wowwoweowza,

I left.

EherVielleicht,

Congratulations.

wowwoweowza,

You too.

I do sometimes search Lemmy for subs I miss and when I don’t see them I feel sad I do not have time to start and tend them.

I’m coming up on a break and I think I will undertake one or two but if a person doesn’t have time to mod I don’t think they should mod.

quantenzitrone,

im only lurking without an account from time to time

etuomaala, (edited )

<span style="color:#323232;">I still feel a strong pull towards r/worldnews.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">c/world@lemmy.world is juuuust not quite as good,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    content-wise.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">edit:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    !world@lemmy.world
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    Still new to lemmy, lol...
</span>
0x2d,

ah yes c/world@lemmy.world

also why are you typing in codeblocks

dauerstaender,

<span style="color:#323232;">Look there is a peasant beneath us!
</span>
etuomaala,

<span style="color:#323232;">Because
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    it
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        preserves
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            whitespace.
</span>
whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s also pretentious. Just saying lol

etuomaala,

Do you know of another way to preserve white space?

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

Unless you’re typing code why is it important?

etuomaala,

<span style="color:#323232;">It's an experiment I've been trying for about two weeks, now.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I am using whitespace to make written English easier to read.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I put one sentence per line.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Long sentences are broken into multiple lines
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    according to natural breaks in the sentences.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">(I try to aim for an 80 column width.)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Indentation is used to signal the continuation of a sentence.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Basically, I am treating English like a programmer would treat code.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">As an interesting and unexpected corollary,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    the English is much easier to edit, and
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    diffs are way cleaner.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">(I'm editing this in an external dedicated text editor.)
</span>
xetem,
@xetem@pawb.social avatar

Yes, but reading this on moblie is complete and utter ass. Rule 1 of formatting, don’t force others to adhere to your formatting style.

etuomaala,

<span style="color:#323232;">What is this mobile thing of which you speak?
</span><span style="color:#323232;">But seriously, if your screen can't fit 80 columns, then
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    what am I supposed to do about that?
</span><span style="color:#323232;">My phone can do that easily.
</span>
Karyoplasma,

It’s less readable on mobile clients because code blocks don’t linebreak automatically. I have to side-scroll your comments to read them in full, so the only feeling I get from your experiment is slight annoyance.

Raw text preserves whitespaces, so if I wanted them, I’d just show that instead. I don’t get it.

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

And it’s still pretentious AF lol

petrol_sniff_king,

Why is it pretentious?

snugglesthefalse,

The whole air of " I know what’s best for you and you don’t"

petrol_sniff_king,

And what if I found this useful? Wouldn’t you be deciding for me what’s best?

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m special and because of that my comments need to look different than everyone else

Furthermore I’m doing this for reasons you won’t fully understand because I’m cooler than you

It seriously comes across like some autist green text from 4chan. Imagine if you had a buddy that only conversed in Olde English. You still understand them but Jesus Christ.

petrol_sniff_king,

Oh, I get it. You’re just mad.

Never mind, then.

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

Lol you realize we are on The Internet right? They can do them I’m simply stating it’s dumb AF. Anyways, you do you too.

etuomaala,

Can your web browser zoom the text out?

rabbit_wren,

I’m not a programmer, but I think I see what you’re trying to do. I have ADHD and less-than-ideal eyesight. This is easier to read, comprehension-wise, in that I’m not getting “lost” in the text and losing my place and having to re-read paragraphs; but the font you’re using is a little blurrier than the default (I think it’s the serifs) and is a little more difficult for me to physically read. Maybe increasing the font size or changing to a different font would work better?

etuomaala, (edited )

<span style="color:#323232;">Lemmy uses the system default for monospace font.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Try changing the monospace alias in /etc/fonts/local.conf:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Font_configuration/Examples#Default_fonts
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">That's for system-wide effect.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">For just firefox, go to Settings > General > Fonts > Advanced and
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    change the default Monospace font to a monospace font you like.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Source Code Pro and DejaVu Sans Mono are both very good.
</span>
Daefsdeda,

I find it amusing, thank you

petrol_sniff_king,

The 80-column width, as some have pointed out, can’t really be counted on, unfortunately. But I think this is neat. Reminds me of greentext.

I might try something like this in my own notes for work.

etuomaala,

What is greentext?

eltimablo,

In what way do you consider it easier to read raw HTML than it is to read properly-formatted text? This text displays all of its tags on kbin and it's a nightmare to read.

etuomaala,

<span style="color:#323232;">That's a problem with kbin, then.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">There are no tags in lemmy.
</span>
etuomaala,

<span style="color:#323232;">Aw, gross.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">kbin is written in php.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Thanks, but no thanks, lol.
</span>
Zoop,

Why are you wanting to preserve white space in your comments? Maybe it’s just how it shows up on my screen, but I’m not seeing or understanding why or what the usage was in your initial comment here, or what the benefit was.

To be clear, I’m not judging or anything, especially since it’s not like you’re hurting anyone! Ultimately, you do yo thang! I’m just curious and interested to understand where you’re coming from. Is it just for funsies?

snugglesthefalse,

Meanwhile I’m here on dark mode and none of you have any white space so it clearly doesn’t work

imgprojts,

Okay how did you make the text Like that?

etuomaala,

Start and stop the message with three backticks on a line on their own:


This stuff gets rendered in fixed width with preserved whitespace.

veniasilente,

As per usual, it’s a matter of content.

I can’t (and shouldn’t have to) carry the entire weight of a fandom on my shoulders. Until there’s more activity here on those subjects, I have to at least keep an eye on Reddit.

