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MudMan, in For what purpose have you summoned me?
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This is such a pet peeve of mine.

Why are anglo writers obsessed with using latin as some ancient, mystical language? Why would Latin be tied to magic in any way? Do they realize that Latin was spoken all through Europe for millenia and its vulgar form evolved into tons of current languages? Or that people were using latin in churches, courtrooms and universtities all the way up to the 20th century? Latin was an optional in my high school. I took two years.

If random Latin words could do magic all of Europe would have been constantly exploding. Newspapers would be covering the latest magic volcano to pop up in Southern France. World War II movies would include accidental summonings.

Also, for us romance language speakers it sounds vaguely understandable, so the weird things they use for spells sound goofy as hell. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than using fake Latin-sounding made up stuff as in Harry Potter.

spauldo,

Latin was the lingua franca for the educated western world for centuries. Texts on alchemy, mysticism, and religion were all written in Latin. Church rituals were performed in Latin.

Most magic in fiction has its roots in the past. What language would be more fitting?

MudMan,
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No, wait, it was not "lingua franca in the educated western world", vulgar latin was just... the language a lot of Europe spoke for centuries.

People think of Latin as this highbrow educated thing, because that's what was left of it after the development of romance languages from vulgar Latin, but Latin was just what normal people used to talk to each other for a long time.

And yes, sure, texts on alchemy, mysticism and religion were written on it.

Also texts on food recipes, tax collection, how the tree from your neighbour's yard was blocking the sun to your oranges and the rude graffitti in the tables of the pub.

Honestly, I don't see why the chosen language would have to matter to your fictitious magic system. Surely if you have to say words and words mean things, the language doesn't affect what the words mean. I tend to like it when people still manage to tap into magical thinking without the crutch of pulling what they think sounds old-timey from somewhere. Neil Gaiman, Jim Henson or Grant Morrison were/are really good at it.

Or, you know, if you're a meganerd like Tolkien you can always just... make a whole new language for it. That also works.

spauldo,

I’m not talking about vulgar Latin or the romance languages.

For about a millenia and a half, everything that could be considered scholarship was written in Latin. Newton’s Principia Mathematica? Latin. Copernicus’ De revolutionibus orbium coelestium? Latin. Kepler’s Astronomia nova? Latin.

Almost every educated person in the western world learned Latin. That’s how they communicated with their colleagues in other countries - letters written in Latin. That’s why it was a lingua franca.

MudMan,
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Yes? I think you may have missed my point in the shuffle.

What I'm saying here is that Latin doesn't make sense as a mystical, secret language for magic because it was too common. I'm not saying it wasn't the language of scholars, I'm saying that not only was it the language of scholars, so every treatise on optics or history would have triggered accidental lightning bolts, but it was also a commonly spoken language as well.

Hey, you know what is lingua franca for science while being widely spoken? English.

Does that sound mystical to you?

spauldo,

If English had been a dead language for fifteen hundred years and was only used by people who talk about things only a tiny subset of the population understands?

Yeah, it would seem pretty mystical.

MudMan,
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But that's my point, it hasn't been, and it wasn't.

Again, Latin was mandatory in my high school for a year, optional for two more. In the 1990s. It's still optional, I believe. My parents went to church in Latin as kids.

So no, it doesn't sound mystical outside the anglosphere, it sounds like crusy old priests, lawyers and boring lessons. Today.

IHaveTwoCows,

Aramaic

MudMan,
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Definitely a better pick, if you're just gonna piggiback on a language. Still raises a ton of questions, though.

backhdlp, in "The "fediverse" is the future of social media"
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Man, I love the Fediverse. (only Lemmy)

Vej, in On culinary crimes

I’m going to take one for the team and make this.

I also love pineapple on pizza.

trailing9,

Don’t leave us hanging. Have you died or not?

Vej,

Not dead yet, didn’t make it. I don’t have cheese right now.

tacosplease,

The problem with Pineapple on pizza is that everyone thinks ham goes with it. That’s ok, but pepperoni and pineapple is so much better, and nobody ever gets to try it because of “Hawaiian” pizza.

Vej,

I just like pineapple on cheese.

ggiesen,

I put pepperoni, ham, bacon and pineapple on my pizza. So tasty.

neryam,

This, also bacon and pineapple 🤤

Or go full Hawaiian with crispy spam and pineapple…

Ham is bottom tier tbh

Someone,

Finally someone’s brave enough to say the truth about ham.

