Naw it’s a sweet love story with a standard loss ending.
Rose’s motivations are primarily driven by her desire for freedom and independence. She feels trapped by her wealthy but oppressive family and her engagement to the controlling and wealthy Caledon.
She’s looking for a way to escape her life and find her own identity. This leads her to a deep emotional connection with Jack. Her motivations are centered on breaking free from the constraints of her upper-class background and pursuing a life of her own choosing, which ultimately culminates in her decisions and actions throughout the film. He represents everything she’s yearned for.
How dare you combat my dismissive humor with well-said, thoughtful arguments!
I’m gonna upvote your comment, but while I do, I’m gonna be thinking about the words you said and how I’ve also allowed a misogynistic bias cause me to overlook Rose as the three-dimensional character that she is and it’s all your fault!
That said, on that specific night, women were lucky the patriarchy was still in place, as ladies first chivalry, based on the idea that women were objects/property to be cared for rather than individuals who could/should fend for themselves, still applied and well over twice as many women were given seats on lifeboats as men, which would be seen as really patronizing today.
It’s just once they got back home they still weren’t allowed to vote, grow professional careers, get equal access to higher education, own their own property while with a man because of coverture laws, be allowed to play in athletic sports or form leagues, hold any real position of political power, get a divorce easily to escape abusive relationships, allowed to be legally raped by their spouses as much as he wanted while having zero reproductive rights, etc.
Just some give and take for that one day for some unlucky dudes, as you put it.
…it was a tongue-in-cheek reply to the dismissive retort of the person I was responding to…the tone of which was meant to convey the ridiculousness of the statement, which they heavily edited to be far less sexist, to their credit.
Also how would you like me to not recognize the disparity imparted by their “genitals” in a comment discussing how the people with openings for genitals were allowed special treatment at this time, and less so at later times. It’s literally the entire context.
I loved the Pogo comic strip (old shit from the '50s and one of the main influences on Bill Waterson for Calvin and Hobbes) growing up and it gave me the habit of using non-words like “momenterribly”. I know it makes people think I’m a moron and I don’t care.
It also gave me the habit of saying “Friday the 13th fall on a Tuesday this month”. Same effect and same apathy on my part.
If you remember Pogo, look up political novelist Ross Thomas. He was a Washington based reporter for most of the 1950s and started writing fiction in the 1960s. ‘The Fools In Town Are On Our Side’ is about an attempt to clean up a corrupt Southern city by making it so rotten that even the pimps will vote for reform.
Catholic churches have basements with folding tables and chairs and just as much repressed sexuality being expressed through mediocre feats of strength.
if one good thing came out of it, its that there’s now a wider appreciation for mods and how much work they do, as basically a free service. people seem a lot more understanding of slow mod reactions, and can see what happens when that free volunteer force stop doing it. several subs have become a lot worse simply because there arent enough people to keep up, and mods arent blamed as hastily, the community seem to get that its because it’s difficult without motivation & people-power
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