What I always do when I can however, is I try to do POSEO to raise awareness: by which I mean, I post my opinions or ideas or stories in my own site (or in my Masto main) first, and only crosslink on Reddit. I was thinking of doing the same with reply comments as well, but dunno how much would that promote interaction.

Junesong,

Fandoms have trouble here as well. Take something like baseball. There are so many communities to follow across instances that even if a Fandom has a following, it’s fragmented across multiple sites.

Polar,

It’s also the toxic community.

I was called a racist and holocaust denier because I asked someone how they expect YouTube servers to be paid for if you refuse to pay for premium, and don’t want to watch ads.

My comments were downvoted like crazy, and the person who called me a racist holocaust denier was upvoted…

Again, all because I asked a question about how servers should be paid for. What the actual fuck? Reddit is insanely toxic, but Lemmy takes the cake.

starelfsc2,

ibb.co/pvk0HWvibb.co/bsPRfyZibb.co/0Mxd8rrYou were being a smartass and then got one-guyed. The community on lemmy seems generally positive with a few crazies, just like everywhere.

Look in that thread and there are plenty of people who ask “how will youtube keep the servers up without ads though?” with reasonable responses such as: torrent-esque video sharing people donating to creators and youtube taking a cut or reasonable issues like: ads cause me a lot of stress and I am not wealthy, does this mean I can never watch a video again? Or read an article or see any online content? Not wanting to support billion dollar megacorps

Getting responded to in kind by 1 guy is not a toxic community, everywhere I’ve seen people ask a question in a normal way 99% of the time they get normal responses

Polar,

Yes, because calling me a racist Holocaust denier, and having those comments upvoted is very non toxic.

It takes other users to upvote those comments.

ursakhiin,

:note: I know this isn’t the point of your comment but I wanted you to be able to have a non-insulting conversation on the topic.

Premium is more than it should be and ads on YouTube arent handled very well i.e. Obnoxious

I watch adless on my phone, but still use the default app to stream to my TV and generally let the ads play through.

23 dollars a month for 2 people on a family plan is just nuts, though. If they had a 2 person option that was like 17-18 then I’d probably get it.

Polar,

I agree that the pricing doesn’t make sense unless you can split it, which is what I do.

Premium is $25 in Canada. You can add 5 people to your plan. That makes it $5 per month for each of us.

Personally I don’t buy cable or satellite TV, so I get most of my enjoyment from YouTube. So to me $5 per month is nothing, especially if you have something like Spotify which you can cancel and use YouTube Music, which is included in that $5.

If you have no friends and you’re the only one footing the bill, I agree that the pricing is a lot. At that point you just have to deal with the annoying ads.

I hate ads as much as anyone, but my question still remains for anyone who demands on blocking all ads and refusing to pay for premium, how do you expect servers and creators to be paid?

I know Google can technically afford it, but that’s not how businesses are run. You can’t take profits from one department to make up for the losses in another department, and as we know bandwidth is extremely expensive, and Google hosts an unbelievable amount of data, and free, too.

Like I’ve mentioned in the past, I have a bunch of videos uploaded to YouTube to share with family, and they are all private. Therefore Google is paying to store my videos, while making $0 from them, as they are not public and making any ad revenue.

I also know that Google is bad. Corporations suck. All that jazz. I just don’t understand why most of Lemmy users think everything should be free, but when asked about how these things are supposed to get funded, they go silent.

Lemmy itself won’t be around long if users refuse to donate to their instance, and refuse to view ads. Even if someone is hosting an instance in their basement, the cost of internet, replacement drives, maintenance, and electricity all add up.

veniasilente,

I hate ads as much as anyone, but my question still remains for anyone who demands on blocking all ads and refusing to pay for premium, how do you expect servers and creators to be paid?

I’m pretty sure it’s 2023 and this has already been discussed and solved ad nauseam, so I’m also sure all I’m going to say here is just repeated from elsewhere, but:

First of all, “creators” (not artists! There’s a semantic difference) are not going to get paid better just because you pay for YT Premium. Premium pays Youtube, not the creators pleading not to be demonetized. If you’re asking how are creators going to be paid, the answer is simple: directly. If you set up a service without intermediaries, for example a direct wire transfer, or at least something close to it like a Patreon, you get all of the coins and people who want to pay you-but-not-Youtube (or whatever platform) face a better incentive.

Second, stuff like gift cards.

Third, and this is something I’ve never seen any naysayer deal with properly: the same methods that have existed before can still work now. I don’t remember ever paying rent for Usenet, or IRC, or BBSes, yet those things were literally plentiful, if I so much as lifted a rock in a cropped 8-bit-color grayscale PNG, the tranparency layer had a link to a BBS. And part of the issue is that there’s a “attention deficit oooh shiny syndrome” going on where instead of using vintage-timer, battle-tested, lightweight, low dependency, cheap payment, low maintenance protocols and services for ensuring persistence and continuation of communities, we are for some weird reason insisting that whatever community launches next is a Perfect Imitation fo Youtube, or else. Such is the case of Matrix: for all its promises, IRC and XMPP are much better battle-tested and for the monthly price (and monthly annoyance) of 1 Matrix server you can run about 25 XMPP servers, or likely over 300 IRC servers.

And the key here is that it’s the devs who have to take the turn return towards simpler, better tech. Devs gotta lead by example. Users (masses of) are obviously not going to be the ones to do it.

Polar,

Creators can see how much they make from premium subscribers vs ad views. They do make more from people who pay for premium.

