Catsrules,

Is this a trick question?

The obvious choice is the truck. Take the truck and sell it. And then buy a bike, car and down payment on a house.

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder which one they’re referring to?

UnverifiedAPK,

/c/ThatsTheJoke

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

Both

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

I keep finding you.

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

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RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6fe67904-e7a6-40fc-b7b2-f72c64191556.jpeg Бездната ги повика душите на грешните и душите на невините. твојата дрскост ќе биде казнета со вечни маки, чии слични само богови ги доживеале.

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

Tranalated this means The Abyss called forth the souls of the sinful and the souls of the innocent. your insolence will be punished with eternal torments, the likes of which only the gods have experienced.

In response to this

I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers! I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn’t prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him!

American_Communist22,
@American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml avatar

this is the most deranged fucking thread ever

what the fuck

sag,

Easy Choice

Yerbouti, (edited )

The thing I hate the most about my province (Quebec), the passion people have for pickup trucks. It’s a fucking obsession, and it’s a subject that cant even be discussed, the right of owning one of those is almost the first article of our constitution.

Pogbom,

Ben câlisse, comment ma apporter mon épicerie à maison sans un char d’assault?

UnrepententProcrastinator,

J’ai plus souvent rencontrer ça dans les régions. J’ai un pick-up mais par nécessité. (4 flos)

Yerbouti,

On en voit de plus en plus en ville. Les gens utilisent leur pickup pour aller à l’épicerie. Mon voisin travaille de chez lui sur un ordi et a un pickup.

bzarb8ni,

Ontarian here. I’ve been all over Canada, it’s everywhere.

branclon,

Have you been to Alberta? Lol it’s way worse

BCsven,

Driving through curvy roads in manitoba I was being passed like I was standing still by lifted trucks…way over driving their headlights

SomeAmateur, (edited )

I don’t mind passion from a hobby perspective. Some people are passionate about sports, coding, radios, plants, stamps etc. It’s okay to be passionate about cars and trucks, just don’t daily drive these if you want people to respect you. Same with stanced cars.

The problem as I see it is that these modded ones are pushed as still being practical when they are really only big toys. Have you ever noticed that jacked up trucks rarely have caps or toolboxes on the beds? The extra height takes away the utility of the bed and loading/unloading anything is a pain in the ass. They pour all this money into making their truck less useful.

I’ve driven big F-250s for work. They have a time, a place and a purpose. And that is not as a daily driver for most people.

Ookami38,

'Round here we call em pavement princess. Drive like they own the place, but never done a day’s work.

SomeAmateur,

Very accurate

VieuxQueb,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

Et je commence à voir beaucoup de “coal runner”, ou/et avec des pneus surdimensionné suspension élevé etc… Toutes des modifications illégale mais pourtant t’en vois partout. Sont-ils si riche qu’ils peuvent se payé des contraventions en continu où la police fait rien ?

Yerbouti,

J’en ai vu un sur le boulevard Pi-IX, le gars a “enfumé” une quunzaine de personnes qui attendaient l’autobus. Sérieux.

Moi aussi je me demandais comment autant de gens peuvent se payer des tanks de même, vu le prix, jusqu’à ce qu’un ami qui travaille en administration m’explique que la plupart des gens qui en ont font juste s’enregistrer une entreprise et le mette dessus. Même pas besoin de faire des vrais affaire avec ton entreprise, tu déclares des revenues négatifs et tu ramasses plein de crédits pour ton char. Bref, c’est nos impôts qui finance les gros chris de pickup du monde.

sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

The answer is “yes”. To both questions.

bdazman, (edited )

Ah yes, Big Bicycle.

A very real thing that has lobbiests and a department you have to go to. You know, the DPV, the department of pedalled vehicles, its where you are forced to do basically everything from register to vote to get a death certificate. It’s CRAZY how much influence Big Bicycle has over our society.

I mean did you know that ~40,000 americans per year are killed by traffic violence every year. I bet 99% of those are from extremely fat men riding osmium bicycles at 50 mph, running people over!

And did you know that bicycles use alchemy to create almost all of the pollution that coats our cities, adversely affecting the health of everybody who doesn’t bike?

I mean hell, can you imagine bulldozing empoverished minority neighborhoods in every city in the US for 50 years to build these federally funded 12 land elevated bike lanes that totally exist? The nerve of those cyclists advocacy groups!

Damn bicycles, who the heck do they think they are?!

Edit 01: typo

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is why I drive a small pickup truck, I’m compensating for my quite large penis.

DaBabyAteMaDingo,

I’m so sorry to hear that 😢

Can you donate half of it for people in need? I’ll gladly take on that burden for you, my friend 🧔‍♀️

FlexibleToast,

Same. I could only get the small truck and small boat.

