Zeshade, In the meantime to “take advantage of Brexit” it will be possible to sell wine by the pint… A push to go back to the imperial system was axed though. Maybe brexiters should move to the US if they like the imperial system so much.
HowManyNimons, Yeah, how long do you think Jake Mogg would last in the USA?
cashews_best_nut, Any excuse to take the piss out of the Yanks is fine by me.
15liam20, They usually give it away.
bouh, Are they actually using metric though? Last time I was in London airport I wasn’t so sure.
trafficnab, When you ask a British person how much they weigh and they start talking about rocks
someguy3, Is that an imperial rock or a metric rock?
linux2647, Imperial boulders
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot, A large boulder the size of a small boulder.
HopFlop, … is completely blocking east-bound lane Highway 145 mm78 at Silverpark Rd. Please use caution and watch for emergency vehicles in that area.
xor, Depends what you’re measuring. Also our imperial units are slightly different, and lots have variations depending on what’s being measured.
Get britished
trafficnab, It’s less of an imperial system, and more of an imperial suggestion
HowManyNimons, At least our pints are bigger.
hiramfromthechi, Literally no reason not to use metric, idc who or where you are
5redie8, Please explain to me why I should use metric when:
- My car uses imperial
- the weather channels use imperial
- the news networks use imperial
- My entire country, which takes up about half a continent, ALL JUST USES IMPERIAL
???
defame, The question isn’t why you should use it, but rather why all these things you’ve listed are still using it.
We all know that transition isn’t easy, but being proud of using the inferior system is weird.
5redie8, My point is that if I give someone directions in meters they’re going to look at me like I have two heads, it’s literally like speaking two different languages.
ThatWeirdGuy1001, The funny part is we switch to metric when it’s science
GreyEyedGhost, But only sometimes. Other times, interplanetary probes disappear.
aeronmelon, They made fun of that on For All Mankind. An incident on Mars because Russia and America were doing calculations using different systems and someone forgot to convert.
TheBat, That’s based on real incident though
5redie8, And computer temperatures lol
Imgonnatrythis, Literally no reason not to drive on the right side of the street as well but maybe it does matter where you are.
SkippingRelax, While I don’t disagree with that, that’s just a convention. Metric is inherently superior, solves issues that other systems have and is used by, well basically the whole world.
wsweg, (edited ) There is a reason. When you grow up with people around you using imperial units to describe things, you think in terms of it. If you tell me 10 ft., I can picture that in my head, I have an idea of how much that is in real terms. If you tell me 10m, I have no mental idea of how much that is, even if I can convert it. It’s like a language you grow up speaking, versus one you learn later in life.
I do think metric the sole system used in schools, to be honest.
MrScottyTay, The good thing with metric though is it’s easier to visualise other measurements once you know one of them, cause you just know that each other measurement is just a multiple or division of the one you know. Like if you know roughly how long a centimetre is then you can take a good estimate of how long a meter is knowing that it’s 100cm
wsweg, Did you grow up using metric?
MrScottyTay, It was much more mixed when i was in primary school but by the time I left secondary school it was fully metric. It might’ve fully changed before I noticed though just cause I was little and parents and grandparents would still be using imperial. I do remember having to learn imperial in school though.
wsweg, I mean, yeah, I’m not arguing that imperial is a better system. Metric is superior, absolutely. I’m just arguing against the statement that there’s no reason to use it.
abbotsbury, That’s true, but it’s also a double edged sword: you can easily learn metric just by switching to it.
Try setting a weather widget on your phone to only show you Celsius and don’t convert it to Fahrenheit, over time you will get an intuitive understanding of what feels cold to you.