Why do you say they don’t? Like I’m curious where you got that from, when it’s blatantly wrong?

whatwhatwutyut,

As someone who rarely ever uses YouTube, $25 would be fucking bonkers to pay monthly for no ads. Imo a decent idea to explore would be x amount of minutes that are ad free per month, then after you hit that limit you get given ads. You’d have to be signed into an account, any instances with no account logged in get ads by default.

Another idea is to add lower tiers to the available plans. 5 people can sign in on the current option? Is there a cheaper plan that only allows linking 1 account? This could even tie in with the previous idea and have certain plans that give you x minutes of watching adless per month.

I’m sure there are plenty of other options out there. In fact I wouldn’t be bothered having to watch an ad before a video (or a midroll in a longer video) but the experiences I’ve had with using YouTube frequently involve me pulling up a certain scene within a movie or something and getting 2-3 ads that are a minute long each, unskippable, and potentially midrolls in there if the video is over 5 minutes. It just makes me close the video and think “yeah fuck that, I don’t need to watch that scene anymore”.

Overall point: the ads would be fine if they weren’t so excessive and intrusive

ursakhiin,

There is a cheaper option for just a single account. 13.99 in the US. I think that’s a reasonable price and would pay it if it was just me. I just wish there was an option between 1 person and a whole family.

Arcka,

as we know bandwidth is extremely expensive

No. You very obviously don’t know how bandwidth is handled for large providers. They don’t pay per gb, and instead have peering agreements with other networks. Google generally doesn’t have to pay these other networks, as Google has the web applications that the other networks’ customers expect to be able to use.

Polar,

Sorry I meant storage, which was apparent by my following sentence “and Google hosts an unbelievable amount of data”

eltimablo,

Peering agreements are in no way free no matter what company you work for, what the hell are you on about?

XiELEd,
@XiELEd@lemmy.world avatar

Wow they sound like they came straight out of Twitter. Though one reason why I use FOSS and barely donate is because our currency isn’t that powerful. I see it in the way people say that self-hosted is cheap (probably from Europe or America) but it’s actually crazy expensive for me (Philippines). Our average monthly income is around 400$. Even if I were to donate a substantial part of it, anyone in the first world would barely gain anything and I would have lots to lose. Unless if they’re from another developing country.

PurplePropagule,

Even if you barely donate, you’re donating more than most users. Everyone should help in whatever capacity they can and there isn’t any shame in not being able to contribute as much as others. I’d love to see how many donations some of the FOSS purists here make haha. I bet a lot of the real toxic FOSS bros don’t contribute anything.

Serpardum,

I may protest the cost of groceries, but I still buy groceries.

And I’m finding the exact same type of BS here on Lemmy as I do on Reddit.

applebusch,

Holy false equivalence Batman. You don’t need reddit to live…

Serpardum,

You can grow your own food, can you not, Robin?

phoenixz,

Not entirely the same. We don’t have a apex dictator here

eltimablo,

Honestly, I've found Lemmy to be generally worse than Reddit since it seems to be where all the banned redditors go once people get sick of their shit.

Shameless,

Unfortunately it only happens in waves… It just has to be inconvenient enough for people to put in the effort to move to lemmy

governorkeagan,

If more subreddits moved over it might make people more willing to move over as well.

hydrospanner,

Unfortunately, the community here is worse too.

So there’s two big immediate strikes against moving from Reddit to Lemmy: your favorite niche subs aren’t here and the community is, somehow, worse.

For many people that’s enough. For most of the rest, it only takes one or two other negatives to convince them that this isn’t a reddit replacement.

XbSuper,

Only reason I’m not back on Reddit is their garbage app. If they fixed that I’d ditch Lemmy immediately. The community really is worse here, no matter how much they want to claim it’s better.

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Define worse? I generally find most interactions to be mostly pleasant.

TurboDiesel,
@TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

Just don’t mention any software that isn’t FOSS. Ever.

Cold_Brew_Enema,

Agreed.

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governorkeagan,

Same here. The communities I’ve interacted with here, if I was on the equivalent subreddit, I’d have be downvoted to hell for not knowing enough. I find I’m able to have proper discussions here

XbSuper,

People here will attack you for having a slightly different viewpoint than the status quo, which I can’t really even figure out. It feels like a tight knit clique, and I’m not a part of it. Often times I just don’t comment on things, because I expect to get downvotes and made fun of.

Micromot,

From what I have seen if you explain your viewpoint people usually tell you why they disagree and you can argue with them as long as you stay respectful.

Jaderick,

That’s been the opposite of my experience here on Lemmy and the exact thing I’m experiencing more and more on Reddit.

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

Likewise. I guess when you hang out on the equivalent of c/denofvipers you shouldn’t expect a terribly friendly community. Don’t like the community? Find a different one! Found your own if you have to!

TheDarkKnight,

Yeah it fucking sucks. Every response is political and hyper hostile, like damn I get it capitalism and the USA have caused some issues but man I am just asking about Taco Bell’s new menu item.

Tried posting about an obscure issue with the latest Steam Deck update and oh my god 1) I was attacked for being wrong, Valve doesn’t make mistakes ever and 2) I don’t understand how dev pipelines work (I work in IT dev for a Fortune 100 company haha)

Posted the same thing on Reddit and the response was like hey thanks for the heads up and then helped people affected by the issue get to resolution.

Lemmy as a community truly is super fucking bitter and it sucks. Hope it changes, Fediverse is a cool idea and I am so down for a Reddit replacement but not if it is gonna be an asshole factory.

Moxvallix,
@Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’m sorry, but your comments on the Steam Deck post certainly did not help with the hostility, as you were being quite hostile yourself.

