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Sheeple, in At least uBlock Origin is always up-to-date now
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I just “remove element permanently” on U-Block origin.

Make sure to remove the invisible element too that covers the whole screen. They tried that to prevent ya from just opening the video anyway.

To deactivate the scrollblock, if you experience it,just go full screen once and go back out. Which can be easily automated via a macro or literally just pressing the F key twice.

YouTube’s attempts at blocking Adblockers are pathetic

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not going to faff with all that until gray jay stops working

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

You know what, valid. I’m just listing the solution I used. I’ll make sure to check out Grayjay too.

This is the also the reason why Google is guaranteed to fail in their efforts. If one way to bypass their crap fails, 3 others will be developed swiftly <3

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

wgats grayjay

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

I have no idea but it appears to be a client side APK similar to YouTube vanced from my 5 minutes of poor research

nottheengineer,

An app that lets you watch stuff from youtube, twitch, patreon, odyssey and more while respecting your privacy and having a better UI than any other streaming app.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

It’s YouTuber Louis Rossman aggregator for content with the idea that you follow the creator regardless of platform, so if they have a YouTube/twitch/odysee account you’ll get all of their content in one place so if youtube bans someone for something random as they do that creator and their audience aren’t affected

crandlecan,

Sssst 😇

pensa,

YouTube’s attempts at blocking Adblockers are pathetic

I've long maintained that the majority of programmers working for Alphabet/Google/YouTube spent more time learning how to get the job than how to do the job well. There is a lot more to coding than "Cracking the Coding Interview."

It's not about building cool things over there. Is has not been that way for a long time. They just want the money and reputation.

Skaryon,

I don’t know. If I were a webdev at Google I would probably be against this nonsense as much as we are here. So I’d implement the most half assed ‘blocking’ of ad blockers possible knowing that the moron product manager who requested it won’t be able to tell.

Cinner,

That’s a great way to advance your career by the ‘genius’ kid that comes up with the much better way to do it and calls you out during a meeting while showing his already-written code that does much better than your senior dev self.

egeres,
@egeres@lemmy.world avatar

I partially disagree, the average developer at google is very competent, yet, their work pipelines must be so long and complex that such talent gets somewhat diluted

baascus,

Pihole has still been working reliably as well

odious,
@odious@feddit.de avatar

Not for me 🤔 I am running PiHole and the adblock thing still shows up. Which blocklists are you using?

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I’ve never had pihole block YouTube ads. I don’t think it’s capable of that.

nicolairathjen,

How does this work? I’ve been considering using a Raspberry Pi for Pihole, but I’ve been discouraged as it wouldn’t work for YouTube anyways. How I understand it is that Pihole is DNS, which just blocks certain domains. Since Youtube ads and videos are indistinguishable from a networking POV, it won’t be able to block them. Am I wrong? Is there something I have misunderstood?

baascus,

YouTube ads are distinguishable at the dns level for now at least. For the optimal setup I recommend docker-compose on a raspi with watchtower. This setup will automatically keep everything up to date but requires a little docker knowledge. Here’s some documentation:

github.com/pi-hole/docker-pi-holegithub.com/containrrr/watchtower

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

Pi hole does not block it at all for me.

Have you tried accessing youtube in incognito a couple of times with adblockers disabled?

Not saying it isn’t true but I, and several other pihole users I know, still see the block without uBo

KnightontheSun,

Long time Pi-Hole user here. It is not effective in this regard. Someone please prove me wrong.

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see how it could be given that they are loading a detection script in the client.

It has nothing to do with DNS. I suspect those saying that PiHole solves it simply haven’t been rolled out to yet (or are using adblockers but have forgotten)

tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Is it really that easy? Why did they even bother?

They’ve known about ad blockers for well over decade now and their “solution” can be bypassed with inspect-element. Nice.

Jako301,

It is, in fact, not that easy. It works to hide the warning, but once you reache the stage where they block videos, it won’t help you.

The better option is to block all scripts on YouTube and only whitelist the 2 or 3 that are necessary to watch videos.

GissaMittJobb,

It hasn’t really mattered enough for them to spend any engineering time on it before. Zero interest rates are over, though, and money actually kind of means something now. This is just the first move in a chain of many.

A warning for anyone relying on stuff like adblockers for YouTube - it’s not that hard for Google to figure out that we’re doing it, simply query for which users have zero ad impressions. Google also has a certain tendency to permaban Google accounts in violation of their policies and then ignoring all appeals. If you rely on Google accounts for email, photos and the like, this might be the time to plan contingencies.

Personally I’ve started using Piped instead. The lack of recommendations is a bit of a bummer, but in all honesty it was kind of like the switch from Reddit to Lemmy - just had to wean myself off the digital sugar pills.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I get the feeling that they aren’t trying particularly hard.