TheDrunkard,

Can I just drive my Kia Forte without being an asshole?

bdazman,

googles kia forte

My guy that’s a car, not a land yacht.

Nobody is mad at you for having a car thats reasonably sized. You should be the most angry about these child-flattening-front-over-machines because youre the one who they’ll kill while they’re playing pokemon go on their dash television instead of looking at the road.

These assholes are destroying your roads, giving your kids asthma, and running over your friends and family. And they hate having their sociopathy pointed out.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Would it be okay if I use an electric car that does not give asthma? Serious question. Also I do not play shitty games like pokemon go.

bdazman,

Turns out most car pollution is actually from rubber tires flaking off and putting microplastics in your lungs.

This gets worse the heavier the car is, and because electric cars are heavier, theres a chance that EVS could actually be worse for particulate emmission than moderately efficient regular cars.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Would using good tyres, and maintaining them, not be a solution to that problem?

bdazman,

Wear is nonlinearly dependant on number of cycles, materials, and load. I’ve not seen anything in the litterature that indicates rubbers can maintain safety while decreasing their amount of particulate pollution. In fact, ive seen that they are a direct trade with one another.

Lighter cars being forced to drive slower, would do something about it. Also, simply restricting the number of cars in a city the same way we restricted the density of coal burning power plants in a city would also solve the problem in the exact same way.

Non-rubber materials such as steel do not have this problem, which is why trains are good.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

From evmagazine.com/…/how-much-pollution-comes-from-el…

Emissions Analytics provides various samples from its tests to give an all-round view of tyre pollution. The team has now tested more than 300 tyres on the European market, identifying 78 organic compounds and recognising 46 hazards codes. It turns out the least toxic tyre compound is 85% less polluting than the most toxic version.

I think the answer does lie in using less toxic tyres, as a starting point, something I was suspecting.

Another source says:

The International Union for Conservation of Nature pegs tires as the second leading source of microplastic pollution in oceans, and one 2017 study found a global per capita average of .81 kilograms in tire emissions per year, ranging from .23 kg per year in India to 4.7 kg (roughly 10 pounds) in the US. That may seem minor stacked up against the nearly 300 pounds in plastic waste the average American generates each year, but microplastics are tiny by definition — and an insidious source of toxins that researchers are only beginning to understand.

There is a colossal difference between India (where I live) and US, for example.

Also another article points out only large BEVs will be heavy, as usual BEVs will become similar in weight to normal fossil fuel cars by 2025.

Motorcycles produce exponentially lower pollution than cars, and cycles more or less produce none, which should be used, but cars are a need due to shitty designing of cities, and capitalist growth chasing.

bdazman,

Oh that’s excellent news. I hope this won’t be used an excuse to neither lower vehicle speeds nor improve the places that we live. I also don’t know if this will offset the doubling or tripling of the average automobile in terms of weight that is happening. Also, I fear that if these tires are even slightly less profitable to create, they will not be adopted, rendering fixation on them worse than useless.

It’s also a massive issue that some tires and asphalts are far quieter than others, which makes the people forced to live near high speed car infrastructure substantially less miserable. Noise induced stress is one of those health effects that I’m personally too anxious to read in detail about, as it scares the hell out of me. It’d be wonderful if quieter asphalt and tires were also the same kind that were less polluting, but I have learned that tech brained ideas pitched by car companies claiming to solve their massive problems rarely do.

Also, perhaps “EV magazine” has a vested interest in portraying inherent problems with automobiles as non-inherent?

I don’t want less car induced lung cancer, I want no car induced lung cancer.

Halving vehicle weights or ranges or top speeds would also nonlinearly decrease tire wear while also decreasing vehicle cost and danger to others, but here in the US none of those things are happening. Instead, every possible negative attribute is worsening, along with corresponding fluff pieces and propoganda to convince truck owners that they aren’t doing the harm that they are doing. I also feel terrified that these fluff pieces are poisoning wells of activism around the world, harming the entire human species rather than just the imperial core.

It’s true that smaller, two wheeled vehicles are drastically better for the environment, and the fact that so many cities in europe and southeast asia are able to exist with so few “cars” is a disagreement I have with your last, excellent sentence. I very much wish I posessed the intelligence to separate Private automobile ownership from Commercial automobile ownership, but I forget to most of the time. I do genuinely believe that private automobile ownership should be as rare as policy can make it, just like it is (kind of) for airplanes in the US.

Thank you for the excellent link.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I only shared the EV magazine link as I saw fair amount of neutrality. I knew this was going to come up, conflict of interest usually does become a problem, but it looks OK here on this topic.