In that post, one person made a snarky retort, and clearly you were understandably upset, but I would argue a good chunk of the hostility in that post comes from you. I think possibly even just starting the post with the title containing “basically bricked my deck” is already framing the discussion in a somewhat inflammatory manner.

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

This guy is very hostile up and down this thread. I wonder why he receives so much in return that he characterizes an entire platform?

TheDarkKnight,

Pretty normal to get hostile when someone gets hostile with you. Exact opposite reaction on the same Reddit thread, underscoring the point that OP is making.

Haus,
@Haus@kbin.social avatar

With the rate that Musk is destroying Twitter, Spez is surely going to have another grand fuckup soon.

mammut,

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  • WYLD_STALLYNS,
    @WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    What can you expect from a man who has sex with busty lasagna loving cats. https://i.imgur.com/dPgegEr.jpg

    incendiaryperihelion,

    I’m doing my part! insert starship troopers gif here idk im tech illiterate

    Afghaniscran,
    iamjackflack,

    Would you like to know more?

    perishthethought,

    I would like to know if that little kid was really in the movie or was added later.

    incendiaryperihelion,

    I definitely recall them being in that scene, but ive seen the gif so many times that it could be retroactively editing my shit

    perishthethought,
    Hyggyldy,

    A lot of subs never really got a foothold outside of Reddit. I tried to do what I could and I’m still trying my best but I’m only one guy and I’m not good at making content. Barely anyone from the BrandoSando subs came, the incremental games community gave up before it even started, no community that I know has had a successful offshoot in the fediverse.

    _number8_,

    yeah, the sheer breadth of obscure topics that were able to form a sizeable enough group on reddit is so fragile and special and hard to replicate. such a shame.

    trafguy,

    Never been part of that community personally, but thanks for helping to support the platform. Even if you’re not seeing much traction, it’s appreciated. What would you think of picking the most engaging Reddit content and migrate it here to help boost community size? Or maybe posting to Reddit with a watermark/credit leading to your Lemmy community?

    altima_neo, (edited )
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Same with a lot of the subs I was at on Reddit. Stable Diffusion is no where near as active as Reddit’s.

    Xtallll,
    @Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Reddit didn’t start that specific, the best thing to grow Lemmy is be active in broad communities, not brandosando but books. When books grows large enough then a sanderverse community can be spun off, but trying to be over specialized just dilutes the users into small inactive communities.

    Hyggyldy,

    I think that’s a very good point.

    deus,

    Lol it took me way too long to realize you guys were talking about Brandon Sanderson

    Hyggyldy,

    Actually we’re enthusiasts of both Marlon Brando and sandwiches.

    mkhopper,
    @mkhopper@lemmy.world avatar

    This right here. Reddit started with very general based topics and only later did smaller niche subs take off.

    Lemmy will get there. It’s just a matter of time and it’s only been a few months since the Great Reddit Migration of '23.
    By this time next year, or maybe 18 months out, once instances become normalized and settled, with user tools to help find and organize them, Lemmy will then start to cause large dents in Reddit’s user base.

    fine_feline,

    I was a frequent visitor of the BrandoSando subs. I just haven’t found anything over here, though. Got any links? I’ll join up and try to contribute, but I’m like you. I’m not great or consistent in content creating either.

    Hyggyldy,

    It’s on sffa.community. But that’s another problem. I think a lot of communities besides the main ones on here thought they’d just make a community and people would start posting. They didn’t post anything to bring people in and they didn’t know to go federate their community with other instances. The most active communities here are, !sffgaming, which is me, !brandonsanderson, !imaginarycosmere, and !cosmere .

    fine_feline,

    Thank you! My biggest issue has been I just don’t know how to look for them. I’ve tried searches, but I’m still searching like I would for a subreddit.

    Hyggyldy,

    Yeah, it can be tricky. This is probably one of the biggest issues with the fediverse.

    Mamertine, (edited )

    My search results keep wanting me to go to Reddit. I’m trying to avoid it, but it keeps calling.

    I’m not scrolling there like I did before the “Spez killed the 3rd party app migration”. I miss the level of engagement and ease of finding communities. Lemmy is decent, but the post volume is lacking. If I scroll new now, and again 12 hours later, there’s not much new stuff before I see the stuff from last time.

    Stumblinbear,
    @Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

    I remember when there was a huge amount of complaints when Reddit updated and the top posts started cycling multiple times per day (or per hour) instead of hanging around most of the day

    gamermanh, (edited )
    @gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I dunno, I browse every 2 or so hours at work at while yeah I’ll find some of the same stuff, the vast majority of my scrolling is new

    variants,

    Because everyone is only half in and going to Reddit still like crack addicts

    sock,

    bros talking like we’re fighting some kind of battle my man ur browsing short form content on the internet calm down

    ur not better than anyone and nobody is better than you while yall be death scrolling this brain rot

    variants,

    I just want non monetized media to survive in the future. not everything has to be designed to be addictive and for profit so it’s just sad that people couldn’t hold out from reddit long enough to make a difference or just plain don’t care

    sock,

    you care because youre a reddit addict

    shit i care because im a reddit addict from rif

    a lot of folks just use the app for their content and its not really that deep, its an unnoticeable change if you werent using 3rd party stuff anyways

    though im not sure why people still like the app, its attrocius but then again people liked apollo and apple products for some reason and them hoes ugly asf interfaces too

    Wiithout sugar coating it, lemmy sucks (for viewing content like reddit. discussion is a bit better on lemmy kinda). theres no active niche communities and the only content is about israel and linux. the porn sucks too its just pictures so lemmy isnt a very attractive place for reddit people.

    theangryseal,

    Not everyone.

