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themeatbridge, in [repost] Want an empty omelette? Sure

I’ll never understand why people get huffy when ordering food. If there was ever a time for clear communication, it’s when you want something specific to eat. If the server asks you a clarifying question, you should be happy that they care enough to get it right, not annoyed that they are wasting precious time by not reading your mind.

Captain_Waffles,

Yep, my one grandma would do this, it was so irritating to go anywhere with her.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
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If the server asks you a clarifying question, you should be happy that they care enough to get it right

I’m delighted when my server asks questions. It means they’re engaging their brains. I’ve got an unusual food allergy that’s usually pretty easy to work around in the kitchen. If it’s at a restaurant I’m not a regular at (the unusual allergy makes me pretty memorable so I get to be a regular pretty fast), if they ask me something before I inquire about their process I know I’m somewhere that’ll keep me safe. It’s one of those indicators.

mrbubblesort, in /r/PICS moderators receive /u/ModCodeofConduct message accusing them of breaking site rules by switching to NSFW; mods can't reply, so post public response instead
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the meantime, to ensure that /r/PICS is adhering to all of Reddit’s guidelines and requests, we would be happy to revert the NSFW setting, restrict posting, and remove any and all content that could be considered “offensive” by anyone.

They're gonna nuke the sub next and I'm loving it

Striker7,

They've gone too far to turn back now!

Lmao, next post is the official "We're moving to Kbin" post.

PenguinJuice,

Was anyone seriously considering reddit ever again after this? That site is dead and buried. It's a sinking ship.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
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One must have no mind at all to take that place seriously at this point. No consistency, no fairness, no honesty, no integrity. One never knows what to expect nor from where to expect it.

Hell, they don't seem to know what they're doing. Their admins fight over who does what to whom and apparently they close subs then threaten themselves demanding that they reopen them. This didn't have to be a big mess but it was forced to be one anyway and there's no sense in trusting it to get any better.

abff08f4813c,

Their admins fight over who does what to whom and apparently they close subs then threaten themselves demanding that they reopen them.

What? Where and when did this happen?

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

Sorry, I don't know where I saw that but one of the "Reddit admins close down a subreddit" posts around here has someone talking about that happening, and some others mention mod actions being done/undone/partially re-done over time due to internal confusion or struggles or whatever. It seems clear no one knows what Reddit is doing, inside the company or out.

Hell, maybe the bots are doing the adminning too. There's no foolishness like absolute foolishness, yes?

abff08f4813c,

Ah I think I remember that. It was r/mildlyinteresting iirc - an admin demodded the entire mod team for breaking a rule that they didn't actually break (they filled the flag but didn't actually allow any NSFW) and a different admin added them back.

Kittengineer, (edited ) in Businesses can discriminate against their customers? Alright then...

For me the difference is in refusing to serve someone because how they were born vs the choices they make.

Totally ok with the later, but the laws are supposed to prevent the former. Just like it being illegal to discriminate against someone just because they are black or white or Asian or whatever.

AGrandiousIllusion,

I agree with you. Isn’t race specifically a protected class with the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment specifically? Political ideology or beliefs are not protected, unless violence is utilized. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Bazoogle,

It’s the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which protects from discrimination from any of the following: race, color, religion, sex, and national origin. Basically anything else is fair game, as far as I understand.

Kittengineer,

Correct. The point is sexual orientation should be protected like race.

Yendor,

For employment purposes, it is. Court precedents have affirmed that discriminating against someone based on sexual orientation is a form of sex-based discrimination which is illegal under Title VII.

But creative works (like baking a cake or building a website) are protected by the constitution as free speech. You can’t compel someone to perform a creative work against their own beliefs.

That’s why you’re allowed to refuse to build a website for a gay couples wedding, but you can’t refuse to change their tyres.

Kittengineer,

That’s great and all, but I personally don’t think that is right for fair.

Imagine a baker saying they don’t want to bake a wedding cake because of an interracial couple or for black people. I get the law is different, I’m saying personally I don’t agree with that law and think that’s a load of shit.

emperorbenguin,

The problem is you’re wrong though, because legally you have to look at the lowest common denominator.

