pseudo,
@pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

Where are you from OP? It pretty standard in France as well and some people here call it “open the window italien-style”.

Spoilt,

Qui dit ça ?

C’est un oscillo-battant, rien d’autre 👀

pseudo,
@pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

La première fois que je l’ai entendu ça m’a aussi étonné et je ne sais pas si beaucoup de gens le disent. Moi j’entends surtout "ouvrir la fenêtre par le haut. Et oscillo-batant sur les fiches de description de produit.

Spoilt,

Et tu connais l’espagnolette ? Promis, c’est SFW

pseudo,
@pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

J’en ai à mes volets. Je me demande si c’est commun en Espagne.

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Même ça, moi je me rappelle juste d’appeler ça une fenêtre battante.

Spoilt,

Fenêtre 💪

victorz,

We have these in Sweden as well. But it’s not the same as in the picture. Handle to the right opens only the top edge. Fully up is the entire window.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

There are different models, brush.

ExfilBravo,

does he have bad breath or something?

dufkm,

Doesn’t matter, everyone should brush, at least 2 times a day. And don’t forget to floss!

raynethackery,

Cries in can’t afford implants.

victorz,

That’s kind of what I’m saying?

sukhmel,

Seems like a strange decision by the manufacturer who did it second. Or maybe it was a way to not pay for a patent

victorz,

It makes more sense to me the way ours is, first mode is only top. Most of the time you just want to air out the room with some fresh air, not open completely and have to remove all your plants and lamps or whatever might be in the way.

sukhmel,

I second the point about using mostly top mode. There’s a small upside to having it the second mode because that way a handle better aligns with force application vector. But yes, makes sense to make it a first mode, too

victorz,

that way a handle better aligns with force application vector

While that’s true, it really doesn’t take much strength. It only adds a few cm to the application anyway. So it definitely doesn’t tip the scale in its favor, over the convenience of being first mode. 😊

doingless,

When Germans start feeling power, the world buys more weapons and ammunition.

Jumi,

Who needs power when you can kipp your Fenster?

Sylvartas,

Forget this gimmick, the real yuropean superiority is in proper blinds that are actually designed to block most light. For some reason they are extremely uncommon in north America

theangryseal,

I just want something my cat can’t destroy, is that too much to ask?

taanegl,

Yes.

chiliedogg,

That line of thought is the first step towards making cats more destructive.

GreatCornolio,

But think of the curtains industry! We must protect it

-Some congressional committee, circa 2029

supercriticalcheese,

Xommon in central and southern Europe, not sure about northern. They are mostly there to limit sunlight in the summer where the house would be baked otherwise.

Sylvartas,

They’re all over the place in France and Germany. Also saw them a lot in Greece but I didn’t visit that many places here tbh

supercriticalcheese,

Yes Greece and Italy definitely very common.

creamed_eels,

Those are made by the same people who make American bathroom stall doors

meowMix2525, (edited )

I’m going to go absolutely bonkers if I have to deal with one more set of cordless blinds that refuse to lift back up after you pull them down. The unshielded street light that exists only to ensure that I can see my car from my window at night, and shines not only through the cheap pvc but between the slats directly into my retinas, lighting my entire room at least 10 lumens brighter when there’s a layer of snow on the ground, is already wearing my sanity quite thin on its own, and I’m not even on the floor that catches the most light from it.

fadingembers,
@fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Please, for your sanity, buy some blackout curtains

CoffeeJunkie,

Oh, for their sanity…and it sounds like they’re in an environment with cold temps that have snow…blackout curtains will also help with keeping out the cold, keeping heat in. Save on utilities.

meowMix2525, (edited )

I don’t want blackout curtains. I like to let some light in the morning and during the day without sacrificing privacy in the early evening if I forget to close them. I also don’t like the thick unwieldy material of blackout curtains. Whoever put the stupid street lights out should have to be more considerate of the light pollution they create 😂

NaoPb,

Fair point about the light pollution. In my town they’ve been replacing the street lights with LED versions and it seems the beams are now more concentrated and lighting the street instead of everything in the proximity.

I hope a change like this may happen to your street in the future.

aesthelete, (edited )

Have you thought about installing a blackout cellular shade instead? I bought a shade for this room I’m sitting in that’s basically two shades in one: it has a shade that lets in light and one that blacks everything out. If you want daylight, you pull the one shade down, if you want darkness you put that shade fully up, and if you want access to the window you put them both up.

It was IMO pretty affordable. I think the one I bought was around $300, and I have pretty large windows.

Here's what they look like if you're interestedhttps://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/45ca4d13-ffe1-48c3-a642-819ed22901c0.png

meowMix2525,

I actually always wanted those since I saw them in my aunt’s home but my mom never wanted to pay for them. Then I went to university and lived in various student accommodations. And now that school is done, my next move is in June and I’m actually going to Germany lol.

I’m mostly just lamenting that the american standard is such hot garbage that barely accomplishes what it is designed to do.

aesthelete,

Ah gotcha, every apartment I’ve ever been in and my condo up until I installed these shades had crappy, plastic Venetian blinds that were basically pointless for blocking light…so I agree 100%.

Sylvartas,

My dad is a light sleeper and when he has to attend a conference in the US he literally has to bring a sleeping mask to ensure he will be able to sleep properly

darkpanda,

I have these windows. Perhaps not coincidentally the house was made by a German. The windows were fabricated in Canada though. The technology is leaking.

buzz,
@buzz@lemmy.world avatar

They have it in US. U can order them. Couldn’t find them in home depot or Lowes.

grendel,
@grendel@lemmy.world avatar

What if I told you there’s a third way you can open this window?