    If sit down at my desk and use my pc I’ll click the old Reddit bookmark and go on for about 5 minutes. That has only happened about 3 times since Apollo shut down. I almost exclusively used my phone for Reddit before that. Now I bounce between Voyager and YouTube. YouTube for background noise while I’m working, Voyager when I’m idle.

    Klystron,

    Don’t speak for me boyo, I’m 110 days clean

    Imgonnatrythis,

    Try Kagi. I’m totally hooked. It’s a refreshing search experience and you can rank reddit as a lower level site so it can still come up, but less likely to be at the top of your search list all the time.

    sleeperdouge,

    I have a similar experience, only visiting reddit for stuff like tech problems and very niche communities. I had never willingly visited the reddit homepage since.

    There are a lot of posts now on lemmy compared to before the reddit fiasco but is not like the activity on reddit. The good thing though is that it made me stop my habit of mindlessly scrolling through endless content.

    meekah,
    @meekah@lemmy.world avatar

    yeah having switched to linux recently it’s pretty much impossible to go without reddit. sure, superuser and generally linux forums do have a bunch of answers, but a lot are on reddit as well.

    sol87,

    Too many top linux answers are gone now and i dont really find reddit very usefull for finding answers to linux problems anymore unless its a brand new problem with alot of people suddenly posting about it.

    meekah,
    @meekah@lemmy.world avatar

    IDK, I just know I had to visit reddit quite a few times when googling linux stuff. maybe it’s because I’m still new and looking for relatively basic stuff

    InputZero,

    Naw fam, I’ve been using Linux for years and I still goto Reddit threads for problem solving. I’m not like a guru or anything but I’m not new. I’ll try other sources first but I have no problem going to Reddit second.

    jaybone,

    I still find most Linux answers on SO.

    It’s pretty rare that a search leads me to Reddit, though it does happen on rare occasion.

    What distro(s) are you searching for that lead you to Reddit?

    WYLD_STALLYNS,
    @WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Curious what distro’s myself. Though makes me think that there should be a distro suggestion for new Linux here.

    LainOfTheWired,
    @LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

    I left reddit after a few weeks of getting any useful info off my saved list. Honesty I’ve been happier these last couple months. Now I only visit reddit( with an ad blocker, because they ain’t making a penny off me) to read help and old opinion threads when I need the info.

    snipvoid,

    Haven’t logged in since Apollo stopped working. old.reddit + every ad blocked. May they slowly decay, someday existing in archive alone.

    Harpsist,

    The guy that invented steel had to live and breath iron in order to create change.

    Its not wrong to still use the old ways.

    Hell. I hear some people still use the imperial system. Lol.

    kosanovskiy,

    Because I still need it to access older repair guides and ask people on fixing stuff from cars and household things to study material and that community simply isn’t as big here. I use lemmy with boost much more but I still use some services on reddit outside of that nothing else to do on there. So no need to judge, you are expecting a 5m community to have as much information and technical knowhow as a 150m user base. You can have a ferarri 458 you occasionally use when needed for the track ay and still daily a toyota prius.

    qwertyqwertyqwerty,

    It doesn’t matter how many people or what kind of people moved from Reddit. I was there 14 years (Digg 4.0 exile here). They have a new group of people now. My wife and kids now use Reddit, but it’s not the same type of user interaction I experienced there in the past. It’s very much a mix of scrolling through TikTok videos and sparse reading of comments on an /r/askreddit thread. It’s casual browsing and video content. There are still some holdouts, which I think mostly contribute to what’s left of the comment section, but that’s it. It sucks, because I miss the discussions there. Lemmy kind of scratches that itch, but the content is slow to come in, and the comments so few. I’m doing my part, and I am much more active here than I ever was on Reddit.

    Frog-Brawler,
    @Frog-Brawler@kbin.social avatar

    Yea I remember it went to shit around 2018 or somewhere there about. I had been hoping for a viable alternative for a while. I should thank Spez in retrospect.

    qwertyqwertyqwerty,

    I mean, it’s kind of always been shit, but it was “our” shit. Now it’s a different crowd, and their “shit”. I don’t want to deal with their “shit”, so I don’t really go there anymore and treat it like Ravenholm.

    GalacticCmdr,

    Fellow Digg exile, previous Fark, previous Slashdot, etc.

    I still go back to Reddit for several niche groups that just don’t have enough users to transition - would likely disappear if people moved elsewhere (Lemmy or Discord)

    fluxion,

    Wasn’t Digg 2.0 the time of the Great Exodus? Or has my memory of these arcane events become clouded throughout the eons of enshittification?

    qwertyqwertyqwerty,

    It was v4.

    Ser_Salty,

    I was on reddit a couple times past couple of days for some specific purposes (like looking up Minecraft seeds). Checked the front page and stuff out of curiosity and I genuinely don’t know if the content was already as bad when I left or if Lemmy just gave me new standards or something, but Jesus Christ. It’s all just ragebait and TikTok reposts, even though everyone on reddit always claims to hate TikTok. It’s like if you collected all the lowest tier posts from every other site and then gathered them in one.

    Speculater,
    @Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

    Same thing for me here, so much rage bait. I was asking a specific question on Google and a reddit post had a very good answer, curiosity sent me to r/all and it is so clearly meant to get under your skin.

    fadingembers,
    @fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    That’s why I could never get into Twitter because no matter how much I tried to curate my feed, it would inevitably start pushing rage bait

    qwertyqwertyqwerty,

    It’s all “TikTok” now. I see TikTok, YT Shorts, Reddit video clips, Facebook video clips, IG video clips, etc. They are all TikTok in my head, and I don’t care enough to check them each out to differentiate between them and change my mind. This must be what getting old feels like.