Imagine you are a baker and someone wants you to bake a nazi cake? Would you want to? Hell no, but saying that a producer is required by law to perform any creative production asked of by the client means that you as a Jewish gay person (hypothetically) would be forced to bake that nazi cake.

Similarly, it doesn’t really matter what’s “right” it doesn’t change that for some people, lgbt issues are considered religious sin, and they feel like they would be committing a religious sin in baking a pride cake. Now are they loony? Yeah they are. But it doesn’t change that you cannot force someone to artistically create something against their will. ESPECIALLY when you can just go to another baker who will.

Kittengineer,

Again I draw the line on discrimination based on how a person was born vs their decisions.

Bakers can say no to nazis, democrats, republicans, tattoos, whatever.

But bakers being able to say no just because how you are born: white, black, male, female, gay, straight… that’s horse shit.

Why would argue that’s ok or morally correct or fair?

emperorbenguin,

The problem is that while it is obvious to you that sexual orientation is a matter of birth and not choice, it isn’t to, to be honest, the vast majority of people on this planet.

And also, just to put things in perspective, even the science isn’t fully convinced. Most evidence tells us it’s something from birth, and my personal life anecdote tells me I’m bisexual since the day I was born, but truthfully we don’t have any hard evidence to prove it, since it is nearly impossible to prove.

This is why it has to be included with the rest.

venia_sil,

This, and not to mention the science changes.

The color of the skin might be something you are “born as”, but as Michael Jackson proved you can certainly change it. Does it mean it is a choice, and not “something that you are”? What happens once CRISPR becomes commonplace?

Silvus,

I think you mean for a hypothetical website that was never ordered and certainly never order by the straight man the website sited. The court just ruled on two cases that were effectively made up. As the loan company also didn’t have any issue with debt forgiveness, and the state “filed for them” to “create” an injured party. it is past time to pit enough people on the bench that One president can’t fuck the legal system up for 6 peoples lifetimes.

root_beer,
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A lot of the people who discriminate against the lgbtq+ community absolutely believe that sexual orientation is a choice, and I’d wager that includes the justices who ruled in favor of the web designer.

Gerryflap, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
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Absolute chads. I’m curious what kind of response this is going to get.

Diprount_Tomato,
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“You’re not beautiful enough for a contest about female beauty with your male presentation, therefore we reject your application”

Cold and passive-agressive, just like an actual organisation would answer

xantoxis, in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

Apart from this, what if you just donated several hundred posters at once? They all have to be displayed?

Shrek,

That’s where I thought it was going.

XTornado,

One… Hundred… BILLION POSTERS!

httpjames,
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New MrBeast video

visak, (edited )

No. They’re not interested in playing fair or being consistent. They’ll simply warp the rules to fit their outcome and declare these posters noncomplaint. You can’t out-maneuver people who simply cheat.

The assholes on that side of things are a mixture of those who actually believe and want the US to be a religious state, and those who simply are using religion as a method of control. That second group is happy to see religious conflict because a) it distracts from real problems while they consolidate money and power, 2) they can use the fervor to further solidify their support form that religious base.

This is absolutely not new and has happened before in history. It’s just sad to see the US going down this path.

xantoxis,

(I’m going to set aside the fact that your Very Serious reply to my joke post is off-tone, and actually give you a serious answer.)

If you sent hundreds of posters to a school, you would find some school administrators who were only too happy to have the opportunity to plaster the word “God” on every school wall because they’re warped. I acknowledge that’s a thing, let’s move past it.

Most school administrators either a) hate this shit, or b) don’t really give a fuck. If you pulled this prank on one of those schools which–and I really want to stress this–are not on board with the stupid law in the vast majority of cases, you are actually handing them a chance to pull a glorious act of malicious compliance. If I were one of them, I would comply with the letter of the law and wallpaper every wall in the school with these things. Give the kids and the parents a chance to see them, and complain. Who are they complaining to? Not you, your hands are tied, you’re just complying with the law. You will explain this very patiently to every single one of them complaining about a school where every surface says “In God we Trust”. You’re on their side, but the school board and your legislators need to hear about this, because hey, we’re on the same team.