JustAManOnAToilet,

It might be a cost benefit thing. They probably could hire a team to perfect it and be on hand round the clock playing whack a mole with every workaround that gets found, but the half measure might catch the masses and be enough to not warrant spending the extra to do that.

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately they are actually updating their anti adblock measures twice a day. Poorly but they still are

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

No, I mean they could do what streaming services do and drm encode the stream, or make the ads indistinguishable from the videos, making it impossible to block.

themusicman,

If the ads were added to the video stream (I assume this is what you’re suggesting) they can be easily skipped by scrubbing the timeline. On the other hand, if they add metadata so the client can make them unskippable, the ad blockers will have something to work with. Classic catch 22.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

btw as a general rule, you can prevent scrollblock by just doing

##body:style(overflow:auto !important)

ClamDrinker,

This was my gut reaction as well, but dont do this, the makers of uBlock Origin warn against it!https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/wiki/solutions/youtube/detection-faq/

Can’t I just hide the pop-up with uBO’s Picker?

No. Cosmetic filters don’t stop the message - they just temporarily hide it from view. The anti-adblock script will continue to run in the background and will eventually block you from watching videos. Please don’t use, share or recommend using any of those filters and don’t report any issues when using them.

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

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  • 4am,

    That’s still a cosmetic block and the script will eventually cut you off from the servers is what I think they more saying - as in, the servers will just refuse to send you the video.

    JSens1998,

    They aren’t trying right now because they’re running tests. I’m assuming they’re testing what does and doesn’t work. They probably wanted us to find workarounds so they could patch them when they decide to actually roll out the anti-adblock feature.

    bmsok, in Feels good

    Winberries are delicious.

    fluke, in Do yourself a favor
    @fluke@snake.substantialplumbing.repair avatar

    How about you go in the trash with the caesar salad?

    RushingSquirrel, in Time to go dance in the rain

    I remember the moment I put down the pen and thought: that’s it! Last exam ever! Never going back to university after that, it’s finally over!

    That was 15 years ago and I still relish that moment.

    Krackalot, in Its getting old.

    I see you like things that work. We’ve decided that we’ll break it, and sell you the solution. We call it service.

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    Them: this is pretty good right? And affordable too!

    Me: yeah it’s decent, don’t touch anything

    Them: we’ve put in ads

    Me: what? I don’t want ads, wtf

    Them: bro, totally have you covered. No ads for $12.99 a month

    Me: arr matey, don’t worry yerself 🦜🏴‍☠️

    Omega_Haxors,
    PersnickityPenguin,

    Why does winamp now require ads and $12.99/ month to run?! It was free back in 1997!

    dubyakay,

    Not sure if this is a serious comment, but in case it is, try foobar2k.

    Touching_Grass, (edited )

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  • RQG,
    @RQG@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree. I also think ads do influence us way more than almost anyone would believe or admit. Why else would companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars on ads without batting an eye. Many products cost as much or less than their ad campaign cost to make.

    So I try to avoid ads as much as possible. I haven’t seen or heard an ad in a long time aside from billboards and posters which are basically impossible to avoid.

    pthaloblue,

    Ads are basically paid graffiti

    RQG,
    @RQG@lemmy.world avatar

    There actually is paid graffiti. Most that I’ve seen looks absolutely awesome. It’s insane what a graffiti artist can do when they got plenty time and don’t have to watch out to not be caught.

    Zeozulu,

    You should check out Wynwood Walls if you ever find yourself in Miami, Florida. Blocks of amazing street art.

    mindbleach,
    Touching_Grass, (edited )

    I think they’re worse then that though. They attempt to manipulate and influence. Graffiti is just kind of there. Advertising attempts to look like its just there. All so it can actually pull tricks on you. Its a messed up industry.

    After all the ad industry is what spawned climate denialism and also spread confusion between cigarettes and cancer among other issues. Issues that we have to be convinced of otherwise we might actually make a better societal choice. Hell The grandfather of modern advertising Edward Bernays leveraged what he know of human nature and sub consciousness to build this industry.

    Sure almost all ads are benign individually. But as an industry they’re pretty evil. Hell if it wasn’t for ads, we wouldn’t have lost the internet to the shit show it is today. All the identity stealing, data collection and propaganda machines were spawned because we ignored the growing cancer that is online ads.

    When I grew up there was a big push to reject ads and corporate spread. Even sub cultures like punk was focused on rejecting that growing bullshit. Then it all stopped. Like the ads won and now you’re the insane one if you say that advertising is a major issue in society today. Now every kid wants their own sponsorships and some do get it.

    HowManyNimons,

    Ads are psychological abuse.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    The story of how Virginia Slims became the #1 cigarette for women is the story of pure, psychological sneaky evil.