Its all about the Pareto’s principle, no matter what it is. Find the Pareto frontier, and target it, but with proper assumptions as there can be more than 1 case targets. So that would look like, in no order:

  • an actual (and not for media optics) cutdown on speeds
  • less weight of cars without compromising safety
  • methods to hinder tyre particles from getting out at all (Tyre Collective built a device releasing next year, as these particles are electrostatic)
  • using less cars and more motorcycles
  • better and less toxic tyres
  • any tyre companies penalised, and tyre industry regulated for tyre pollution like how tailpipe pollution got regulated and successfully controlled
SwedishFool, (edited )

Well I’m 30 and I have 3, I’m really happy for everyone that doesn’t need and therefore just dont own cars, must be enormous savings per month on top of the lesser impact on the climate.

Edit: Aaaand there comes the car hate- ya’ll are talking about not imposing shit upon others, yet here you are judging me and my wife for not making it by without cars because of specific circumstances 🤷‍♂️ aight hypocrites.

nodsocket,

I also have 3, three lifted Dodge Rams.

SwedishFool,

And the point of this comment was what specifically?

bdazman,

As long as you dont drive a deathmachine through a populated city, nonconsentually transfering risk from yourself onto others, nobody ought care my friend. We all need farmers and miners and whatnot. Y’all could drive a turbo boosted afterburning steamroller with JATO assist as an emergency break for all we care, as long as its not harming others.

Most of the buddies I have who are both bike commuters and motorheads have their fun at the track or on the mountain roads. I’d take a 3000$ beat up Miata over these land yachts any day. I don’t understand the kind of people who roll coal to the whole foods parking lot in their spotless F690-compensator-edition. It seems as antisocial as it is unfun.

But thats my personal frustration you see. I can’t drive fun cars like that anymore because selfish pricks have made the roads less safe for everyone other than themselves.

Cfords,

Let’s see it in real life and I’ll judge ,Lol

FastWarfarin,
@FastWarfarin@lemmy.world avatar

I’m 24 now and don’t own a car. :)

Sigh_Bafanada,

25 and same, despite having a driver’s license for eight years

zloubida,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

34 :-)

Ser_Salty,

Same, turning 25 in a month, still no car

Primarily because I’m very fucking poor and just getting the license costs over 2000€ already

InputZero,

You know what’s funny, I recently read a CNBC business article that said auto-makers are saying consumers aren’t buying enough electric and hybrid vehicles. That supply has outpaced demand. You know what they’re not going to do, drop prices like basic economic theory says they should. According to auto-makers the problem wasn’t that they over estimated how popular their products are, the problem is the consumers not living up to their expectations. If we were good little consumers we’d just take on more debt but apparently we’re not cooperating.

Yerbouti,

So…? Do you NEED a car? I didnt had a car until 34 because I didnt need one. The only reason I got one was because I moved in a different city and kind of had no choice. But I had many many bikes.

pimeys,

39 and I don’t even have a driver’s license…

m3t00,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

girls bike or small dick energy hmm

Nikki,
@Nikki@lemmy.world avatar

girl bike please :3

psud,

They’re also called “step through frame bikes” in places where people don’t associate them with cycling in a skirt

m3t00,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

they were girl’s bike when I was a kid, 70s. I’d ride it. heck I’d put on a skirt and ride it just to piss off the dork in the monster truck

paddytokey,

Lots of manufacturers stop calling that frame shape woman’s bikes, but rather find terms like step through or low step and so on to be better suited. This frame design is a lot more accessible for people who aren’t as mobile anymore (think old people, people with hip problems, heavy people) and are also much easier to handle with tall cargo on the back, typical example would be a child seat.

For the average person, this frame design is probably preferable as there are no benefits to the typical male frame shape.

My parents think it looks odd when a guy sits on one of these, but then my parents are in their sixties :>

leross,

Since I am a father and decided to bring my kid with me on bike rides, I needed that frame. It’s just convenient to not have to Jean Claude Van Damme before each ride.

StereoTrespasser,

I bought a step through because of the child seat too. Luckily before I dropped cash on a new bike I had already discovered that there is no way to swing your leg over the bike frame when a child seat is attached.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I don’t understand why there’s even a difference? Seems like that frame design would work great for everyone?

pyrflie,

If you are over 200 lbs and not just street riding I would worry about the welds/supports, but for daily commuting there isn’t one.

TheSanSabaSongbird,

They were originally made so that a woman could ride a bicycle while wearing a dress or skirt.

noobnarski,

The disadvantage is higher weight for the same structural strength because the lower and upper tube are closer together (or combined into one tube) so the leverage is much less.

