I wouldn’t say either are ruined. They just attract some fucked up people. I don’t think any media should be judged based on what kind of person obsesses with it and how they express that obsession.
With those two, you can even laugh knowing the people who make/made those shows don’t think highly of those fans.
I got that sense from the new Star Wars trilogy, too, especially ep 7 where Kylo is an obsessive Darth Vader fan who wore a helmet for no reason and wasn’t nearly as effective as his hero was (he loses a lightsaber duel to someone who hadn’t ever used a lightsaber before and his most destructive action in that movie is throwing a temper tantrum and destroying one of his own rooms).
Oh yeah. I did not hang out in Star Trek groups for many years despite being a fan - I didn’t near to hear a million times why Enterprise sucked or Discovery sucks or whatever. I enjoyed both and don’t need to listen to someone screeching about continuity errors or whatever in a fictional TV show.
And they can’t help themselves, more than once I’ve made a comment like this only to have someone reply, “Well, Discovery sucks because blah blah blah!”, and it’s like, “THANKS FOR DEMONSTRATING THE POINT I WAS MAKING. YOU’RE THE PROBLEM. YOU.”
No one hates Star Trek more than Star Trek fans.
I joined a group on facebook that is called “Wholesomeposting” and that kind of shit is not allowed. It’s much nicer that way. The noise level on Lemmy hasn’t been too bad, fortunately…so far.
I love comedy podcasts, The Jeselnek and Rosenthal Vanity Project, a favourite. His style is dark humour and it seems that a significant proportion of the audience actually believe some of the things he jokes about. I think it’s one of the reasons they rarely field audience questions and never phone calls.
Comedy can be a minefield for this type of stuff. I’m a big fan of the comedians that can dance around the edge, or seem to cross it and then bring the audience back, eg: Mark Normand, Bill Burr, Jimmy Carr, a lot of the old Norm MacDonald stuff, etc.
But I’ll see some fan compilations with titles or comments that make it clear that they don’t get the style of humor… Like “[comedian] DESTROYS feminists!!1!”
When, to anyone with a reasonable level of social intelligence, it’s abundantly clear that that’s not what’s happening.
Ruby was the first programming language I learned and it was such a great entry point into learning for me.
Now I mainly am using JS in some form (MERN Stack guy), but it did help me learn Python which I use for lots of scraping and even some IoT prog with MicroPython.
All of this just to say, Ruby is a fine language. I don’t know much about PERL though
Ruby is really cool, and it’s fun to write, I just find it difficult to follow because when I read Rails code there’s so much magic going on and the inheritance structure makes it hard to find things.
I relate to the philosophy of Python “explicit is better than implicit”, it’s my favourite language.
I’ve come around to liking JS, I like the ideas of its design despite the quirks.
<span style="color:#323232;">/* This works because there's a bean with a specific name and a
</span><span style="color:#323232;">specific dependency that doesn't even share the same namespace.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I don't know what it does, I think it's dark magic.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Don't refactor any of this! */
</span>
I like the look of the cybertruck for sure. But I’m not a fan of how it is constructed, or Musk. Be sweet to see some better cars with similarly retro futuristic looks.
I also liked Valerian, but more for the world building than the main plot.
i also unironically like ios and mac and i feel your pain. the apple “community” online is probably the biggest example of people not understanding that you can criticize the shortcomings of a product you paid for
I’ll be the first guy to in detail list all crappy things about macOS. But it’s my favourite OS, and I’m happy with it.
I don’t like the vapid criticisms that it’s a toy and can’t do anything from peine who’ve never tried it, and I agree with the criticisms that Apple charges way too much and is awful for gaming.
Yeah, like where did all the fun go with discussing marvel? Did it die with endgame?
I want to conjecture with people about where they are going to go with their current phase. Who will be the new front runner character?
While I enjoy Tom Holland, I don’t believe he can fill the charisma vacuum left by Downey.
How are the x-men going to be brought into the fold?
Fun fact: I’m much more of DC fan, but marvel captured a generation and they have the spotlight for now.
I’m really hoping DC takes a more mature darker route like The Boys, but without just remaking Injustice as R movie.
Give me dark brutal Batman, make Thanos look like child’s play next to DarkSeid. Supes needs a movie centered around a problem he can’t just punch away
I just got to say, seeing Batffleck brutalizing criminals was something I didn’t know I wanted to see and was a breath of fresh air even if the movie wasn’t great. I do think DC should embrace darker movies but with Gun at the helm, I’m hoping he goes less campy than with Peacemaker or GotG.
Hmm, what’s something I really like that gets shit on all the time? Open-world games with question marks all over the map is a big one. I like checking off points of interest, but it’s reviled by many, and I can understand why. I also hate Soulslike games even though they seem to be super popular.
Oh ffs. For me it was the 40K fans. The grand majority is completely fine. But there are still these mouth breathing, bitter, gatekeeping neckbeards who loose their mind the moment something goes against…well they loose their mind all the time. No real reason to it. At least the mods tried to contain the worst offenders. Who would have thought a setting filled with hate and xenophobia attracts hate filled racists?
The Metal Gear Solid fanbase is probably the one of the few respectful and wholesome gaming fanbase I have seen. While most male gamers are drooling and oogling their eyes on any sexualised female characters, MGS fans question and reject the scantily clad female character in Metal Gear Solid V and always meme about this woman being fully clothed.
Ah yeah, I don’t think the community ever bought that one, since (for context for those that don’t know MGS) this was after MGS3 that had The End, an old man that also breathed through his skin, and he was clothed.
I used to be active on /r/mma which was actually a decent sub with good moderation, but there was also /r/ufc which was just awful.
A place for teenagers to post dogshit takes and say shit like “I can’t wait to see X fighter get knocked out”. They treat it like WWE, wanting it to be a dramatic story and not the competitive sport that it is.
Firefly. Only because I’ve never met anyone that wasn’t someone I had to introduce to it. Let alone the comics, novels, board/card games, etc.
But for real, if I ever got anyone enough of a base around me becoming such fans as I; I would also happen to have enough of the old school Mage:tAs books to equate Technocracy with the Alliance and equate the Trads to Pirates.
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