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Nipplecreek, in venture capitalism goes brrr

I hate it. It takes longer to get to useful features and in place you can now access things you’ve never cared to use faster.

verysoft,

You don't like excessive padding and useless information thrown into your face? The update is just to sell themes and shit on mobile, there was no UX consultation. Download version 205.15 to get the normal UI back.

atocci, in venture capitalism goes brrr
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

How the fuck do I see who's online on a server now that I can't open the drawer on the right anymore? I don't use Discord much but I could figure it out.

bonn2,

Click the channel title

atocci,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

That is definitely not the place I would expect that to have been, thank you

potustheplant,

There’s a chevron next to the channel name, indicating that you can get more details if you tap that. I get that it’s a significant design change but I don’t think it’s that unintuitive.

Retrograde,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s a clear step in the wrong direction

LdyMeow,

It’s a little unintuitive that it shows status of the people in the server and not something to so with that specific channel.

potustheplant,

Not quite. It shows the online status for the people that are in that channel. Not all users are in all channels so, imo, it makes sense. The only complaint I can think of is that you can’t see the status for all of the people in a server.

atocci,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

It's not clear though, because if I reminder correctly, tapping channel names before this update would give you information related to the channel, didn't it?

potustheplant,

And it still does…

Liz,

It does the same as it did before. Hitting the channel name was just an alternative navigation method to swiping the chat window.

BuboScandiacus, in venture capitalism goes brrr
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

What happened ?

ILikeBoobies,

They moved private messages to a dedicated button at the bottom instead of being in the server list

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

And why is this such a big issue ?

potustheplant,

It’s not

averyminya,

B-b-but my habit of scrolling up to read private messages!MY HABIT!!!

KrummsHairyBalls,

Because Discord users are insufferable. Remember when they screamed and cried so much about them changing to a different shade of purple?

debonair, (edited )

Barring design changes, Discord changed the user interface of their mobile app that is functionally worse than the old one:

—search results no longer show images and are an endless scroll instead of pages, making it harder to find stuff.

—search function no longer has filters for channels. You have to be in the channel for search results to show, which is not only annoying but is limiting if you’re looking for results across multiple channels.

—can no longer swipe right to show the list of server members. Instead, you have to click on the channel name to see it. However you can still swipe left to show server lists, so it’s inconsistent and breaks muscle memory.

—by default, contact lookup is enabled, which is big privacy violation and isn’t easy to turn off. Such a thing should be opt-in, not opt-out.

—you can no longer see who has DMed you. All you see is a notification in the direct messages button instead of the user’s profile image.

—some users have reported that when they send an image or video in a server, the screen opens to the latest DM instead of that channel. As a result, they’ve seen images and videos to the wrong chat. It might be a bug but, if not, a very poor decision.

—the new dark mode is not accessible to users with vision problems.

—a lot of buttons were moved needlessly, which not only breaks muscle memory but generally isn’t common sense. Some options, like in voice calls, are harder to access now.

A lot of users liked Discord’s simple and intuitive UI. In my experience, the updates in the past weren’t so radical and unpleasant. Such an overhaul is just really disorienting and irritating, does not make for a good user experience.

Also, Discord on Twitter has been dismissive of people’s complaints, telling people to get used to it rather than acknowledging the issues they’re bringing up.

ILikeBoobies, (edited ) in venture capitalism goes brrr

They really just need to integrate plugins/themes into their product

Would love proximity chat

Godnroc, in oily surrender

When words have failed it is the time for action. When action fails, I don’t know, maybe try seduction?

NakariLexfortaine,

I was thinking “scare them off with UNBRIDLED HEDONISM!”

verysoft, in venture capitalism goes brrr

You can download the 205.15 apk to remove that cancer.

Nipplecreek,

So say someone were really stupid. How would they do that… asking for a friend

JPAKx4,

A mirror site, like apkmirror.com

verysoft, (edited )

There's lots of information on downloading APKs, the instructions can differ depending on which phone you have.
But essentially you download an APK file from a mirror site and install it. An example being APKMirror, just the APK version will work.

Oh and this is android btw, no idea how you would do it on ios.

c0mbatbag3l, in venture capitalism goes brrr
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Was I the only one that didn’t like having personal chats in the same place as servers?