    VieuxQueb,
    @VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

    Hmm, sorry my associate was meaning “temporary solution”, about every year you will need a new one. And we are so generous that if you buy two years in advance we will give you a 10% rebate and a big ole sticker with our brand in bold colors on it so you can give us free publicity.

    MBZzZzZzZz, in Time to go dance in the rain

    Lol. My last exams were over ten years ago, and this morning I woke up after dreaming I had been late to an exam I hadn’t studied for. I have that dream at least once a month, still.

    StalksEveryone, in You can’t scare me
    @StalksEveryone@futurology.today avatar

    the meme itself was trying to stop you before you irradiated the whole damn image.

    HubertManne, in Hope you all had a good one.
    @HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

    oh man that is my perfect weekend. this last one unfortunately was not like that.

    StalksEveryone,
    @StalksEveryone@futurology.today avatar

    no chocolate chip cookie?

    HubertManne,
    @HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

    not even enough blanket time. curiously though I had a sorta of choclate chip cookie thing just after doing that reply last night.

    StalksEveryone,
    @StalksEveryone@futurology.today avatar

    that’s racist and I’m telling every media outlet

    Flumsy, in Its getting old.

    Inventor: invents something Capitalism: rewards him

    Inventor: invents something communism: *cricket noises"

    UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

    Inventing better ways to do things isn’t rewarding?

    Flumsy,

    You can also invent better ways to do things under capitalism. There is no difference in that regard

    OurToothbrush,

    Inventor: invents something Capitalism: rewards him

    Inventor invents something: capitalism has them pay to be an inventor as they are probably a grad student and then sells the patent for a pittance to a corporation they are friendly with

    Inventor invents something or fails and has to try again: communism gives them free Healthcare, education, housing and food.

    gkd,
    @gkd@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not to mention that they overlooked the fact that for some people - a sizable number too - the reward can be in helping others. Not everyone is a pariah looking to churn profits while pretending to care about other people’s needs.

    Unfortunately the barrier to do this in capitalism is high, because like you mention, if you’re devoting your time to something that is not immediately producing profit then you may lose access to those basic needs. Companies can weather those losses, but will then want to make up the costs by - usually - using shady practices.

    That’s not to say communism is the answer. But it surely isn’t capitalism as we have it today.

    OurToothbrush,

    I mean to get rid of profits ya gotta get rid of the bourgeoisie, and then you’re in a classless society.

    Flumsy,

    capitalism has them pay to be an inventor

    I live in a capitalist country with free education. Healthcare is free if you cant afford it and is always a percentage of your income otherwise. Housing and food is also free if you cant afford it.

    I have trouble seeing why capitalism is supposedly so bad

    OurToothbrush,

    Social democracy isn’t sustainable though, it requires the threat of a revolution to force the capitalists into a compromise and will be rolled back when that threat passes in the name of profit.

    Zehzin, (edited )
    @Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

    Philo Farnsworth invented the television, as well as making significant contributions to microscopy, medical procedures and nuclear fusion. He had to fight legal battles throughout his career because of patent fuckery, and never saw the fruits of his labor. His research was constantly underfunded and he died of alcoholism in relative obscurity.

    GhotiPhin, (edited )
    @GhotiPhin@kbin.social avatar

    Inventors in the USSR were paid just as well, if not better than, their American counterparts. Mind you, this is not a defense of the USSR or authoritarian communism, Stalinism killed many people. However, maybe educate yourself on how these systems worked before critiquing them. A critique of communism does not negate critiques of capitalism.

    Also - be careful with conflating inventors and capitalists. Inventors are often laborers who have their work profiteered by from the owning class - famously, Nikola Tesla lost control of his patent for DC motors and was left penniless as capitalists formed a new utility company.

    FunkyMonk, in You can’t scare me

    Make a game where I can interact with everything and it might be fun but trying to find the fucking key on the fucking desk or the fucking note on the ground in a dark room is a gameplay mechanic that needs to fucking die.

    Omega_Haxors,

    It’s the horror game equivalent of room escape games hiding vital-to-progression items under unmarked floorboards.

    1847953620,

    death by waterboarding

    FastWarfarin, in Do yourself a favor
    @FastWarfarin@lemmy.world avatar

    Finally someone with a like mind

    peopleproblems, in Do yourself a favor

    … I’m glad someone else said it

    GirthBrooks, in You can’t scare me
    @GirthBrooks@lemmy.world avatar

    Feeling seen rn

    OsrsNeedsF2P, in Rule #2 Double tap

    What’s with these antisemitic memes /s

    LameName3000, in ...Then you select it, and the Captcha fails.

    I started half-assing these a long time ago because they never fail anyway.

    Amazinghorse,

    The test isn’t the panels you click on, it tracks how your mouse pointer moves. Bots or robots tend to move in straight lines, whereas with humans, the pointer moves in a more random fashion. That’s how you pass.

    intensely_human,

    !??

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