I dont mind the “mens” frame, but if other people want to use a low step frame I am not going to call them sissies or something stupid like that.

lntl,

too bad the truck doesn’t have nuts

porcupine,

Giant trucks may maximize traffic fatalities and carbon emissions, but bicycles make me feel guilty, so it’s impossible to say which is worse.

JonOst,

both stereotypes want to use the government to oppress the other instead of living and let live…i literally have and love both

bdazman,

In the US, the government dispropotionately subsidizes car ownership and punishes cheap/sustainable living with actionable threats of death at the hands of sociopathic truck owners with persecution complexes.

Facebones,

Except drivers actually do that then cry oppression over giving up a foot on the edge of the road, and outright communism if you suggest a partitioned bike lane or improved public transit.

Waggles,

Right…both of these are somehow equally bad /s

What with big bike making people more healthy and being far better for the planet 😓

fushi01,
@fushi01@lemmy.world avatar

and if a city is designed right without so many parking lot requirements, travel times become lower, people become safer, noise levels go down dramatically, you appreciate that hopefully well designed city and its businesses, much lower stress levels when commuting, and you feel calmer as well.

Mr_nutter_butter,
@Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen 4 rams around my town drivers all look the same, they’re all very clean, never seen it parked as they can’t fit it anywhere one guy did get stuck and laughed at in his big yellow truck by a lot of people last time I’ve seen him

SARGEx117,

I have an ancient tiny pickup (don’t get me started on EVs or how a van is better, I’m aware but poor and I don’t live/work in a city) and I’d say about 1-2 times a week when daily driving I’ll get mocked by someone with a giant, lifted, accent-lighted, chrome-trimmed, perfectly-unscathed monstrosity. Usually some form of homophoplbic slur to describe my vehicle choice.

I fill up for less than half the price, and I fit right next to most regular cars. I still park out in the empties because I don’t like being next to other vehicles, but I don’t have to.

Honestly I’d love an EV with a minivan size profile, truck clearance, and the enclosed rear is all cargo space. Literally all of my hobbies and work things would fit in it, and since I live on a hill in the middle of fields, I get a lot of wind and solar.

Of course, I’d love it even more if I could take a nap on a train with space for an equipment cart while I travel half an hour to work, but the next ice age will happen before passenger trains become that widespread.

Facebones,

At least yours is actually useful for something 👍

Mr_nutter_butter,
@Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world avatar

Proper working man’s pickups those unlike the new ones that have all this fancy shite that you wouldn’t want in a work vehicle

I’ve had people argue that all the fancy stuff is needed in a work vehicle

Omgpwnies,

Out of all the recent innovations in trucks, the only ones I’d really consider useful is having 120V power plugs in the bed and reversing cameras. Neither is required, but they do make things much easier.

But also, I am far more likely to assume that someone driving a Tacoma or Ranger is using it to do work than I am someone driving a ‘full size’ pickup.

TheSanSabaSongbird,

More evidence, if any was needed, that advertising works. The entire product is built on marketing a self-image to those who for whatever reason aren’t perceptive enough to see how they’ve been manipulated by the advertising industry.

I’m somewhat guilty of it myself when it comes to outdoors activities that I’m passionate about like climbing and hiking and backpacking and snowboarding. I know a lot of it is overpriced bullshit that I don’t actually need, but sometimes I’m like “here, just take my money, I must have that fancy new piece of gear or equipment!” At least I’m aware of it though.

captainlezbian,

Nobody’s mad at someone using a reasonably sized pickup when they need the functionality. The goal is the least polluting vehicle you can reasonably get for your use case.

drktrts,

i feel like if we applied this logic to most things, the world would be a better place…

LucyLastic,

A Nissan e-NV200 is what you want … I’m in Spain, there’s a few about. They’re basic work vans, good amount of space in them, easily fixable, etc.

WhaleScenery,

Also make superb camper vans if you aren’t too mad about the 150 mile range!

Tar_alcaran,

That seems great for the “we go from fancy campground to fancy campground and stay for half a week” crowd, but most camper van owners are not in that group, right?

youstolemyname,

The Nissan e-NV200 was expected to be available by 2017 for the NYC Taxi of Tomorrow fleet.[93] However, structural changes would be required to bring the e-NV200 into compliance with US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards,[94] and the van never was released to the US market.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_NV200

LucyLastic,

Makes sense, European crash testing looks for different things and the e-NV200 was only ever passed as a commercial vehicle here so you couldn’t use one as a taxi.

They are well handy, it’s a shame.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Looks like GM rebadged it was a Chevy Express in 2014 and discontinued it in 2017.

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