You can even go with them, and testify that your staff had to spend hours putting them up, taking time away from school activities. What are you supposed to do? This hurts the children.

School administrators don’t make the laws, but they can act in a way that brings the issue to the forefront of everyone’s mind. School administrators can give the parents a good reason to take the fight to someone who can actually do something about it.

That might not work, in the end. Texas is run by lunatics, after all. But a huge pile of posters might just be the reason you sleep at night knowing you did what you could.

visak,

The idea of donating alternative posters has already been tried and that particular school board just ignored the issue: npr.org/…/texas-in-god-we-trust-arabic-signs-chaz…I’m sure they’d treat a donation of 100s of posters the same way.

And as I (not a lawyer) read the law it only says that a poster has to be displayed in each building and has to be donated or purchased with donated funds: capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/…/SB00797I.htmso I don’t think you as an administrator would get away with plastering up hundreds of posters around your school, but let’s say you did. The parents will complain to you AND the school board (i.e. your boss). They’ll say you’re making fun of their religion, you’re a communist, etc. Even if they law was unambiguously on your side, they’ll only see what they want to see. You’ll find your chances of promotion to be zero, or you’ll just be managed out. Even if the Board somehow agreed with you, you made a stink.

I have friends who are teachers and administrators, not in Texas, who have left or been kicked over lesser issues. The rest are looking forward to retirement.

These bozos passing these laws don’t understand irony. They just want misdirection, conformity, and compliant kids. We just need to directly tell them to fuck off at this point.

I’m sorry for my continued Very Seriousness.

papajohn, in That time I followed my employment contract to the letter

Contracts are a bitch when both parties cant get along.

Hyperreality,

Always seems to come as a surprise that a contract goes both ways, doesn't it?

Especially when there are labour shortages, flexible contracts are actually very advantageous to employees.

If you don't like something your boss says, you can simply walk out the door and find something else.

Gives an astonishing sense of freedom. You have power in that relationship too.

lemonflavoured, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
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Clever way of protesting it.

thisisbutaname,

Agree. They can’t reject them without exposing their transphobia

AngryBear,

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  • mawkishdave, in Businesses can discriminate against their customers? Alright then...
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    To be fair if I see a sign saying they support Trump, GOP, or anti-LGBT I keep walking on by. I have seen many places that say if you are a bigot, sexist, or racist you are not welcome here. Those are the places I spend my money at.

    watson387,
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    Exactly. A Trump sign at a business guarantees that business won’t get my money now or in the future.

    FlyingSquid,
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    There’s a pizza place in a town near me that has “Make Pizza Great Again” permanently painted on their sign in huge letters. Needless to say, they will never get my business.

    Omegamanthethird,
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    There’s a place near me that I was planning on eating at. Then I saw they had a “Back the Bleu” burger. They won’t get my business.

    TempleSquare,

    Don’t forget the “Jesus fish” on their logo.

    I’m from out west, so it was a very foreign concept for me when I visited my sister in Arkansas and saw a lot of “Christian Family Auto” type places with Jesus swag trying to win over business.

    SomeoneElse, in r/aww holding a vote about malicious compliance

    A bunch of subs have been asking their users the same thing - some don’t have the scores hidden and “return to normal” was losing in all of them when I voted!

    Xathonn,
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    /r/pics was originally hidden, I think just because they were new comments. I check after a few hours and it was like 34k upvotes for john and like -8k on the return to normal comment.

    OtakuAltair,
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    I love democracy

    JoeKrogan,
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    Its a good idea to screenshot any you come across in case they change later there is evidence of tampering

    curiosityLynx, in Reddit: open /r/pics or else. Mods: OK but you didn't say how

    Has John Oliver already had an episode about spez's enshittifying of reddit? Because if not, I guess this is one way to make him at least mention it on Last Week Tonight. xD

    LenticularTorsion,

    That's probably the goal.