    SheDiceToday,

    It’s interesting to me. We saw a similar evolution in facebook, where it went from silly posts about your status, to image posts that people argued over, and now (as I saw when I visited my aging mother) it’s just an endless scrolling of short videos.

    Ser_Salty,

    They all repost to each other anyway. Some creators will just post directly to several of them, but there’s also entire content factories designed around stealing other peoples creative works and reposting them on a different platform.

    Agent641,

    Ill never understand the appeal of short form video. I watch YT for episodic content ~10-20 mins or deep tutorials about some niche technical thing Im doing or interested in doing

    scrubbles,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    Exactly how I felt there too. Reddit was different. It wasn’t the place where you could come and chat with strangers about things you enjoy, even the most positive subs were littered with spam and comments usually devolved into arguments.

    Not saying it didn’t happen here but the vibe is for sure better. Haven’t logged into my reddit account since spez killed Sync.

    qwertyqwertyqwerty,

    I deleted my account and its contents. Though it was Apollo for me instead of Sync.

    Amilo159,
    @Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

    Lenmy is brilliant as platform and concept, but the truth is it simply can’t compare to Reddit where there are 1000x more user and 100x more comments/activity.

    Alcatorda,

    Maybe I am part of that new group? I’m just here for the memes. Lemmy is amusement for me and a way to kill some time. If I want to have deep or meaningful discussions I’ll talk to people I actually know (and then I’ll also know I’m not wasting my time arguing with a troll). The “casual browsing” content is also lower quality here than on Reddit, but I can’t complain, because I don’t really contribute, I just lurk.

    rwhitisissle,

    IMO the quality of discussion here is about the same on reddit. Which is to say, not very good, or very deep. It’s shallow observations, memes, and one liner gut reactions to headlines. People have been conditioned over the past decade to not engage with long replies or complex thoughts. It might have to do with social media becoming more or less defined by people engaging with it on mobile devices, which don’t really enable that sort of engagement. But it might also be people genuinely not giving a shit anymore and only wanting that minor degree of superficial interaction.

    usualsuspect191,

    Yeah I’ve seen some pretty benign comments get downvoted to hell here on Lemmy if they’re even just a tiny bit out of line from the consensus which is no better than Reddit.

    SheDiceToday,

    People have been conditioned over the past decade to not engage with long replies or complex thoughts

    I think this has two parts. One, it’s just so easy for any long/complex comment to attract ‘attacks’ that will target some small minutia. The internet in general seems to find pedantry of grammar and small inconsistencies (in an allegory, for instance, which is not supposed to be an exact match for the tale it’s telling) to be the height of humor and the best way to ‘counter’ an argument.

    Second, I think people in general are more demanding of having their space be as comfortable and similar to them as possible. My friends of nearly three decades and I have plenty of things we disagree about, and even argue about, but it seems as if differences are no longer accepted. Let’s pick a common and slightly humorous one from Lemmy: if you and I were to disagree about the extent of how evil a conservative is (not even that they are evil, or do evil, or whatever else), one or the other of us would be blocking the other, haranguing the moral turpitude that is said different belief, etc.

    It combines to make anything but short, bland or ‘act like they are acting’ comments a headache to actually post. I’ve found myself typing up a response to a biology article somebody had posted, and eventually just hit the cancel button because it wasn’t worth the bother.

    Krauerking,

    The people that think they are being clever by ignoring the entire conversation and just responding with Strawman! or Ha! You misspelled that so you don’t know what you are talking about! offer so little to actual conversation that they don’t even realize why no one wants to talk to them. They seem like they are just repeating what they saw people before them do without awareness or understanding of why or even what their words mean.

    The internet is such a microbubbled place now. Each niche divided and divided again so that everyone can have exactly what they want and nothing more or less until each of them might as well be a homunculus living as a single entity if wasn’t for the ability for someone to advertise or sell a product to that group.

    I thought it is good if everyone has their own specific thing but we still need to be able to interact as a whole, and that generalized communication is a dying skill apparently. Or maybe we are just to many steps away from the original products that the internet is becoming full of Cargo Cults that just copy without reason… I dunno.

    Jaderick,

    I get better responses here on Lemmy with my longer replies, which is great. Reddit feels overall dumber now where people will try and argue that your comment with sources is somehow less compelling than someone else’s sourceless opinion (true story).

    I’m having far better interactions on Lemmy.

    CoolBeance,
    @CoolBeance@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve had the same experiences actually. It’s also a lot more common (at least from what I’ve experienced) to find people being more composed here even in the face of some divisive or provocative content.

    Tyfud,

    Same. I’ve had mostly positive interactions with Lemmy. The content is slow to come in, but more enjoyable to read and interact with

    jballs,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    My favorite thing about Lemmy is that you can comment on an article that’s several hours old and get responses. Reddit was so big that if you didn’t comment on major articles within a couple minutes of being posted, your comment would get buried under a thousand other comments and would never be seen. Commenting became a game of which top level comment you could possibly sneak your comment as a response to, even if it wasn’t really a “response” to what the person had said, just to get your comment seen and have a chance at sparking a discussion.