This seems like a huge UI improvement tbh, and I’ve been using Discord for years on mobile and desktop.

Anticorp,

The discord UI has always been confusing hot garbage. If they’ve done anything to address that then weeee!

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

They essentially took notifications/settings from the bottom corner and the personal chat section and just made a four panel bottom menu with individual icons for each. They’re simple in aesthetic but fairly clear, in my opinion.

So it goes as follows.

Servers -> Private Chat -> Notifications -> Settings/Account

Otherwise it’s the same as far as I can tell, really. I can still swipe to go back in servers, etc.

Anticorp,

Yeah I just checked. It’s still hot garbage, but slightly less so. I think this is actually an improvement.

Tlaloc_Temporal,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

Don’t forget that the “back” behavior in “forum” channels actually goes back to the forum now, instead of opening the channel list!

Fixed a major PITA.

pixeltree,

Yeah I think this is a huge improvement to the app tbh

WarlordSdocy, (edited )

I just hate that I can’t swipe to easily to get to servers from messages anymore. You still can but it takes a second to load now after swiping and it’s not as consistent to get it to do it.

Edit: Also removing the member list for a server being on the right when you swipe is annoying too.

2xsaiko,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I used the beta UI for a while and imo the new one is worse since it brings backs some of the old UI (i.e. the 1:1 port of the desktop UI for the server sidebar). What they had in the beta UI for server selection was so much better

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

the drawer was pretty convinient but didn’t work with server folders that well…
also the fullscreen channel list didn’t look good.
the current “new” ui is a nice middle ground

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

yeah much easier to reach.
the new ui is buggy but that’s obviously not intentional

GTG3000,

It’s a departure from the desktop UI and it made the whole thing much clunkier.

I will be fair, moving the button to the bottom row is more convenient if you have a lot of servers to scroll up through and use the DMs a lot, I don’t care about that as much.
What I do care about is how the rest of it changed. Can’t just quickly swipe into the DM list and back any more, if you exit the DM that’s it, you gotta click on it again. Switching between DMs and servers is more clunky, a bunch of UI I was actively using is broken up. They broke the search function, and the new way to check channel participants (click on the title) is uncomfortable as hell compared to old “just swipe to the right”.

Personally I hate the new UX even if some bits are an improvement. It’s just too much stuff to change all at once and not for the better.

wowwoweowza, in Well that's one way to ruin my day

So… for those of us who were adults on 9-11, this format is disturbing.

Candelestine,

Eh, I was, and I am undisturbed. I honestly find it incredibly hard to believe that any 40+ year old netizen could find any meme format actually disturbing.

wowwoweowza,

If you lost your parents on that day too, I think you’d find it disturbing as well.

Candelestine,

That is true, I likely would. But I would know that internet meme formats are cross-platform and freedom of expression dominates the internet as a whole over other priorities. So, I wouldn’t be able to do anything about it, and it wouldn’t be a great idea to try.

wowwoweowza,

Oh wait… so I don’t have the same freedom of expression because I was orphaned on 9-11?

Candelestine,

No, just have enough life experience to know when using it makes any sense.

wowwoweowza,

The level of self righteousness here is through the roof.

Life experience: in one day I received more than you ever possibly will. And I pray you never go through what I went through.

Consider me othered.

Candelestine,

Othered from what? Liberal democracy and freedom of speech? Good luck.

wowwoweowza,

I’ve honestly never met more oppressive and less compassionate people than the ones here after I wrote a single comment that showed how brittle all you little babies are when confronted with the complexities of this planet.

Enjoy your funny little worlds.

Candelestine,

Easier to enjoy them when people aren’t trying to shut others down by pretending to get “offended” so easily, and tossing around casual insults when challenged.

wowwoweowza,

When truths are taken for insults, it’s time to find a mirror.

Candelestine,

“truths” belong in holy books. They should stay there.

wowwoweowza,

Welcome to your truth free world. Hope that works out for ya.

janNatan, (edited )

For those of us who were in middle school on 9/11, this is hilarious.

wowwoweowza,

Yeah — I get it.

DmMacniel, (edited )

Jesus… It’s been 22 years. Get over it.