The only reason I enjoy eating ham on meat lovers or Hawaiian pizza is because it’s pizza and it doesn’t disassemble well.

scottywh,

Bacon, pineapple, and jalapeño is what the fuck’s up.

joemo,

I think what also turns people off of pineapple on pizza is some places do these huge chunks of pineapple. Smaller chunks are better as they actually cook down a little and are delicious.

I am also part of the pineapple and pepperoni game. I would also recommend trying pineapple and Italian sausage if you like Italian sausage.

stolid_agnostic,

And they should be dry well before touching pizza to avoid sogginess.

GratefullyGodless,
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My wife loves a good 3 P pizza as she calls it…Pineapple, Pepperoni, and Peppers (green). She orders one at least once a month.

oatscoop,

I always like people gatekeeping pizzas that use toppings other than the traditional Italian ones.

… ignoring the fact that tomato sauce is from the Americas.

DrPop,

I put leftover beans and corn on a pizza from Taco night and one of my friends flipped. I thought it was pretty good. Pizza is just bread sauce and a topping.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Your friend was right

DrPop,

My friend only eats cheese pizza.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Ouch. Sucks to be wrong against someone with such poor taste

Letstakealook,

Make a pineapple, mac and cheese, and raisin pizza.

HotDogFingies,
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Help

Crashumbc,

No

Cylusthevirus, in Ms. Rib would like to speak to a manager
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Kinda looks like she came from a McRib tbh.

ryannathans, in We're doomed

They’ve been doing that for a decade

UnverifiedAPK,

Yeah pretty sure flowers would have already had to have been there to be blooming. Not a lot of birds migrating to Antarctica spreading seeds.

Obi,
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That made me curious and it looks like yes, birds do migrate there: polar-latitudes.com/wildlife/migratory-birds/

Banana_man,

What about African swallows?

WaxedWookie,

Well, I think in this instance, European swallows seen more likely given the distance, but either way, we’d probably need to consider them laden swallows for the purpose of our calculations…

UlyssesT, in Upgrade to Maternity Plus™ today!

Hear me out… Maternity Ward… on the blockchain!

https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a95b3900-045d-45f1-9770-bdf6fa233c08.jpeg

kitonthenet, in Double standards or something, I don't know...

Says who buddy Bidens ass is getting reamed on this one

UlyssesT, in literally no clue

Few symptoms of old fashioned boomer-standard death cult mentality are as insidious and understated as the obsession with inch-high fuzzy green obedience rectangles and their hatred of viable ecosystems.

President_Pyrus, in Double standards or something, I don't know...
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Tasteless

FARTYSHARTBLAST, in Ms. Rib would like to speak to a manager
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*ape

jkmooney, in Facts dont care about your feelings.
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"Plutocracy" is the term for "Financial Oligarchy" BTW. Worth knowing the term if you live in the U.S. since that's kinda what we have here these days :/

Touching_Grass,

Hold on, let me go watch a 30 min YouTube video to understand these terms

Balthazar,
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Thanks for the term! Made finding a good page for understanding it (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy) much more simple! Greatly appreciated :D

Catsrules, in Upgrade to Maternity Plus™ today!

Lol I thought it was an alcohol ad at first.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted, in Maybe even the rest of my life!
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Where is this meme from anyway? I’m curious. A movie, I imagine.

reversebananimals,

TV show Narcos on Netflix.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
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Thanks. :)

Coreidan, in How do y'all say GIF?

Considering gif is just an acronym there isn’t a right or wrong way to pronounce it as technically it isn’t a word, and therefore there is no “official” way to say it.

NateNate60, in We're doomed

A reminder for context: it’s not summer yet in Antarctica. Summer doesn’t start until December. It’s still supposed to be cold.

vivadanang,

instead of adding ice this winter, they lost ice. during antarctic winter.

TenderfootGungi,

That is not correct. The Antarctic gained far less ice, but it did gain.

scitechdaily.com/brrr-eaking-milestones-antarctic…

vivadanang,

hey thanks for the details, I misread the ice shelf dropping off as total losses. it’s still the worst winter on record. reuters.com/…/no-quick-fix-reverse-antarctic-sea-…

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