    Hubi,

    Have you been on reddit recently? The average discussion on Lemmy may not be super deep, but the comment sections of larger reddit threads have become downright painful to read. It honestly feels like every negative cliché about reddit has been dialed up to eleven.

    variants,

    There’s just so much content now a days it’s easier to just not comment to a reply and move on, where when I was on forums it was the main thing to do because there wouldn’t be so many posts

    balderdash9,

    I think you’re right. And if anyone wants to give a deep/thoughtful comment it often feels like swimming upstream. Nuances are ignored and people will just downvote you if they think you’re disagreeing with them (even if disagreement is only partial).

    fishos, (edited )
    @fishos@lemmy.world avatar

    I think it has a lot to do with longer messages seeming “elitist” in addition to the tendency of trolls to find one phrase they don’t like and derail the entire topic over it. You write 3 paragraphs, most don’t read past the first sentence and vote based on that, and some troll starts nitpicking your use of “us” vs “we” instead of the actual topic. Over time you see putting the effort into a comment as pointless or outright adversarial, and you stop. It’s the trolls and the low effort people that make having quality conversations frustrating. Not trying to gatekeep, but I firmly believe that once a site becomes popular enough that all the “Lowest Common Denominators” join, quality drops. The signal to noise ratio just becomes too much. Popularity is a death sentence on the Internet.

    mcmoor,

    Also there’s this legit tactic en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop that sometimes is employed by the trolls themselves to basically DDoS people. Preferring shorter comments at all become a legit behavior if there’s too many comments like that. If there’s long af comment, usually I’d like to see the replies or upvotes first to defend against that.

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly, the worst thing about Lemmy is Lemmy users thinking it’s better than Reddit simply by the virtue of it not being Reddit.

    The platform? Yes, absolutely, a much better solution with built in checks and balances to stop one greedy company eating everyone’s lunch.

    The content? It’s identical! (Bar a few cosplay communists that stir up drama occasionally). And some things are significantly worse like the quality of content curation and moderation.

    For every person writing an “ugh you must be a Redditor”/“I thought I left this behind on Reddit” type comment,I bet there are many more people rolling their eyes and at least a few of them that end up abandoning the platform entirely.

    balderdash9,

    Also let’s not forget that Reddit has duration as an advantage. I can look back 10 years on a tv show that is no longer airing and there will still be discussion threads from when it came out. That’s literally impossible to manufacture overnight, so Reddit has a huge edge.

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s fine so long as we’re admitting it does. Reddit having a huge edge and everyone acting like it doesn’t is just setting up new users for disappointment.

    Krauerking,

    For every person writing an “ugh you must be a Redditor”/“I thought I left this behind on Reddit” type comment

    Oh my God right? This bull shit.

    I want to like lemmy because I don’t want to support a web platform that so clearly thinks so little of its users and aims for monetization that involves literally just paying for comments you want to hear.

    But this self assured that lemmy is the hottest shit stuff needs to cool off. I mean look at who started this platform and the large communities of people with super simplified garbage takes on anything with an iota of complexity and you realize that people here just want to be superior without doing anything superior. But that is a great way to be lonely forever.

    Pipoca,

    Reddit very much depends on the subreddits you subscribe to.

    Browsing /r/askhistorians or /r/programming isn’t really the same experience as r/memes or whatever. Not logging in to reddit makes it way worse since you only see the popular low-effort threads instead of better niche content.

    qwertyqwertyqwerty,

    Right. And to my point, newer users are doing the latter.

    Dirk,
    @Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s actually pretty funny how many discussions about Reddit, Twitter, and Threads happening in the Fediverse.

    I just deleted my Reddit account a few months ago (and my Twitter account years ago) and I don’t think I miss anything.

    chiliedogg,

    I miss reddit every day. The niche communities were large enough there to have content.

    I said I’d leave at the end of June if they went through with the API changes bc and I did. But of they reversed course today I’d absolutely go back instantly.

    tdawg,

    The good news is now you get to help establish those communities you once loved

    imgprojts,

    Exactly! Beautiful statement! 👍👍👍

    dauerstaender,

    Nah, for me Reddit made me understand centralization in exchange for niche communities isn’t worth the trade offs that vom with it. I’d rather start new communities on Lemmy than going back to Reddit. I do miss r/rimjobsteve though

    petrol_sniff_king,

    This whole reddit thing has made me want more FOSS in my life in general.

    Not that I didn’t understand monopolies to begin with, but Reddit and Unity and Twitter and Google searches with 25 useless SEO AI-articles that explain nothing and ads and ads and ads and ads and ads; it’s just gotten exhausting.

    cheery_coffee,

    I’ve actually just found myself doing more stuff since I quit reddit.

    Pika,

    same tbh lol, I only lost the tales from reddits but like those were usually toxic anyway at times.

    cheery_coffee,

    I miss the hell out of my Twitter feed.

    It’s dead though, half my community left but it really broke up the network.

    RatzChatsubo,

    Lemmy will dethrone reddit once you are able to google a question and the Lemmy link is at the top as opposed to reddit

    rustydrd,
    @rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Even then, Reddit has accumulated so much technical advice over the years, I hope I can still find archived posts this way, if ever it truly does crash and burn.

    RatzChatsubo,

    What’s stopping someone from just copying the reddit history and building that knowledge base as under the hood of Lemmy?

    DannyMac,
    @DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

    Whelp, better get to asking questions… Someone ask me a question to an answer someone may want to search for

    SaltyIceteaMaker,

    What’s Ligma?

    Shea,

    Ligma baaawwllls lmao goddim

    SaltyIceteaMaker,

    Oh nooooo ya gawt me😭

    AhismaMiasma,

    I’ll start with something wholesome:

    What’s the best way to make someone smile?