MindSkipperBro12,

Who are you talking to?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Jesus clearly.

otp,

Did he run out of cheeks to turn?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

He’s comeback to clap some.

KrummsHairyBalls,

For most of us who aren’t American, this format is funny.

More people died per day from COVID than this attack. More people have died from gun violence since this attack. America has a ton of problems, stop holding onto this attack so tightly for some reason.

gibmiser,

To me 911 signified a change in the world. My awareness of global politics got supercharged, and the world seemed to turn into shit all of the sudden

Sylver,

Yeah because before then, Americans were still very isolated. The only “bad stuff” going on was across an ocean one way, or an ocean the other way. Suddenly most Americans actually realized they live in a big world that holds more than just America.

ElcaineVolta,
@ElcaineVolta@kbin.social avatar

as an american, or just anyone paying attention; you are spot on.

wowwoweowza,

What are you hanging onto?

Oh, the fantasy that other people’s feelings and opinions don’t matter as much as your own?

GBU_28, (edited )

This is cold pressed lemmy. shlurp it up everyone. Updoots and whatnot

voidMainVoid,

It wasn’t the people who died. It was the fact that the US was attacked by a foreign power.

We can fuck up our own shit fine. But if somebody else is fucking up our shit… then we get salty.

Holzkohlen, (edited )

Unless Russia is rigging elections. That is a-ok, right?
“Rigging elections” may be a bit hyperbolic, but you get the point.

Rawdogg,

The us was complicit in this attack

KeenFlame,

No you don’t. You want to tell yourself, but you get mad at what the media conglomerate tells you to get mad about. You don’t give a fuck that somebody else fucks up your things until it becomes chosen to be popular political rage target then you rage at it

EatYouWell,

It’s been over 22.3 years; we’re allowed to laugh about it now.

WarmSoda,

You think it’s funny boy? Stop laughing rightmeow

GBU_28,

Laugh yes, forget no.

wowwoweowza,

Let me know when your parents get murdered by terrorists and I’ll find it funny too, okay?

OsrsNeedsF2P,

The real terrorists are the ones who went into the Middle East after 9/11

wowwoweowza,

Yeah — that makes sense.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Seems like you’re being sarcastic. Would you like to elaborate how 45,000+ civilian deaths in Afghanistan wasn’t an act of terror?

wowwoweowza,

Actions have consequences.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Ok yup you’re actually just an asshole. Good to know the people who are offended by 9/11 jokes are people who I would prefer to offend.

wowwoweowza,

In other words: murdering 3000 people should surely not have consequences.

If you can’t understand that it does, you’ll be an actual grown up.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Tell me - if a terror attack murdering 3,000 innocent people justifies the murder of 45,000 innocent people, how many terror attacks does the murder of 45,000 innocent people justify?

Your logic is caveman level stupid. Continuously murdering each other’s civilians in the name of payback or consequences will never end.

wowwoweowza,

It’s funny that you being up logic.

It would have mean that you were following the thread.

My claim: The Bush meme template is tasteless.

That’s all I’ve been suggesting.

Reason: living relatives of the thousands of victims find it painful.

Evidence: personal experience

That’s it.

But just to suggest that a meme template that might be offensive to others

Imagine an image of a man raping a woman and he had a joyful smile on his face. The tagline: When I get my final in at 11:59pm and the assignment closes at midnight

Pretty sure some people would find that offensive?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Please name the Afghani people who attacked the U.S. on 9/11. Unless you think those consequences should be killing people who had absolutely nothing to do with it. 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Shouldn’t the consequences have involved Saudi Arabia? As someone who was orphaned by Saudis on 9/11, shouldn’t you be upset that we went to war with Afghanistan and not Saudi Arabia?

wowwoweowza,

It’s a very bizarre rabbit hole.

The Saudiee surely funded Binladen if we are to believe any of the official story.

And it’s regrettable that Bush allowed them to get off the hook.

And later some Saudi prince murdered Jamal Khashoggi.

All shit from beginning to end.

I’m bored as fuck of this conversation.

Use the template or not.

I’m not going to because it’s distasteful to the relatives of the Americans murdered in the attack. You won’t see me using any templates of smart bombs murdering innocent people in Afghanistan or the Middle East because that too would be tasteless.