XTornado,

Go on…

drathvedro,

You can turn the handle into horizontal position, open the window, then turn the handle all the way up , and it will fall a little forward, like both modes combined, and seemingly hanging on just the bottom hinge (it’s not, there’s just a retracting bar at the top hinge).

You can also usually lock the second mode mid-way by jamming the handle at 3/4 position.

RainyRat,

I’ve lived in a house with these windows for the last 15 years, and didn’t know this.

Ziglin,

I think you’re using them wrong.

vojel,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

And stoßlüft everyday at least twice. We love fresh air!

Railing5132,

Translate says thats: “shock ventilation”. What’s that mean?

Dyskolos,

It’s when you open all windows for a short time to let a gust of wind rush through the house to refresh the stale air. No shock, just quick 😊

Railing5132,

Ah, thanks :)

vojel,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I prefer shock ventilation now, sounds so cool!

Dyskolos,

Sounds like a war manover 😁

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wait until they find out our windows have a 4th setting as well 😎

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The fourth is where you accidentally put the handle diagonally and all hinges unlock except one bottom corner.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah, I came here to ask if the window falls out if you accidentally turn the handle while it’s open from the 2 to the 3.

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

it can happen with old windows but new windows generally have a way to prevent that

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

No it has a ventilation mode at 45 degrees.

ErrorCode,

I really liked those windows when I was visiting Europe.

Officer_Pickles,

We have them in the UK as well. Makes a very useful fire escape.

moon,

Actually inferior to sliding windows. Europeans have a lot of things over NA, but this ain’t it.

crusty,

How are sliding windows better? Also, are you able to clean the outside of the window from the inside?

Bruncvik,
@Bruncvik@lemmy.world avatar

Love those windows when travelling, but I have yet to see windows that open to the inside here in Ireland. Not sure whether it’s one of those crazy building regulations like no power switch or outlet inside the bathroom or auto-closing inner doors to each room.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, limited opportunity to use them. It’s the weather man… ;)

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I discovered these windows in Netherlands and Germany. I love it. Blew my mind.

Senshi,

I’m confused as well. How do you open windows in non-Europe?

jesuiscequejesuis, (edited )

Generally, like this: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/11e02e4e-c45f-4d45-a221-1d457abe31ec.jpegThe two middle ones are the most common I see. I have one casement window in my house, but it just opens in one way, like in this image.

synapse1278,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

In france, we call the second one “guillotine”

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Never once in my life seen those anywhere in Europe.

sukhmel,

I saw something akin to the second one in Spain, they don’t have a good reputation for holding against cold there

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Bah, the Spaniards are easily invaded, it’s the Russians we need to worry about!

IronKrill,

Canadian here, the most common I see is sliding horizontally. Our house has horizontal as well.

Buddahriffic,

Also Canadian, I’ve had horizontal sliding, single hung, and casement with that turning mechanism to open/close them. And I remember seeing windows that were hinged at the top and pushed outwards in high school. Not sure what held them open though.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

What is this door latch sorcery? How does it work?

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar
agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Woah. 🤯 that is crazy cool. I feel like I’ve been visited by time travelers from the future.

Spendrill,

Brit here, all the windows in my flat have this system.

TheProtagonist,

Klaus Fuchs gave them to you!

lugal,

Traitor!

DaCookeyMonsta,

Must be a pre-Brexit window.

Spendrill,

You know it.

SubArcticTundra, (edited )
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Glad they’re gone

Edit: -6 votes? 😅 Geez Lemmy is even faster at jumping to conclusions than Reddit!

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

The Brits?

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

No, those new-fangled bureaucratic politically-correct continental windows from the EU.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

…this is a joke right?

SubArcticTundra, (edited )
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes duuh

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly I don’t know with any of you people anymore.

Valar_Morghulis,
@Valar_Morghulis@jlai.lu avatar

Please tell me you guys know about double (or now triple) glazing? right?

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Are we talking about donuts here?

frezik,

Double paned windows are basically standard.

I looked at getting trippled paned windows a while back, and the benefits were marginal compared to double paned from the same company. It seems that once you’re already in the higher end of the market, they don’t do much over good double paned.

chrizzowski,

Yes, but also no. There are a bunch of other factors that contribute to a windows performance; manufacturer, type of gas used in the cavity, spacer material conductivity, thermal bridge free frame design, low e coatings and solar reflectance, and the quality of the installation matters most. Then there’s the windows efficiency relative to the rest of the assembly. If it’s a building code basic 2x4 wall from 1970 then you’re absolutely right, it would be overkill putting some triple pane krypton filled window in. But if you’ve got a foot of exterior insulation and are pushing a u value of 0.13 on your wall assembly then you need windows to match.

Source: certified Passive House designer, the most demanding energy standard for buildings available, that originated in … yup you guessed it, Germany.

frezik,

I have a relatively new house (built 2006). I came to the conclusion that the extra money spent on triple paned windows would be more effectively spent on improvements elsewhere. Like a heat pump or hybrid water heater.

In the end, we weren’t able to swing the windows at all, but did replace our crappy doors.

chrizzowski,

Sadly code minimums for newer builds haven’t really changed drastically in decades. It’s all just 2x6 with batt and poly, fundamentals the same as it has been since the 1970s. My 2019 build just had the shower lines freeze because they’re against an exterior wall (-30 cold snap, but still).

You’re probably right though that a heat pump is a better investment. Redoing the entire building envelope is a big ask if it’s not deteriorating and needing work anyway.

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