    Shea,

    Apply your thumbs in an upward motion to the corners of their mouth. Use force if necessary

    flansyrup,

    Punch someone they hate.

    xsh,

    Just punch Trump then. This will make a lot of people smile.

    Shea,

    I’m the leftest leftist ever to left but had to downvote for such low effort

    if_only,

    What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

    SARGEx117,

    African, or European?

    if_only,

    Well I don’t know that

    Facebones,

    sproing

    SnowBunting,

    Is there anyway to control how high I want my android phone to charge? I would like to set it to 90%.

    DannyMac,
    @DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

    Not without rooting it or the manufacturer including a custom option for it, but if it has adaptive charging, you can set an alarm and it will charge the phone up to 80% and then wait to charge it the rest of the way to coincide with the alarm so that it isn’t at 100% for a long time.

    interdimensionalmeme,

    I was so insulted when I realized I could never root my phone. Fuck Verizon!

    Shea,

    Samsung phones have an option in the battery settings called “charge protection” and it makes your phone stop charging at 85%. Look through your battery settings to see if you have a similar option.

    Someone64,

    If you have root you may want to use something called ACC (Advanced Charging Controller). You can use its official app, ACCA, to install it. Very customizable.

    Schnitzel_bub,
    @Schnitzel_bub@lemmy.ml avatar

    Why is my poop green?

    DannyMac,
    @DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

    Your poop is green because you consumed something with food coloring in it.

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    Reddit also had the ability to just type in my address bar “/r/obscurefandom” and be taken directly to the subreddit for it. Lemmy doesn’t have those smaller subs yet and you have to hunt for the right instance if it does.

    pingveno,

    Even TV shows that have been off air for a decade often have a thriving community. Merlin, the BBC show, has several posts per day. Similarly with Smallville. Lemmy’s communities are smaller and tend to be broken up across instances.

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    Reddit will have active subs for specific board games. The general board games magazine on Lemmy has 1 post a month.

    So ya, if I want to read comments on the latest episode of Loki to see what things people picked up on that I missed Reddit is currently the only place to find that.

    mkrup,

    I feel like there needs to be instance aggregation for Lemmy to really work in the long run (and really this is probably true of the fediverse in general). Having to add communities across multiple instances, and not being able to browse them in a centralized way, really detracts from the experience. On Reddit, I subbed to the stuff I wanted and just lived off that feed. With Lemmy, I feel like I have to stay in unfiltered view to get anything of interest–the fragmented niche communities are just too limiting.

    IMALlama,

    Add in people posting the same thing across the various “same community” on all the various instances for extra silliness.

    interdimensionalmeme,

    Yes, Lemmy is Reddit with extra steps as long as you can’t click this /c/books And see, by default, every books community , on every server at once in a single place.

    The Redditors who made it here, saw this and realized the fediverse promise, was just bait.

    shneancy,

    alternatively r/obscurefetish

    Defnottheone,

    I just started using lemmy today, so I definitely could be wrong. But doesn’t the website browse.feddit.de kind of do this for you already?

    interdimensionalmeme,

    This illustrate the fatal flaw with Lemmy.

    The fediverse is made pointless because now a community only exists on one server at a time, instead of on every server.

    It is Reddit, with extra steps

    MJBrune,

    Since lemmy instance are hit and miss. Some popular ones are already talking about shutting down or have shut down. I highly doubt lemmy will get there.

    interdimensionalmeme,

    Which is never going to happen because you can’t click this /c/books

    And fine an agglomeration of all /c/books on all lemmy servers Ina single location.

    This cripples any network effect and any benefice of decentralization and federation

    Polar,

    Bro, it’s so fucking frustrating that I need to be subbed to 5 different Android communities just to get my news.

    I can’t sub to just one because I miss news if I do.

    My only hope is that Boost brings multi-reddit support to Lemmy, so I can just click on “Android” and get the news from all 5 Android communities.

    interdimensionalmeme,

    “multi Reddit” like feature do not fix the problem.

    First, like on Reddit, less than 5% of users will use it as a non default feature which needs to be configured.

    Second, even of those people who use the feature, they will have different sets of differently configured “multireddit”.

    The end result is a fragmented audience that has no shared experience and never aglomerates to critical mass.

    If you have 1725 /c/books communities, that does not make one cohesive books community. These people have nothing in common.

    Practical end result, one books community on one Lemmy instance, is “the one big community” and almost every other gets 1 post per year on average, which is never seen by anyone.

    For every big community, every once in a while, the moderation dictators sell out or otherwise piss off the community enough that it fragments. That works as well as the current transition from Reddit to Lemmy.

    Each schism doesn’t create a new, better community, it creates a smaller, less active community at the expense of the larger one.

    There needs to be a single point of agglomeration, which works by default for any community name.

    And moderation needs to be something dive by every user and moderation needs to be a filter that you subscribe to.

    FierroGamer,

    And Linux will dethrone windows.

    I wish they were true but reality is that people will accept just about any and all abuse and stay with the crap despite sometimes getting angry about it.

    CriticalMiss,

    I deleted my Reddit account but there are some subs I greatly miss. Shame the majority of their members didn’t move over to Lemmy due to lack of care.

    set_secret,

    it really shows the percentage of selfish/spineless assholes on social medial.

    At the very least if gave us a good way to filter them off our threads I guess.

    DancingIsForbidden,
    @DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world avatar

    I lurk the Reddit’s onion site using tor and turn JavaScript off. I don’t even have an account there anymore so I can’t comment on anything. This way they don’t get any advertising dollars from me. But it’s the best way for me to keep up with what’s new and upcoming in some special fields that I’m in.

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