The biggest block to learning a new system is insulating yourself with conversions IMO, imagine trying to learn a new language by just having everyone speak into Google translate
bouh, I’m doing the slow switch with decimal time. It works!
wsweg, That’s a good idea that I think I will try out. To be honest, I have a pretty hard time visualizing distance, even with imperial, so sadly I don’t think that help will help me in that area.
wsweg, It’s weird, because small units I think about it cm, not imperial.
trafficnab, I’m the same actually, I’m probably more likely to say 1cm than half an inch
wsweg, Millimeters as well for you? It’s probably because having to use fractions is so much less intuitive.
trafficnab, Millimeters especially, no way am I saying like “1/24th of an inch”
trafficnab, I’m fluent in metric but I can’t think in anything but imperial, I’m merely converting in my head on the fly
GreyEyedGhost, Yep, that’s my life, pretty much. OTOH, my kids don’t have to live under the curse of arbitrary units of measurement and only have a vague idea of what a foot is.
someguy3, Plenty of people in Canada had no trouble switching back when we did.
BradleyUffner, (edited ) Truly the long game on that joke! Well done, ya got us.
MadBob, Are there really Britons doing this? I lived there from birth until just shy of my 30th and I’ve never witnessed it. I’ve seen plenty of people make fun of Americans for getting the British flag wrong, though, I’m suddenly reminded.
Skipper_the_Eyechild, No, not at all. My best guess is that the OP is confused with mainland Europe, who actually do use metric a lot more… the UK uses a mix of imperial and metric.
_Sprite, no backsies
rivermonster, This post was a great laugh, I’m thankful for you OP!
Peppycito,
MindSkipperBro12, This but unironically.
captainlezbian, True we don’t deserve better measurements
Peppycito, I’m on team inch. I think the metric system has been pushed by Big Socket to sell more wrenches. If they made a meter equal a yard we could be bilingual and use the most appropriate system for the job.
SkippingRelax, (edited ) Wtf is a yard?
Anyway sure we can make a meter equal a yard, that would be exactly 100cm
TimewornTraveler, 3 feet
SkippingRelax, How many armpits?
GreyEyedGhost, Then we could have two systems with stupid scientific formulas!
CrayonRosary, Don’t forget big nut!
HopFlop, Lmao
Piogre314, Wait til you find out who taught America the word “soccer”.
ForgotAboutDre, Soccer was an abbreviation used by posh people. Associate football -> sociate -> soccer. Much like rugby is called ruggers by the same group of people today. It was an informal term.
Association football was popular amongst the working class in the UK, who didn’t use the same types of abbreviations. So it wasn’t referred to as soccer by the them. When radio/TV became common the presenters wouldn’t use abbreviations like soccer and so it was referred to as Association Football or Football.
In the US the posh abbreviation took over, likely because many British travellers to the US would be posh and not working class. At least the ones traveling for leisure and taking part in sports activities. Working class would mostly be immigrants and wouldn’t be brushing shoulders with those in sports media.
American call the rugby like sport, American Football because it is played on foot and not horse. It would also share a common ancestry of completely moving a ball from one place to another on foot, like football and rugby.
Zagorath, Britain hardly had a leg to stand on. They got stuck halfway through making the switch. Still use miles in their cars, feet for height, etc.
hactar42, Don’t forget about stones for body weight
WhatAmLemmy, I fucking love the psychotic concept of using “stone” as a measurement, even though a real stone can weight anywhere from milligrams to … thousands of tonnes?
It’s like saying you weigh 7 water.
ForgotAboutDre, (edited ) Or you are 6 feet tall.
ForgotAboutDre, It’s old people. They vote and don’t like change.
Everyone in the UK under 40 never used imperial in their education, but everything is still imperial.
Even stuff that’s not supposed to be. Milk is sold in pints but labelled in ml. Sometimes it’s litres because these are smaller. Timbre is all sold in a metric equivalent, but it isn’t consistent. You don’t know if the piece you’ve had delivered is 2.4m or 2.44m. Rulers have both metric and imperial, unless you pay extra for a single system - which makes them harder to use.
The worst thing is recipes, many recipes are imperial online because of the USA. American imperial measurements aren’t the same as UK ones.
It is all driven by ignorance. The royal family (TV show) summed this ignorance up best. They complained it took them longer to get to the destination because their sat nav was in kilometres and there’s more kilometres than miles so everything is further away.
MisterFrog, This sounds worse than just using imperial
ForgotAboutDre, It’s better. Because metric is still an option, but it’s not as good as it could be.
