I originally posted this on the other site back when I took the picture, and it resulted in a lot of confused comments, especially from Americans, eventually getting removed by overzealous mods. Either way, I promise you that this date does not exist, and has never existed.
I’m so tired of this “proper order” date debate among regions. Can’t we just accept that there can be more than one correct way to do things?
We commonly write dates 02/29/23 because we speak or write “February 29th 2023” while in other languages, it’s customary to speak or write “29th of February 2023” leading them to the common format 29/02/23.
Edit: to curb the ISO standard comments, yes, that is the most efficient and organized way to write a date, but how many of you speak dates in ISO format? If you don’t commonly say “2023 February 29th” out loud, then you intrinsically understand that not all situations call for the ISO standard.
The ISO is an organization trying to get everyone on the same page, they are the accepted standard globally. If you see ISO and you go against it, you better have a damn good reason and you’ll be liable everytime.
When was the last time you spoke a date in ISO format? Do you say “2023 February 29th?” If not, you intrinsically know ISO is not always the best format for the situation.
It’s about the correct standard, which if exists, should be the same whether spoken or written. I’m saying that no such standard exists, and there are different correct ways depending on the situation/region.
The comment I was originally replying to was talking about the two most debated formats while ignoring ISO for “non-technical” people. Those two formats are that way because of the way people most commonly speak it in the region where they originated. I agree that the best written format is ISO, but it’s not commonly used outside of technical circles because it requires that you say it in a different order than you read it, which proves difficult for a lot of people.
The reason why it’s superior is (mostly) just because it removes that ambiguity of whether your region lists months or days first. By using a global standard you are still able to prefer whatever method of speaking it, but especially in situations around health and safety the less chance for confusion the better.
Like, the whole “flammable” vs “inflammable” label is another problem if someone incorrectly assumes inflammable is the equivalent of non-flammable.
I am familiar with the ISO format and use it every day. But let me ask you, do you speak dates in ISO format? If not, then you understand it isn’t always the best format for the situation.
When was the last time you spoke dates to anyone in ISO? If you don’t ever say the year before the month and day, then you intrinsically know ISO is not always the best format for the situation.
It happens a few times a month, when dealing with something important to make sure people understand, same reason as to why I sometimes say times in a 24h format.
you actually think you’ll be able to convince anyone even remotely stupid or stubborn to use this? you must have never tried anything like this before then…
I’m not implying you can’t say “of” in English, but it’s common (and shorter) to say “Feb 29th.” It is not however correct to say “Feb 29th” in many other languages, which is why Europe made day first dates the regional standard. And just like with the imperial vs metric systems, England has shifted to more often use Europe’s standard rather than the one they came up with themselves.
Are you trolling or just incapable of acknowledging that you can speak a date differently than its written representation? The entire reason for any standard is just to ensure you’re working within a known/consistent framework. You can measure in imperial or metric but you can’t label an imperial or metric unit as the opposite just because you prefer it that way.
If I hand you glass of milk with a skull and crossbones sticker on it why would you assume it’s harmful when in my region it’s used to signify its high calcium content? I can say “poison” or I can say “milk”, but a skull should never be interchangeably used.
In the same way, a date written in a global standard format should always be immediately recognized as signifying ONE particular date, and you’re then free to localize it however you please.
Sorry, but are you certain that number is both a date and the day it expires?
It could instead be a cash register code (perhaps a specific combination of ingredients), or the employee number for who made it (because Janet keeps fucking up, and Darma is sick of being blamed.)
Yes I am certain, I know how expiry dates are written on bread in Sweden, I lived there. This was also said on my last post, but I promise you, it’s just an error and should have said March 1st.
You weren’t sent the last memo, in 2500 we’ll finally replace the current, broken time system with an evolution of Swatch’s Internet Time. Days are divided in 1000 tiny parts, and years are also adjusted. A 2501 years has 50 months, except for leap years that now have 60 months
These numbers are put on by grocery clerks with a price-gun. All they did was add on however many days the product is supposed to last after it got put on the shelf. So it’s really just some grocery worker not worrying about a date not existing. I woulda done the same thing if I was stocking these tbh.
Swede here. Those labels are from the producer. It’s easier to just use the same bags and then add the expiration date on a separate labels than to print the expiration date on the bags themselves.
That way if you make same same bread on the same date but one batch gets frozen and the other gets sent out fresh you just use the same bags but they get different labels with different exparation dates depending if they are frozen or fresh.
What? This makes so little sense I don’t even know how to proceed. It’s an expiration date.
Source: I’m also Swedish like OP and frequently shop at ICA - the biggest supermarket chain we’ve got, who also have their own line of products which are baked/cooked/prepared and packaged centrally and sent out to ICA stores all over the country. Those bagels are one of those products.
Woah woah woah. You are completely right on almost all parts of your comment, but I will not stand idly by as you call me Swedish. I’m a danskjävla who just happened to live in Sweden.
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