I’m glad I got under all these little babies skin though. I’m one person with 300 downvotes for a single comment.

What I learned from this is the Lemmy is filled with a bunch brittle fucking crybabies.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You seem to be the one upset here…

wowwoweowza,

I lost my parents in 9/11 and not a single person here had an ounce of sympathy. It was sociopathic.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe because you started out as hostile to everyone long before you said that you lost your parents on 9/11, so you had already spent all of your goodwill.

It’s hard to have sympathy for someone who has been rude to everyone who talks to them.

EatYouWell,

Sure thing. It’s not society’s job to tiptoe around your trauma. That’s for you to deal with.

wowwoweowza,

Wait… no trigger warnings ever? Awesome.

You’re like a snake enjoying a dessert of its own tail.

voidMainVoid,

Yes, it is disturbing that asshole was president.

wowwoweowza,

He stole that election fair and square.

wrath_of_grunge,
@wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social avatar

nah, some of us were making fun of this moment even back then.

wowwoweowza,

It was easy to make fun of for people who hadn’t lost their parents that day.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You have said this at least three times. Did you lose your parents on 9/11 or are you just speaking on behalf of others?

And if you lost your parents on 9/11, I would think you would appreciate people making fun of Bush not doing shit about it for minutes when he should have been out of that room and acting immediately.

GBU_28,

Eh if you watched a tower fall, anywhere, and laughed, probably consider some shit.

Im all in to dark humor but there’s a gulf to laughing at nsfl stuff while it’s happening live.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This is not laughing about the towers falling. This is laughing about the Bush administration’s terrible reaction to it.

KeenFlame,

Nope

ExLisper,

Is 9-11 some Canadian 7-11?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I was an adult on 9/11. I am an American. I watched the second plane hit live on TV.

Bush being told that it happened and sitting there like the moron he is for a long time before excusing himself is not part of the tragedy. It is absolutely something to be mocked. And this is funny.

wowwoweowza,

I was orphaned on that day. It’s not funny for me. But I think it’s okay it’s funny to you. But I think if our positions were reversed you wouldn’t find it quite so funny.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Did you read what I wrote? Because I don’t think you did. The only reason I can think of that you would find mocking George W. Bush on 9/11 offensive is if you voted for him. And if you did, I think we can disregard what you have to say.

wowwoweowza,

I hated him with a passion every single day throughout his entire tenure. Hanging Chad’s?? I opposed the opportunistic invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq so hard I was literally photographed by newspapers.

Smug, self-righteous, and wrong in every way — you have a litmus test for humanity that smells like the mutual admiration society.

I have literally been pepper sprayed my cops at protests against fascism since then.

How dare you.

Honestly, stranger in the internet, you have zero fucking idea.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Hey, it’s not my fault you are castigating people for mocking George W. Bush. That’s what you’re doing and that’s how I dare.

wowwoweowza,

It’s a meme because it’s an iconic moment.

It’s not a person. That’s the whole point of memes.

Sorry to school you in this, but one again, you are wrong.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure George W. Bush is, in fact, a person. And yes, it was an iconic moment. An iconic moment of George W. Bush acting like an idiot and an asshole. Why you think he deserves to be protected from being mocked I don’t know.

wowwoweowza,

Double down all you like. It’s the moment. Enjoy being wrong, brittle, little, sis, white male.

Lobreeze,

It kinda seems like you might be the brittle one here.

wowwoweowza,

And that’s pretty much the ancient schoolyard taunt, “I know you are but what am I?” Pretty sure we’re done here.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Please explain what is offensive about mocking George W. Bush on 9/11. Why does that hurt you? All you can say is 9/11 made you an orphan. That sucks, but it doesn’t explain why you find mocking George W. Bush on 9/11 when he did something extremely stupid and unhelpful is offensive to you. What he did (or rather didn’t do) is the thing that should be offensive to you.

wowwoweowza,

I’ve already said this elsewhere but memes are not associated with the person, they are associated with the moment, concept, idea.

