a far bigger pain in the ass than it is on any Linux distro.
EOL support. I have a 11-12 year old System76 laptop. Works perfectly on the latest Ubuntu version.
Their shitty walled garden for both software (iOS) and hardware (soldered components that don’t need to be).
Overpriced.
Fake sense of privacy.
I used Mac OS 6.x through 10.4. When I was in college and couldn’t afford to replace my aging G4, I triple booted Fedora, Mac OS X, and Windows on a hackintosh where I gravitated towards mostly Linux and Windows for a couple games. Owned a couple iPhones but decided to role Android when the nexus 6 came out to save some money when I had my first child on the way and my current phone was dying.
I don’t miss anything I left behind. Had a short stint at work during COVID where I was given a MacBook. While not horrible, I ran into enough nuances I was able to justify to my work using a Linux laptop instead. I just don’t find anything appealing to give them my business.
Agreed. Macs are perfectly fine and capable UNIX machines, really the only problem with them is the price. And yes I get that some people aren’t fans of the UI but it requires no more of a learning curve than, say, GNOME.
But whatever. I’m not even offended by this meme, it’s actually rather factual on the whole, which can’t be said for everything posted in this group.
Mac is proprietary bullshit that’s why. It’s fine for work usage. At home I want to support FOSS.
Also MacBooks are a ripoff. You get 6-8 years of support and then all updates stop. Not worth it when Linux support is indefinite, and even Windows gets you 10+ years.
The difference between paranoia and fear is the difference between not wanting to buy a Google Home because it listens to you and not wanting to buy a Google Home because you’re afraid you’ll break it.
That is actually a great metaphore. I always just used:
It’s like me not wanting to use google photos because they scan your photos to train algorithms vs my mom not wanting to use google photos because she is afraid all of her photos will get deleted.
I have been using the same Arch installation for about 8 years. The initial installation/configuration is the only time consuming part. Actual day-to-day usage is extremely easy.
Maybe this is no longer the case but I previously used Ubuntu and it was actually much more annoying in comparison, especially when upgrading between major revisions or needing to track down sources/PPAs for packages not in the main repos. Or just when you want something more up-to-date than what they’re currently shipping.
The rolling release model + the AUR saves so much time and prevents a lot of headaches.
Ubuntu has caused me far more headaches and downtime than Arch. Go figure.
And to make this be a worthwhile comment: I wonder if it is because I use Arch (and derivatives) that Ubuntu causes issues. When something isn’t right, I try and fix it. In Arch I can. In Ubuntu it seems like a dozen paper cuts to get there and it may not work in the long run anyway. Oh the Snap doesnt have foo compiled in? No problem I can add it to the snap directory. No, that didnt work. Ok I will remove it and bring in a .deb file. Dependencies not met. Fine, I will compile it from source… and by that time I have wasted a TON of time.
Worth noting, this meme is from the time before Arch had an easy installer. So that’s probably what it’s referring to. I joined Linux almost 4 years ago, and this meme already existed then. I dunno how old it really is.
reminds me of what happens when developing software and using “no code” tools. Fragile and inflexible but if you meet the exact use case in the exact way it’s an instant win
Oh god yeah that’s the fate of snap and flat pack.
Install OBS studio, current version has some issues oh look there’s a flat pack install the flat pack instead. OBS runs great. Oh, I need some plugins Go to install the plugins, The plugins folder isn’t where it belongs. I scrape along and find the plugins folder I try to shove them in there doesn’t work. Oh I need to find the flat pack installer for the plugin… But half the s*** I want isn’t available.
I truly appreciate them trying to make things more universal and easier. But it’s a fine line we’re walking between easy but unconfigurable and non-standard complicated but flexible.
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