    Why John Oliver and noone else though?

    STUNT_GRANNY,

    Last Week Tonight is mainly known for taking deep dives into things people ought to be more concerned about, whereas most other late-night shows tend to focus on politics and pop culture stuff.

    grue,

    I'd argue that what John Oliver does is more legitimately political than the "focus on politics" horse-race bullshit the other shows have.

    wilberfan,
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    Unfortunately, no new LWT episodes until the Writer's Strike is settled...

    Rogue_General, in Reddit: open /r/pics or else. Mods: OK but you didn't say how
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    Glad you posted this - its the epitome of malicious compliance! And a fantastic form of protest too. With Reddit admins threatening to demote mods unless they re-open subreddits, this move takes away that ammo. Additionally, after the initial boost in activity due to novelty, the sub will get stale quickly and users will think of migrating to other platforms like lemmy or kbin. I'm all for it!

    Edit: This is what I'm talking about. Here is one of those Reddit refugees now!

    https://lemmy.world/comment/273363

    Welcome, @exixx!

    exixx,

    Thanks! It still feels weird, I had my account for a long time and have a fair amount of karma, but the site has been going to shit for a while and enough is enough. This feels like the very early web or fidonet and I’m stoked to be here.

    RozhkiNozhki, in [REPOST] Send 3 years' worth of documents? OK sure!
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    When I had my first job as a receptionist, our fax still printed on thermal paper rolls and we had a particularly bright customer fax us a 50 page contract. I was almost in tears as I watched a newly replaced very expensive roll getting wasted in minutes. I called my supervisor to vent and he walked to my desk with a sharpie, wrote IMCOMPLETE across the roll and said “fax it back to them”. They were calling us back in less than a minute screeching on the phone to stop transmission.

    s0q,

    Glorious!

    Nerogar, in Reddit: open /r/pics or else. Mods: OK but you didn't say how

    Looks like a few other subs have joined. r/gifs and r/art did the same poll

    ReginaPhalange, in Here's all the source code

    Just out of curiosity…
    How many pages were there?

    ExtremeDullard,
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    I don’t know. I didn’t do the printing. The law firm did it. But I remember our lawyer mentioning that they fedexed over 20 cartons of printing paper. Assuming 500 sheets per ream and 5 reams per carton, that would be 50,000 sheets, or 100,000 pages since it was printed on both sides to be even more annoying.

    popekingjoe,
    @popekingjoe@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s beautiful. Simply beautiful.

    Danatronic,

    Damn. Did they ever find your actual source code in there

    ExtremeDullard,
    @ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    No idea. That company folded before it could even respond. It was a typical dot-com with a completely ridiculous business model. That’s why our lawyer decided to fight the suit: he figured they’d collapse soon anyway, so we might as well milk the lawsuit for the publicity.

    Boinketh,

    How much did it cost to print?

    Wats0ns,

    Approximately one forest

    HamBrick,

    This just made me briefly wish lemmy had awards

    HamBrick,

    Since Lemmy isn’t pay to win, you get this: 🎖️

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Your lawyer destroyed a forest to comply maliciously. Sort of not the best way to do it IMO.

    ngdev,

    Na, they’ve got managed forests and it’s fine. Your comment had me google to see and it’s actually pretty interesting.

    LeFantome,

    As somebody who lives in an area with an active logging industry, I can tell you that parts of the world with an economic interest in their forests still have lots of trees whereas areas that do not are very likely to have destroyed most of theirs.

    The relationship between paper use and the environment is not what you think it is.

    jxk,

    Epic!

    BeigeForce,

    Please tell me they used bike couriers.

    Astroturfed, in [REPOST] Military Wife Demands Salute? Never!

    That dependapotomous was on every deployment with him, drink wine on the couch!

    hoshikarakitaridia,

    Top ten dictionary moments 2023

    betterdeadthanreddit,

    “Tricareatops” is another good one. The name comes from Tricare, the medical coverage provided to service members and their immediate family so it’s more or less the same as a dependapotamus.

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