Fuck George Bush — he’s a fucking mass murderer.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Please present evidence that memes are not associated with the person. This sounds like something you just made up.

wowwoweowza,

Not my job

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Got it. You just made it up.

wowwoweowza,

Evidence:

The vast majority of memes are related to niche personalities or even non-famous people or animals…

And even those that are related to someone recognizable… it’s never someone learning about the deaths of 3000 people …

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So there are no memes that are about the people shown in the meme? That’s what you contend?

And here you go defending George W. Bush again…

wowwoweowza,

your move here should have been:

This is just the Murderer Bush learning that the second plane struck. There was no body count at this point.

And that’s true.

Look. Bush is a murder, psychopath and incompetent.

This whole conversation has simply been about the tastelessness that someone who uses this moment as a format takes.

It’s as tasteless as using an image of a raping a woman and having the text be: Me winning the lottery.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You didn’t answer my question.

Telling me what my “move” should have been did not answer my question.

I think the reason you didn’t answer the question is that you can’t support your claim, and thus can’t support the reason you’ve been so indignant and rude to everyone.

wowwoweowza,

There are a million memes. I can’t know about all of them.

As regards to my reply — I was more concerned that you somehow think I’m defending Bush. It’s super weird. Are you okay?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So you can’t know all of them, but you know none of them are about the person in the picture.

Still sounds like you’re making it up.

meliaesc,

If you have sensitives, you should work through them on your own or in counseling. Maybe you’re not ready to view memes/jokes like this one, it’s okay to keep scrolling without sharing your personal trauma. I appreciate your perspective but it is very unique.

wowwoweowza,

Are you ready to view one in which the body of Mathew Shepard is shown dangling from the fence with the words: me at the end of a very hard week

meliaesc, (edited )

If the majority of people would react a certain way, that’s the social norm. Your personal reaction to seeing Bush’s face on 9/11, after 22 years, is just not the norm, nor anyone else’s responsibility. This is not a graphic image, and it was not addressed to you specifically.

wowwoweowza,

So… the majority of people in the South of the USA are racists, fascists, Magaheads. Should we consider that the Norm?

No?

So we cannot use the tiny sample of Lemmings as a norm. Just saying.

meliaesc, (edited )

Norms aren’t right/wrong. You are on lemmy viewing this image, that’s your population. And that’s what you should be considering when offering your perspective.

You’re being so heavily downvoted because people here don’t agree with you. Not that anyone is right/wrong.

wowwoweowza,

Tastelessness is wrong. Trust me.

Uschaan, in Well that's one way to ruin my day

That explains why you smell.

Custoslibera,

It’s flattering you think that’s the reason I smell.

bonn2, in venture capitalism goes brrr

I don’t hate it, but what I do hate is discord still constantly crashes unless I uninstall system web view every fucking time

Anticorp, in venture capitalism goes brrr

As was the style of the time.

Kultronx, in venture capitalism goes brrr
@Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml avatar

there really isn’t much of value on discord to begin with tbh

_dev_null,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

I’ve only ever used it to find pug groups for busted ass games that didn’t have a real in-game option.

LemmyKnowsBest, in oily surrender
BeneGesseritWitch,
@BeneGesseritWitch@sh.itjust.works avatar

That was a good laugh, thanks

Anticorp, in Well that's one way to ruin my day

So you started the load again, and then forgot again.

Turious, in Well that's one way to ruin my day

White vinegar, run them again. All good.

vivadanang,

would add baking soda but yeah, it gets the funk out.

eclectic_electron,

The baking soda will just neutralize the vinegar though? And you’ll get salt water? Vinegar is good at getting smells out though.

PullUpCircuit,

I personally use the vinegar instead, but one or another will do the trick.

But like you said, both at once make salt water, which is less effective at killing germs and removing funk.

vivadanang,

it reacts. I can’t explain the precise chemistry behind the reaction, but it breaks organic deposits / stains / crud and actually gets funky smells out of the wash. works better than any off the shelf product I’ve tried.

vivadanang,

not sure on the precise chemistry involved in the reaction, but it works like a charm for getting stains and smells out of laundry, and takes smells out of counters etc. w/o using harsh chemicals. you should give it a try.

general_kitten,

baking soda+ vinegar makes carbon dioxide, water and sodium acetate

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