If the English speaking world fully committed to metric DIY, maker stuff and cooking online would be much better. But I’d much rather this than a fully imperial system. It much easier to work in metric and convert between than work in imperial. Imperial requires a lot more knowledge of the measurement system your working with than metric does. Because everything scales in metric the same and you can use exponentials or prefixes to express sizes. Though the US imperial system does simplify this system by using pounds for everything rather than stones.
It is surprising that the US still clings to imperial measurement despite being the first Anglosphere country to adopt metric/decimal currency. Along with the metric system being associated with liberty and enlightenment that was a big part of the philosophy behind the start of the US.
When it comes down to, in the UK and the US both imperial systems are quantified by metric standards. So it’s purely a mirage, because all reference lead back to metric measurements. Not brass yardsticks installed in the town centre. Imperial is now just a middle man maintained for nostalgia. The cost to switching is every decreasing as all series industry uses metric.
Holyhandgrenade, I’m European but I have a set of US cups in my kitchen because most recipes are in these stupid American measurements.
hark, Why not just convert the units?
Holyhandgrenade, Because it’s an annoying extra step I need to take. Also volumetric units are less accurate and don’t convert to well into metric.
brbposting,
SkippingRelax, (edited ) Most American recipes; just look for something specific to your country.
Those recipes are gross anyway. Homemade nanna secret cake calls for a box of your favourite cake mix from the supermarket.
I found recipes for soups that list fucking tins of soups in the ingredients. Like you make soup using a can of already made soup?!
I tend to add “grams” to my searches if I’m looking for something in English.
oce, Also tones of butter, sugar and their biscuits are soft.
ForgotAboutDre, I avoid volumetric measurement whenever I can. I’ve found weight based measurement to be vastly superior, especially when you have a 0.1g digital scale. It’s much easier to weight 100g of water than check the line on 100ml.
Holyhandgrenade, Yeah grams are way more accurate and I always prefer to weigh, especially when it comes to stuff like coffee.
Enk1, We use US Standard, not Imperial. Americans took Imperial and changed the measurements but kept the names, because “fuck you, Britain” but “fuck you even more, everyone else!”
Fal, Americans took Imperial and changed the measurements but kept the names,
Not accurate. Imperial and US customary were designed side by side. They share a common history en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_units but US did not come from imperial
p1mrx, It’s generally good to use feet for height. When I use butt for height I’m like a meter shorter.
someguy3, FYI: The US doesn’t use Imperial, they use US Customary. Volumes are different. Troy weights are usually called Troy (ounces).
platypus_plumba, Is that supposed to be better?
someguy3, Just more confusing!
ForgotAboutDre, No it’s worse, because they use the same names for different volumes and weights.
hughesdikus, A standard which is a “newer” version of an old standard, when a new objectively better standard already exists to replace it.
You tell me.
bouh, It’s like standard in computers. It’s not meant to be better, it’s meant to imprison the user with the company tools.
hughesdikus, Except a country doesnt need anything like that. What is the US afraid of? That its people will suddenly move to Zimbabwe and be happy?
If there was a genuine benefit to having different standards than rest of the world, then just like wars, more countries would be having them
US has had millions, if not billions of dollars of losses due to this madness and has itself tried switching to metric system.
The fact the imperial system itself is now based on the metric system tells you enough
hemko, Well it depends. Open standards are created to hopefully catch on by multiple manufacturers and make the interoperability better to make it easier for both consumers and manufacturers.
Proprietary standards are just simply to lock you into their ecosystem.
Mr_Blott, To be fair - makes fun of them for being the only one that still uses it
sunbrrnslapper, Myanmar and Liberia also use it!
pearsaltchocolatebar, Really? 'Cause you never think of those other two as having their shit together.
brbposting,
Kusimulkku, I think even Myanmar is moving away from the old units and to metric en.wikipedia.org/…/Myanmar_units_of_measurement#A…
sunbrrnslapper, There is another Wikipedia article that says they are still making the move as of 2023 and that the us has an official policy to adopt it. 🤷
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